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[SPEC] Eva as the subject of a KenKon experiment
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Jediwannabe
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 		[SPEC] Eva as the subject of a KenKon experiment
Is she just a lab rat for the effects of Youshi?
Copied and pasted from another thread just to tidy it up a bit for discussion.
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The parent company of Youshi have a primary goal, which involves enhancing the abilities of humans on some genetic level, or as the website puts it, "Bacterial/microbic augmentation of human abilities."

Immediately after consuming Youshi, a microbiotic health supplement, manufactured by KenKon, Eva declines into a deep depression coupled with paranoia that she is being watched.

Upon receiving Voiphe, Eva's sudden emotional rush causes all the electrics in the flat to short out. Her foot heals faster than it normally should, and she also starts to see things.... things that are really manifesting themselves as actual objects, as we can see from her most recent videos.

Her acute memory loss continues - she is losing portions of time, and has problems with remembering past details - although this seems to span back to well before the Youshi, so it is probably a part of some other factor.

Eva is indeed being watched, as she suspected. It appears to be part of the Subject180287 project.

KenKon represents a worldwide network of research institutes dedicated to the advancement of human resources. If we take the diagram from the Yuki puzzle to be an organisational chart of some sort, then it would indicate that the SRI and Youkin are both a part of this network.

Putting all this together, I can only assume that SRI's goal all along, was to test and observe the effects of Youshi on a subject. Still with me so far?

What would be the best way to get a subject to consume Yushi, and to observe it's effects? Firstly, you would immobilise the subject so that you can keep them contained and under constant surveillance.

Eva gets knocked out - her foot is broken to kill her mobility. Meanwhile, you rig her webcam to broadcast a live feed constantly, so you can observe from a remote location. We know this is happening because of the core videos that keep cropping up.

Next, you set the subject a fake project - investigate Youshi - you send them the product as part of the deal, which ensures that they consume it. Then all you have to do is sit back and watch. The actual task you set the subject isn't important, so don't worry that they don't finish it on time - it is, as Brian Wilson points out, a "means to an end".

The only part I can't figure out is the memory loss, and why they were tracking her purchases. So far everything else ties up apart from that. I had also wondered if Psivolution was another of KenKon's institutes, but the organisation chart suggests there is a more direct connection between them and Subject180287.

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 		i think this fits with your reasoning jedi or at any rate the thought was spawned by your excellent post. What if the computer is our side meaning Eva's side. What if as a result of kenkon/ Sri's experients in creating binary self replicating organisms actually unintententionally created a sentience manifest in the subject website that is working both sides of the fence as it were and sending us video to alert us what is happening to eva

alternatively kier is getting us the information. Either way this is not information that SRI/Kenkon would want us to see
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 		Very nice spec! It looks really likely to me, and it all makes sense. Also, if you're right, then Keir is an outside entity (as is TimeHole).

The purchase tracking, as you stated, is still puzzling. Hm...
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 		Jedi said in another thread (followed by a stern anti-threadjacking warning):
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The MKULTRA thing is ringing huge bells with me. If Timehole enjoy referencing previous ARG's, then any MKULTRA connection would be a direct nod to MAJESTIC - the failed commercial ARG put out by Electronic Arts several years ago. It's entire theme was based on the MKULTRA experiements - the CIA even went as far as combining LSD and hypnosis to program sleeper agents, who could be activated by a code word and made to assasinate someone. Problem was, the code-word would tend to crop up in the middle of an everyday conversation, and then the subject would switch to "ready" mode and just stand there.

I think we may be on the right lines with the psychic abilities theory though. Follow the dots...


Perhaps this accounts for Eva's missing time; she was in "ready mode."

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a direct nod to MAJESTIC....


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Perhaps this accounts for Eva's missing time; she was in "ready mode."


Well...if it's a nod to MAJESTIC, we're in trouble. Eva's absence can only mean she's in "standby" and I remember how long THOSE lasted.... Smile

Joking aside, I'd more inclined to think that the lost time is some kind of suppression, whether consciously or not, or her own doing. She's pretty obviously (to my thinking at least) a lab rat...and maybe Erwin was as well.

I just wish she'd resurface long enoug to deal with e-mail...I have a couple harebrained questions I'd like to ask her.
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I like your theory Jedi. Is it possible that this goes further back in time though? Not sure if anyone else has spotted it but if you zoom in on the pic of 10 year old Eva, the lamp in the top right appears to be branded "Kenkon"

Apologies if this is a newbie stating the obvious but couldn't see it mentioned anywhere else.

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daemon666 wrote:
I like your theory Jedi. Is it possible that this goes further back in time though? Not sure if anyone else has spotted it but if you zoom in on the pic of 10 year old Eva, the lamp in the top right appears to be branded "Kenkon"

Apologies if this is a newbie stating the obvious but couldn't see it mentioned anywhere else.

No, you're right. Her parents have a history at SRI, and her mother was ill a lot of the time before she died. I believe her mother may have been the first experiment, which didn't exactly go too well.

There may be something genetic in Eva's line that KenKon have an interest in, which makes her especially receptive to the experiment, or they may have just been grooming her for this experiment her whole life out of convenience.

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Eva
So it's possible that Eva was a test from the beginning.

Could she have been artificially inseminated in to her mother by Kenkon Due to her mother was phsyic could they have been trying to manipulate the gene. - Eva's mother dies due to reaction cause by manipulating these Genes

Question:- Was her father a physic? Or have the pull the Gene from another host. - (Melvin Giest)?

I think Eva's Physic abilities are beginning to show, Perhaps Youshi is a supressant to keep these abilities at bay. Not knowing how powerful a physic she is they are trying the keep it under contreol

Last question could Keir be another test and somehow related the Eva?


Or all this is just a Trout?

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hobgoblin wrote:
I think Eva's Physic abilities are beginning to show, Perhaps Youshi is a supressant to keep these abilities at bay. Not knowing how powerful a physic she is they are trying the keep it under contreol

I think that's unlikely. She's only had the ability to affect her surroundings since she started taking the Youshi, and with KenKon's goal being the ENHANCEMENT of human abilities through microbiotics, I don't think they would want to surpress anything.

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Jediwannabe wrote:
I think that's unlikely. She's only had the ability to affect her surroundings since she started taking the Youshi, and with KenKon's goal being the ENHANCEMENT of human abilities through microbiotics, I don't think they would want to surpress anything.


Agreed, is it possible Kenkon/Youkin did something to Eva when she was a child, and the Youshi is activating or enhancing this?

Perhaps the Youshi is altering her in some way to make her more receptive, making small adjustments to her on a genetic level - hence her seemingly new ability to see or manifest objects.

The blackout she caused on seeing Voiphe suggests something similar, and this could explain the memory loss.

Not watertight I know but just thinking out loud. Feel free to amend/expand on my ideas.

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daemon666 wrote:
Jediwannabe wrote:
I think that's unlikely. She's only had the ability to affect her surroundings since she started taking the Youshi, and with KenKon's goal being the ENHANCEMENT of human abilities through microbiotics, I don't think they would want to surpress anything.


Agreed, is it possible Kenkon/Youkin did something to Eva when she was a child, and the Youshi is activating or enhancing this?

Anything is possible, I guess - but to my mind, it wouldn't make sense to try that sort of experiment on a child. They are too unpredictable and unstable - besides, if we assume that her mother was originally part of the same experiment, then they wouldn't have needed a new test subject until after she died.

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Perhaps the Youshi is altering her in some way to make her more receptive, making small adjustments to her on a genetic level - hence her seemingly new ability to see or manifest objects.

The blackout she caused on seeing Voiphe suggests something similar, and this could explain the memory loss.

My personal gut feeling is that the the new abilities are effects of the Youshi, but that the memory loss is due to conditioning. I have a feeling that SRI may have attempted to wipe key parts of her memory prior to starting her experiment, so that she didn't put two and two together and figure out what was happening to her on her own. The experiment will have officially started once her foot was broken, as that is when we are first told about her short-term and long-term memory losses. She also experiences pain when attempting to recover the lost memories, which may indicate either a past traumatic event which her mind has blotted out - or some sort of hypnotic block placed on purpose by SRI.

A small part of me is also starting to wonder if she ever really had a cat at all, or if it is all in her head.

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Jediwannabe wrote:

A small part of me is also starting to wonder if she ever really had a cat at all, or if it is all in her head.


Now that would be a plot twist. Very Happy
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 		Though I'm rather rubbish at this, here's my (perhaps stupid) question:
Is it possible that Subject180287 is Keir? He may not even know that. Yet I think it possible that SRI (or whosoever) makes use of people who activate great emotions in Eva, whether they want that or not.
I do think Erwin is real, but SRI may use him to test the youshi effects on animals, or to manipulate Eva, or both.

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 		Given that 180287 matches Eva's birthday we've always assumed the subject to be her, but given this arg's penchant for bending logic who knows

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mgelles wrote:
Given that 180287 matches Eva's birthday we've always assumed the subject to be her, but given this arg's penchant for bending logic who knows

The Psivolution site seems to suggest that Subject180287 is, for lack of a better description, the internet - or at least, some form of artificial intelligence that has evolved as a result of the viral connections being made between Schroedinger, Erwin, Eva, SRI, Youkin, KenKon etc... Almost as if it is some ancient program, long forgotten, that has drawn together all of these peices of the puzzle and taken on a life of its own.

Which sounds as convoluted as an Anime plot, I know, but it's the best I can come up with.

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