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jamesi

For whatever reason (they changed the page, who knows) I get this as the string of letters:

theocooroowgdsammfaesthelhndkehewthecongofwmsrmdandthemoseon

not the same... trying to compare now

**Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 2:43 am

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jamesi

It's no coincidence... taking a closer look at how the two lines match up gives us these letters out of place:

the two lines:
thtocoorhewgtsemmfaesldshhndkeheasowcongofwmtrmeanddoomeheon top line
theocooroowgdsammfaesthelhndkehewthecongofwmsrmdandthemoseon
bottom line

top line: theteldshasowtedooeh
bottom line: eoodathelwthesdtheos

both exclusion strings contain the same letters: addeeeehhhlooosstttw

still working on what to do with them, however... with no support from you sleepyheads out there! Razz

EDIT: Obviously, there is some sort of substitution thingy going on. I'm not a master of this kind of puzzling, so I may leave it to the rest of you.

**Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 2:53 am

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Well

**Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 3:30 am

reesylou · Decorated Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 260

Those exclusion strings anagram to (amongst other things):
to see he told the shadow OR he told the shadow to see

dunno where it gets us though

**Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 3:34 am

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**Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 7:42 am

Myssfitz

**Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 8:42 am

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grumpyboy · Unfettered Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 660

in case nobody has noticed, the frequency distribution of the old string and new string are the identical. that is, there are still the same number of each of the letters. they've only been shuffled around a bit...

**Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 11:47 am

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**Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 12:59 pm

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**Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 1:14 pm

Myssfitz

I was just reading Sunny's new post about the Don sending her flowers. I noticed a few words that can be in our string.

dark
lord
charm(s) (which has been mentioned)

She said she can resist the Dons charms. And thinks he is the "dark lord" or serves the "dark lord".

**Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 1:44 pm

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**Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 8:56 pm

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grumpyboy · Unfettered Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 660

i'm thinking this is some sort of transposition cipher. which basically is a form of anagramming/mixing up letters. but with 60 letters it'd be pretty hard to solve for the plaintext without knowing how the characters were transposed. incidentally there are transpositions which utilizes spiral patterns of filling in/taking out text instead of the usual rows/columns that we usually see. see this page... http://members.aon.at/cipherclerk/Doc/GenericTransp.html
i've been working on it from this angle but nothing yet Confused

oh, the the third new string of characters also has the exact same freq distribution as the first 2 strings...

**Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 9:24 pm

JimmyImpossible · Veteran Joined: 27 Apr 2003 Posts: 104 Location: Ottawa

Figured it out, it was indeed an anagram:

**Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 9:29 pm

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I've been playing with the third string in the anagram online tool.
I keep seeing "god" or "gods", "knowledge", and "transform". But the rest of the possible words/letters aren't making total sense yet.
Maybe these words will help.

Remember, this is not from mythosphere guides or suppose to relate to Dale, Wes or Sam (yet). So I'm avoiding those words.

edited to add: Damn, you beat me to it by just a minute or two.
Great Job!!

**Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 9:30 pm

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grumpyboy · Unfettered Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 660

**Posted:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 9:36 pm