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[White District] - Blockrun [SOLVED]
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notgordian
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[White District] - Blockrun [SOLVED]
In Public Services Building

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The sad truth is that not everyone is in line with the goals of Defensecorp. Even among our organization you can always find a couple of Luddites that have a problem with what we are trying to accomplish here. It looks like we may have some of these troublemakers in our Housing and Facilities division.

Our standard intel sweeps found some rather interesting bursts coming off the H&F roof over the last couple of weeks. We think someone in there might be using some old microwave transmitter to communicate with the skivers. Hell, they could even be talking with someone over the wall for all we know.

Take a look at the last transmission and see if you can make heads or tails of it. Looks like a bunch of nonsense to me, but I don't think that someone would drag 200 pounds of fifteen-year-old technology up to the roof just to shoot gobbledygook into outer space.


There's a video that shows scrolling rectangles with wedges or rectangles cut out of it--below are screenshots of the video and a badly drawn transcript of the shape order--for those of you with red karma, I'd appreciate if somebody could do a quick accuracy verification.

The two screengrabs show the beginning screen (no reproductions) and a shot of the blocks scrolling by.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:15 am
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Tezar
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good work

I have checked your transcription. It matched.
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notgordian
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Just posting the idea I'm following now...

I have a hunch this problem is like Composure *ugh*--in this iteration, it works like a telephone cipher. One completely green block would be one letter (maybe "A") while two in a row would be another (say, "B").

There are a couple of iterations of this that would make sense, so testing if it works will take a while. Dunno the starting point, whether it goes clockwise or counterclockwise, whether the duplicates move on to the next letter or if it cycles through all the "1s" then all the "2s".

If any of you are good at frequency analysis for cryptographic solves, here's one iteration of what the lettering would therefore be.

ESGKCNEFRBIRMFSIAHAGFRASDELFGHBPCORFMQCCHCQIDEKITAHCQ

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Things noticed

There are nine possible blocks. The colored section always follows a pattern, and thus I believe that the side that is colored is uninportant and simply makes where the lines are more explicit.

The lines also follow a pattern. There are two lines, meeting in the middle. One of them is always connected to the top center. The other is at a corner or the middle of one of the lines. There are two possibilities for the second line also being at the top center (at least that's how I see it): the second line having rotated none and the square being empty, or the second line having made a complete revolution and the entire square being filled in.

Whatever encoding this is favors repetitions. Same blocks are more often than not near eachother. This may mean that the location of the blocks themselves are actually unimportant. My first guess, for instance, was that you had to arrange these blocks to form a picture, but the number of blocks is not a perfect square, so this is relatively unlikely and the number of combinations is offputting.

The block I have labelled #4, which has the block split exactly in half down the center, with the left side colored in, is conspicuously more common than any others. The least common is the square with only one-eighth colored in.

Hopefully this sparks someones memory of some sort of encoding methodology.
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A phone cipher was mentioned before, but it doesn't look like one: there are 9 different blocks (although one could indicate a space).

naming 0 all-brown and 8 all-blue, we can get this:

3
44441
66
5
33
32
886
8
88
442
4444
870
712
887
4444
43
55
210
611
522
882
4400
5
50
500
843
668
666
70
500

Now, it's time to de-phone that

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Apologies for posting without anything to say, but just wanted to remind everybody that this puzzle is still unsolved.

I wrote Theo a while back (since the Brotherhood would know the code) to see if he could let me know if we were on the right track, but I didn't hear back from him regarding this.

Crying or Very sad

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Here's the message for wrong answers, by the way.

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Do not be discouraged. Our computers say there is a pattern, it's just a matter of finding it.


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Well, for future warning, don't ask Prince for help with tasks. Here's what he said to me:
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ADPrince says: Detective Kropp is your handler agent, any inquiries you have regarding tasks such as blockrun should be directed to him. Your confusion has been noted on your record. Prince out.


So polite, isn't he? I've sent a message to Kropp, so we'll see if any IG hints for this puzzle will show up!

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And a double post for me. Bah.
Well, here's Kropp's "hint":

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kropp says: Blockrun eh? Well far as I can tell the symbols must represent letters of some kind.


Don't you think we KNOW that?! Do you really think I'm THAT far gone? Prince is an ass and Kropp thinks I'm an idiot!

And if this puzzle is SOMEHOW Braille, I'm am going to cry.

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Tordek wrote:
A phone cipher was mentioned before, but it doesn't look like one: there are 9 different blocks (although one could indicate a space).

naming 0 all-brown and 8 all-blue, we can get this:

3
44441
66
....
70
500

Now, it's time to de-phone that


Lurker here (for the past week, very new to the ARG thing)

Anyway, tried the phone thing and nothing popped out at me (tried a quick ROT-13, but got nothing still)


However a couple ideas: 1) maybe the numbers are dependant on where the box points to be over a number pad or phone pad.
Like a phone pad looks like
7 8 9
4 5 6
1 2 3

so the half would be 2 and the quarter would be 6...ect. (i can try to explain better, but can't think of a way to now)

2) Why have that particular pattern as a overlay in the video, it makes me think that we need to look at the numbers on diagonals

I tried adding up both the rows and diagonals by my numbering pattern in #1 and attaching letters to those sums. I tried all the possible (sequential) ways to manipulate and I did't see anything very promising.

but again I'm very new to the puzzle-solving world, so someone might want to take a look again to see if I missed anything.

Happy Hunting!

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Welcome aboard Transtar! Smile

On Blockrun... I've noticed that, in the video, only a few blocks at a time are up. Since it's at a diagonal, even if letters repeat, might it mean something? I'll take a few more looks, but I don't think we have to look at it straight down, like we do in the pictures.

Of course, I might be completely wrong. I'll keep checking

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nintendo's anyone
blockrun possibilities

Does anyone remember Super Mario Brothers from the original Nintendo? There was a deal on there where you could could seemingly infinite lives, and when you did, the number of lives appeared in blocks much like these. I no longer have a Nintendo or Super Mario Brothers, but does anyone have one or remember how those symbols went?

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Tordek
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Sorry, but those are just errors that happen when you try to access a point in memory where there aren't any more pictures.

Perhaps anything to do with magic sqares? Although that renders 0 useless (+1 to everything?), and the basic 3x3 square (2 7 6, 9 5 1, 4 3 Cool has 8 rotations + flips.

Following the phone road, 4 is the only number that appears 4 times in a row, and there are a couple positions where it matches 7 or 9, the only two numbers in a phone pad with four letters. (Still, the issue of the useless 9th button comes back to haunt us.)

I thought about semaphore signales (table at wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semaphore_%28communication%29 ), but it doesn't seem to work.

Brainstorming, people, please.

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Tordek wrote:

naming 0 all-brown and 8 all-blue, we can get this:

3
44441
66
5
33
32
886
8
88
442
4444
870
712
887
4444
43
55
210
611
522
882
4400
5
50
500
843
668
666
70
500


This could be wide of the mark, but what iff those numbers stand for strokes in a (lowercase) letter, with one line for each letter? E.g. 5 could be an x-height downward stroke and 0 could be an arch, so 5 would be i, 50 would be n, and 500 m. Similarly 70 could be h if 7 was an l height downward stroke and so on. This struck me as obvious because I once invented a code like this. The biggest flaw that this theory has is that it would be difficult to use only 9 different strokes to make every letter. All that you would have to do from then on would be use sub-cyphe techniques to make sense of it.

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Everything that I got

Alright, in an effort to get some more wheels moving, I'm goign to post what I got so far.

I used the theory that each symbol pointed to a number on the num-pad or phone pad. Then I took each row and sumed those for my "straight" configuration, and I took the blocks on a diagonal (same diagonal as the overlay) so that it would be the order of appearance and used those sums. then I took the sums and assigned them a letter with 1=a 2=b ect. So the vaiants are 1) num pad or phone pad 2) diagonal or straight and 3) a full block is the top key or middle key. So here are the strings I got from those, they look promising, but I haven cracked them to get anyhting good.

Also down the bottom is my diagonal numbering using the num pad as a key. (hope this helps someone)

Num pad straight full 8 CQHAFITHPJHTVWHEBTVMVNAFKMPLLK
Num pad straight full 5 CQHAFINEJJHTVQHEBWVMPTAIQJMLOQ
Num pad diagonal full 8 CBFGEONPLJDPPXPKFIMOWPIFKMKKSJEE
Num pad diagonal full 5 CBFGEOKJIGDMPXMKFIMRTMIIQMNKPMHH
Phone straight full 2 IZHGROHBDVZHJEZQNNJSJZGLQSJLFQ
Phone straight full 5 IZHGRONEJVZHJKZQNKJSPTGIKVMLCK
Phone diagonal full 2 IHLSQUHDFJPPJRPQXUGOKPULQGQQGPEE
Phone diagonal full 5 IHLSQUKJIMPSJRSQXUGLNSUIKGNQJMBB


3
2
2 4
2 4 1
2 3
9 3 3
6 8
8 8
4 8
8 2
2 2
6 2 8
2 7 7
2 5 9 8
6 8 2
7 2 2
2 3 1
2 1 6
9 4
5 9 1
9 6 8
6 8 2
6 2 1
5 1
5 5 1
5 8
5 2 4
3 4 4
8 4 7
4 5 1
5
5

\ Sorry for the long post

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