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[LETTER] White District

[notgordian]

That is definitely a new email--and it's good to have someone on the Red side with Green sympathies. I was doing that role recently, but just crossed over to the other side.

One thing Deus City is really good for is personalized interaction. They invest a lot of efforts into it. The same seems to have been true with tCotSA...that's why I'm not as surprised by the relationship between the two as I probably should have been.

Also, hearing that the aspects that made tCotSA so cool will still be a part of the game makes me glad--I love the idea of utilizing the postal service as an integral part of the game.

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[notgordian]

OK...most of your answers can be found at the Wiki page (there's a section that explains stuff like karma and all of that) but I'll take care of the issues here, too.

1) Yes. Everyone starts off as either green or red karma. Green is more associated with the Brotherhood (Brackin) and the Grey District, while Red is more associated with Defensecorp (Foo) and the White District. "Positive" karma makes you greener, while "Negative" karma makes you redder.

Your karma changes based on the puzzles you solve. In each district there are a few puzzles where you can send information to the other side. Also, there are some puzzles where wrong answers will give you send you in the "opposite" direction, so you can switch colors by guessing incorrectly a lot.

2) The colors work essentially on a spectrum. If you get a LOT of green karma, you become blue. I would presume if you get a lot of blue karma, you become black (although Father Beck became black by dying--that merely indicates you are out of the system).

The same works with red. If you get a lot of red karma, you become yellow. Presumably, more karma after that turns you white. The only characters with yellow or red karma are Agent Lex and morelaak--Agent Lex because he gave Foo info that led to Father Beck's death, morelaak because he contacted chris asking for proof that he could manipulate the system.

Currently, people with white black or grey karma are in-game. White karma means you work for Defense Corp in the White District. Black karma means you're with the Brotherhood. Grey karma means you work in the grey district under Alex Wright, the CEO of Wright Industries. This is an important distinction, since Wright is technically supportive of Foo...he's just nicer and in the slums.


3) Your best bet to become red is to only solve the problems that allow you to send information to Defense Corp. Here's what you should do (this may take some time to get the requisite credits).

-Solve "Light and Dark" in Cornerstone Speakeasy. DO NOT sent to the Brotherhood.
-Solve "Contact" in Whisper Club (optional...it might be cheaper to just skip to "Shooting Transcript")
-Go to "Shooting Transcript" in Safe House Epsilon and continue submitting incorrect answers until it doesn't let you do so any more.

You can try writing Foo or ADPrince and asking what you can do, but they're more likely to just tell you to spy on the Grey District while you're there. If you do this and betray valuable information, that will also switch your karmas.

Hope that helps, sorry if it's long. The methodology I described may not be the most efficient, but it worked for me. Doing all three steps will maximize your credits at the end of it (you might not even have to do the third step) but it may also take longer.

[negativeview]

Wow, I had looked at the wiki before but (possibly because I didn't know what I was looking for at the time) didn't see anything as useful as I see now.

For reference of the tCotSA players, it is at http://deuscitywiki.caffeinedrip.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page , which is also posted in a sticky post over in that "other" forum.

To save anyone the time of thinking along the same lines as I have been: white karma appears to be just redder-red, so regardless of if we need to be in the white district or even get white karma, presumably the path is the same, white karma will just take MUCH longer.

Also, thanks for being patient with me notgordian. If you weren't green I'd "trust" you in-game.

[negativeview]

I have relented on my desire to remain ambiguously aligned even on these boards. But I do so to ask for advice here.

For the record, I am aligned with tCotSA (big shock I know), which assuredly means that I'm against Foo. I am not sure that that means that I am WITH anyone in particular aside from eldoradowatcher. This may be a branch of Brakin, this may be its own thing. Dunno, but I'm sticking with my sedulous brothers.

Anywho, I took our mission as one to infiltrate Foos trust. In doing so, I sent the following message:

[JohnnyCon7]

I would say our best bet is one of us could purposely give themselves up for you, take one for the team as it were. I'm red but if I can some how make myself fit the description (I'll edit my allegiances?), I'd be happy to sacrifice myself so you could get in with Foo. If he really just wants to obtain one of the devices (sniffers?), so he can analyze it and see how it works, we could always give a fake one to the agent that will be turned over.

Actually me being red, I might be more valuable, really all we need to do is supply me with a fake device, and I won't mind taking a shot for tCotSA. I feel pretty useless at the moment anyway.

[negativeview]

You fit as far as I'm concerned, as you're a tCotSA guy! (I'm not sure if you were already playing DC, too, though.)

If you really want to give yourself up, I have no qualms with you being the scapegoat as it were.

My remaining qualm though is in throwing in the towel for eldoradowatcher.

Am I being too in-character here?

Edit: also, do you already have this device Foo speaks of?

[JohnnyCon7]

I don't know what the device is at all , in fact I don't know if thats my fault, or if any of the players know. I want to fake the device though, of course we need to know what it is to fake it.

As far as throwing Ethan under the bus, I assunme you mean because we'll ruin his way of communicating secretly, but that won't be true if we fake the device, in fact it'll probably throw Foo off his trail for a bit.

The only problem I see is that, well, I feel over my head . I have no idea what this device is, but maybe Ethan will help us if someone close to him (aninterloper perhaps) asks for his help. He may be able to provide a good replica of the device, or advise us against our plan if it will inevitably hurt him.

[negativeview]

This all comes from OOG, so I'm not supposed to know this.

The device seems to be something that one of the green powerful people (the bishop i think?) "installs" on your account, then any messages you send that have <sniffme> in the body can't be monitored.

I don't think that telling him about "<sniffme>" would be enough. I need someone that has the thing "installed" on their account, probably.

Being a "greeny" on the surface (and at heart, but don't tell Foo) I might be able to get it on my account and not throw anyone under the bus. Except eldoradowatcher. This is tricky because I can't warn him about it without risking exposing myself if the device allows Foo to see all PREVIOUS messages, too.

Unless someone has a way of contacting him outside of the interface. Is he current-day or future? If he's future, there's no way except for one character.

[JohnnyCon7]

Well I guess all we need is for Bishop or whoever to install a fake device on my account, and then you can turn me in to Foo. As far as warning him that might be tough, but I could always send a letter to tCotSA, and see if they can somehow start the wheels rolling, and also maybe warn eldorado.

Think its worth a try?

[echidna]

[zoid]

the way i see it (im very new to args and unforums so i wouldnt go quoting me anywhere since i believe the unforums rules say they are supposed to be strictly OOG) since you guys use the tCotSA board as a way of sharing information between you guys would be alright. the deus city boards on the other hand have information posted that isnt meant for all IG characters to know which is vital to the game.

[aninterloper]

[negativeview]

Curiously, eldoradowatcher seems more careful in email than through the interface, though he did not use <sniffme>...

My email to him: