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Pied Piper · Unfettered Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 362

Pay to play

**Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:51 pm

Pixiestix

that would be great except they are in hiding.

i am just hoping this was a beta arg, and we will have a sequel or something. it was so great, i want more!!!

EDIT TO ADD - i too want a yuki!

**Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:52 pm

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**Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:53 pm

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**Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:35 pm

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mgelles · Decorated Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 210

I think asking about if we would pay to play was an entirely legitimate question for an arg developer to ask even if just for curiosities sake. who among us wouldn't like to completely make a living doing what they love, but...

i think they did a very good thing doing the entire arg free this time as I would not have paid for Meigeist upfront because in addition to my presently limited funds i would've had no idea what I was getting into. however I would now consider paying for a sequel from the same development team, provided the price was reasonable and with the expectation that due to the game being funded we would have an experience that was equal to or superior in qyality to the one we just had.
I would also be more than happy with a donation or pay for extras model which has already been followed at a text-based RPG I play. It's very nice to be able to send the admin there something to help defray costs when I have extra funds versus a monthly charge

Michelle

**Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:54 pm

UnimportantHero · Decorated Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 162

Compared to some of the ARGs I saw, the quality of their videos and overall visual production (websites, videos, et all) was very professional. Definite stuff of quality. If they made an ARG that was longer and offered more involvement for everyone - newbies and latecomers included - then I would totally pay... like... maybe between $5.00 and $10.00 a month.

**Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:34 pm

Jediwannabe

I'm dead against the idea of paying up-front - I did it once with Studio Cypher, and got burned, because neither the game itself nor the items I was sent were up to scratch.

I think the merchandise idea is by far the best one, but Geist could've made better use out of it. The overheads for print-shops like CafePress, means that very little money actually reaches the PM's - and the bidding nature of eBay, means that people who have less self-control and more money than some of the other gamers, will win out, plus it just feels a bit greedy of the PM's to pit players against each other like that.

On the whole, though, I think they were on the right track. I'm involved in a lot of promotional work for independent music, and they make very good headway by selling merchandise direct to the consumer - things like CD's and t-shirts, that are very reasonably priced, and because there are no middle-men involved, the profit goes directly to the artists - which is even more appealing to the consumer, because if they like the band, they will want to help them out as much as possible.

I would like to see the same model adopted by ARG's, where financial support is entirely optional, so that if the PM's do a good job, we can spend some money on some funky t-shirts or the odd goody here and there, and at the same time know that we are genuinely rewarding the people responsible, rather than some reseller.

Personally, I would've happily shelled out money for some personalised rewards if the quality was high enough. A kenkon t-shirt would've been nice - something that doesn't look out-of-place in the real-world, but serves as an inside joke to other ARG players - like a badge that says "Lost. Erwin" on it, or "I put Melvin Geist into a coma, and all I got was this lousy t-shirt." That sort of thing.

**Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:37 pm

konamouse

Giving our appreciation to PM teams.

**Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:03 pm

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Thank you

**Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:05 am

Pied Piper · Unfettered Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 362

Wow, what a nice comment to wake up to! Very Happy

**Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:12 am

Rekidk

Tell me about it!

Smile

Awesome, awesome job, PMs. Smile

/me runs off to email questions to ask to the ARGNetcast people.

**Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:15 am

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drizjr · Unfictologist Joined: 28 Nov 2003 Posts: 1700

Gratitude and Kudos

**Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:30 pm

Pied Piper · Unfettered Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 362

Re: Gratitude and Kudos

**Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:31 pm

WolfHawk

Ditto what the Piper said.

Of the games I've been involded with thus far Geist has been the most incredible

Excellent Wizarding by the PMs, excellent acting by the Actors, excellent gaming with everyone here!

Here's a question: Can I have everyone's autograph??!!

Sad to see it go!

**Posted:** Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:15 am

Sylvia · I Have No Life Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 2062

Hazel and Jonathan you guys are brilliant. I can only imagine the time you must have put into this. Geist was very well planed and thought out. The story, alone, held my attention and kept me coming back for more while the game aspect was just the icing on the cake. I especially liked the way you kept players on track and I'm thankful that you limited the chat sessions. I hate that I missed the last few days of the game but sometimes real life demands our attention and unfortunately there is no way to pause an ARG.

I can't say it loud enough, THANK YOU for the adventure, the experience and the memories.

**Posted:** Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:29 am