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Missing Manuscript/Hollow Needle Stenographia Bk 4 mystery
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MageSteff
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 		Missing Manuscript/Hollow Needle Stenographia Bk 4 mystery
Since there hasn't been much posted about these pages I thought I'd do a bit or research and try to get everything on these two pages under one heading. If I missed something please add a message with the link to the reference info. Thanks. Very Happy

References:
http://www.missingmanuscript.com/picturepage14.html
http://www.aglauranj.org/manuscriptpage.html
http://www.aglauranj.org/manuscriptpage.html

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7206#7206
Mopi's list of Angels for the various Planetary days of the week.

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=11645#11645
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=11785#11785
By ME
Missing manuscript symbols
Top border symbol symbol: Saturn (Cronius, Cronos)

Left side border: top to bottom
left top: Venus (Aphrodite, Love)
left middle: Jupiter (Zeus, son of Cronos)
left bottom: Mercury (Hermes, messenger)

Right side top to bottom
RT: Mars (War, Ares)
RM: Luna (Moon)
RB: Sol (Sun)


Solomon's seals and Angelic Influence

http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kosfig.htm
and
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7206#7206
Mopi's list of Angels for the various Planetary days of the week.

If you look at the various plates linked at the top of the page, please note the symbol marking much like those on the missing manuscript pages.

Correlation to the Missing Manuscript pages

Saturn (angel: Orifiel, first ruler)
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos02.gif
Note the two seals with Magic Squares
and
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos03.gif

Venus (angel: Hanael or Anael, second ruler)
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos09.gif
Note three of the seals are for Venus, one if which is a pentagram (figure 40) and the fourth one in the upper left hand corner is for the Sun, which is a maltese cross arragement, (dare I mention SOD uses that symbol on their website, yes, I dare) (the Sun symbol appears on the right side of the missing manuscript page
and
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos10.gif
Two are seals of Venus and Two are seals of Mercury (which also appear on the left side lower corner of the manuscript)


Jupiter (angel: Zachariel, third ruler)
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos04.gif
and
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos05.gif


Mercury (angel: Raphael, fourth ruler)
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos10.gif
and
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos11.gif


Mars (angel: Samael, fifth ruler)
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos05.gif
and
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos06.gif
Note Fig. 27 - The Third Pentacle of Mars.--It is of great value for exciting war, wrath, discord, and hostility; also for resisting enemies, and striking terror into rebellious Spirits; the Names of God the All Powerful are therein expressly marked
and
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos07.gif


Moon (angel: Gabriel, sixth ruler )
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos11.gif
Note: Figure 49.--The First Pentacle of the Moon.--This and the following serve to call forth and invoke the Spirits of the Moon; and it further serveth to open doors, in whatever way they may be fastened. Editor's Note.--The Pentacle is a species of hieroglyphic representation of a door or gate.
and
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos12.gif
Note: Figure 51.--The Third Pentacle of the Moon.--This being duly borne with thee when upon a journey, if it be properly made, serveth against all attacks by night, and against every kind of danger and peril by Water.
Figure 52.--The Fourth Pentacle of the Moon.--This defendeth thee from all evil sorceries, and from all injury unto soul or body. Its Angel, Sophiel, giveth the knowledge of the virtue of all herbs and stones; and unto whomsoever shall name him, he will procure the knowledge of all.
Editor's Note.--The Divine Name Eheieh Asher Eheieh, and the Names of the Angels Yahel and Sophiel. The versicle is:--'Let them be confounded who persecute me, and let me not be confounded; let them fear,and not I.'

Sun (angel: Michael, seventh ruler)
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos07.gif
and
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos08.gif
Note: Figure 35.--The Fourth Pentacle of the Sun.--This serveth to enable thee to see the Spirits when they appear invisible unto those who invoke them; because, when thou hast uncovered it, they will immediately appear visible.
and
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos09.gif
Note: This is the one with the Sons of Don logo, see what the text has to say about this!
Figure 38.--The Seventh and last Pentacle of the Sun.—If any be by chance imprisoned or detained in fetters of iron, at the presence of this Pentacle, which should be engraved in Gold on the day and hour of the Sun, he will be immediately delivered and set at liberty.

Spec:
This could possibly explain either how to control the spirits, or how someone is controlling spirits. And why Don Marzano remains free so far.
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MageSteff
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 		Hollow Needle manuscript page picture
http://www.aglauranj.org/manuscriptpage.html
Lazurus came up with this on the latin
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/7206

"Hidden Truth
Chasing the Wish

Written by the revered and illustrious man
Johannes Trithemius
Abbott of Spanheimensi,
Magician, Philosopher, & Perfect Master"

Now if you look at the symbol on the center of the right hand column, Roger Penrose found it in a second place a photocopy of The third book of Steganographia
http://www.missingmanuscript.com/picturepage12.html

and on this picture
http://www.missingmanuscript.com/picturepage11.html
the symbol from the center top row is also in the other photograph on this page, as if it was a seal or a coin of so kind, and someone has added text in what appears to be Hebrew or a version based on Hebrew.

I sent an e-mail to Wes mentioning Professor Whiting, and maybe getting a second opinion from him on the pages. I'll keep you updated.
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 		your research skills never cease to amaze me Magesteff

Quote:
a maltese cross arragement, (dare I mention SOD uses that symbol on their website, yes, I dare)


Shocked Exclamation
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 		I can't possibly go through all that though. Anyway you could parse it into a paragraph or two so we can see the parts that are surely related?

Don't know about the others, but I just have to fly right by posts that are that long with that many links. Seems a shame that you did so much reading and then it gets passed by.
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 		Dmax - I think you will be interested in the SOD connections
dmax wrote:
I can't possibly go through all that though. Anyway you could parse it into a paragraph or two so we can see the parts that are surely related?

Don't know about the others, but I just have to fly right by posts that are that long with that many links. Seems a shame that you did so much reading and then it gets passed by.


Since I'm not sure which parts people may find relavent to their own research, I tried to at least order things so that the informationw was all in one area on the post.

If I remeber correctly, you are interested in the SOD connections into all of this, so you might be interested in the Seal of Solomon that involves the Sun, which looks like the Maltese cross SOD uses on its website...


http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/kos/kos09.gif
One in the upper left hand corner is for the Sun (Figure 3Cool, which is a maltese cross arragement, (dare I mention SOD uses that symbol on their website, yes, I dare) (the Sun symbol appears on the right side of the missing manuscript page)
The text site related to this page contained the following information
Quote:
Figure 38.--The Seventh and last Pentacle of the Sun.—If any be by chance imprisoned or detained in fetters of iron, at the presence of this Pentacle, which should be engraved in Gold on the day and hour of the Sun, he will be immediately delivered and set at liberty.


The Sun is ruled by the angel Michael per info supplied my Mopi
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