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[META/SPOILER] Eva - Who is she?
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Tarim
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[META/SPOILER] Eva - Who is she?
Behind the curtain SPOILER

Tarim wasn't going to post this until after the game had finished because he thought it was out of game.

But now he's not so sure...

Tarim is fairly certain that the first name of the actress who plays Eva is: Daisy.

http://www.naturaltheatre.co.uk/performers.php

If the intention is to make us believe that there's no such thing as coincidence - it's working Smile


Changed topic name to reflect content. - drizjr

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:10 pm
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Jediwannabe
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GAH! Pat and Dave are on there too. The curtain Tarim, the curtain!!! PUT IT BACK before you shatter my entire fragile little world!

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:27 pm
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PLEASE PLEASE edit your post to say specifically OOG META SPOILERS ABOUT FULL CAST! or something?


[EDIT]
Thank you!!!!!!!!!
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Tarim
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[META/SPOILER] Beef - Who are they?
More behind the curtain spoilers

Sorry Embarassed Think the curtain is pinned back up now. Please move along if you don't want to know any more.

After chatting with drizjr, Tarim is more convinced that this is just an in-joke on the part of the PMs and not part of the game (though you can never really be sure with those Naturals!)

For those of you who do want to peek some more - Tarim also came across a Bristol media company called, We Are Beef, http://wearebeef.co.uk/, who specialise in "mollage". As they say on their web site:

We Are Beef wrote:
What the hell is a mollage we hear you ask?...

In short its a daft name for a cOLLAGE made up of images sent from MObile phones.

Quite cool though isnt it?

We can take all the information sent from a mobile phone message and use it for fun or serious purposes.


and in their introduction they say:

We Are Beef wrote:
we can offer you tea and sometimes a lovely piece of cake


So that's the sort of tea that P&D prefer - and does the cake have 12 candles on it?

Tarim is just so impressed with the attention to detail in this game.
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Why does he write like that?

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Nice job, Tarim! Notice, Daisy was born into the company - her parents were with it. Notice also, there is only an additional male with the same last name.

Eva's parents were both involved with the whole SRI/Psivolutioin/etc. thing and her mother has passed on.

How in the world did you make the connection!

(As a "Theatre Person" I have no problem with curtains being raised or lowered; I know when to suspend my disbelief.)

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So if Eva is really Daisy, does that mean that Daisy is really Eva?

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Quote:
As a "Theatre Person" I have no problem with curtains being raised or lowered; I know when to suspend my disbelief.


You are a theater person to? Awesome. Smile

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Yep - I'm one of THOSE people! Got it all the time; "Oh, you're a theatre person," sometimes associated with a slight roll of the eyes or a tiny smirk.

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I'm an apprentice theater person, i.e., I've worked one high school show.
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WolfHawk wrote:
(As a "Theatre Person" I have no problem with curtains being raised or lowered; I know when to suspend my disbelief.)


I too am a theater person - does not mean as a player i like my curtains tight..... half the point is to not see behind the curtains.

[edit to add] - however, this is oddly seeming like either the two pms incorporated a lot of RL attributes into the game, or this isn't as meta as we thought,,,, will wait to see before i go to the site myself though.[/edit]
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[META/SPOILER] Subject180287 - What is it?
Curtain, what curtain? Spoiler.

If you don't like spoilers, meta-analysis, Tarim's style (or lack of it) then please don't read any further.

This time Tarim's literally lost the plot! This time he's ripping down the curtain and burning it. Perhaps it's the only way to understand what's going on here...

  1. http://www.enter-geist.com/about.html says:
    Wikipedia article wrote:
    "The use of pervasive media outlets that extend into the players' everyday creates a situation where the game's alternate reality and the real world collide. As the in-game elements and real world overlap, the lines are blurred between the game world and reality."

    In other words, we're really going to have to look outside of what is "in game" or "out of game" to solve this one.

  2. Frankie Francis asked:
    • What is subject180287?
    • How can we take control of it?

    And everyone assumed that "we" means "the players". Or it might mean, "how can, whoever Frankie Francis represents, take control of subject180287?" (See what can happen when you get your first and third person confused Wink)

    And why is that distinction important? OK, here's the cryptic part...

  3. Whoever Frankie Francis represents has been testing subject180287 already! They have tested its reasoning. They have tested its creativity. They have tested its investigative ability. They are testing its ability to act as a collective consciousness. And then there's the test of whether it is self-aware.

    Can you guess what it is yet?


Fulcrum. What is subject180287?
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

We are subject180287.




Now, either that strikes you like a smackeroblurdy such as you've never thorkus before - or it confirms that Tarim is as mad as a bag of spiders (or possibly both).

If you find it to be true - then subject180287 is starting to become self aware - which might explain the question from http://psivolution.com/3.html
Quote:
Could the discovery of the true nature of the mind map destroy it? Or will it simply adapt, change and grow more powerful?

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VERY interesting Tarim. I had been thinking somewhat along those lines as well. That we the ARGers are actually the people being studied.

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Jalathas
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So... if you're right, does this count as subject180287 becoming self-aware?

EDIT: Read this part of the site again:
Quote:
How it started no one yet knows. It has simply come into being through the collaboration of individuals and groups of individuals. Geographically they are scattered around the globe but in the virtual domain they are one and the same mind.

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Re: [META/SPOILER] Subject180287 - What is it?
Curtain, what curtain? Spoiler.

Quote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

We are subject180287.




...or subject180287 could just be Eva, concidering that Eva's birthday is 18/02 -87

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Re: [META/SPOILER] Subject180287 - What is it?
Curtain, what curtain? Spoiler.

markzpot wrote:
Quote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

We are subject180287.




...or subject180287 could just be Eva, concidering that Eva's birthday is 18/02 -87

Of course not. That's far too obvious. This is an ARG, man, think triangularly!
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