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[?TRAILHEAD] Briefcase from a dead guy
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I just wanted to summarize what are the puzzles we have left to solve. If there's been any progress on these fronts, please post.
1.) From the original post by Redford with the contents of the briefcase, there is a message originally thought to be Arabic, but now thought to be in Farsi?
2.) From the Mario's Italian Restaraunt website, there is a phone recording in poor Italian. Anyone have a good translation into English?
3.) Redford's blot has a presumably Vigenere cipher with unknown key.
4.) The Woman in Red has posted a business card with an unreadable set of letters on it.
5.) She also posted a photo from Q named 1steg. Any ideas on what files are contained within it?
6.) The WiR has also posted another presumably Vigenere cipher with unkown key.
Anything else out there we should be thinking about?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:52 pm
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The photo which is likely stegged is from the Erechthion which is on the Acropolis in Athens, Greece.
http://library.thinkquest.org/03oct/02085/Mythart/erechtheionenglish.htm
This didn't help me find the password, yet, though.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:08 pm
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other missing information..
Speculation

1. We know that Q was at the Redentore Festival in Venice July 15-16, 2006 as a living statue and killed someone, we dont know why, or how.

2. WiR has asked us specifically to find out where he went after that, and why.

3. We know Mario & Tonio Pirelli are his bosses scratch that.. we know they were working together..... We dont know who they work for. WiR has alluded to someone(s) "higher than the mob". Government? the Vatican?

4. Somehow it all comes back to San Francisco.... somehow someway. We have yet to make the connection back there.

5. We know that Q was set up on an "appointment" for a kill in SF on SMITH SF MARCH 21 TARGET PRESSENT MARIO. Was WiR the target?

6. Also, I've been pondering, the relationship between Q(Smith) and WiR.. she says they had chemistry... I wonder if Q was her source of information. Pirellis found out and then set Q up to get his own "appointment". hmmmm...

7. K-47 - on the "calling card" on the hit in Venice and the card key that was in the briefcase.

8. Lots and Lots of Movie title referrals from WiR, in addition to calling Q an "actor". Connection with the Film Festival in Venice a few months later?

more later..

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:49 pm
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Ooooh fun Smile
I do enjoy a good list!
Most of this has been covered, but I added some linkage.
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    *Illegible Arabic/Farsi letter from briefcase.

    *Found it odd that the letter from Mario states "The terms are OK, 10,000 E now.." and yet Redford states the briefcase contains 10,525 Euros.

    *"K-47" found on Keycard and John Q Smith's business card.

    *The significance/meaning of the photo collection as a whole, from the briefcase.

    *Significance of WIR's comment "put your lips together and blow" along with photo of St Mark's Basilica.
    (Stegged w/ Slim/To Have and Have Not/Lauren Bacall?)

    *Significance of the multiple use of the phrase Tuesdays are Free including its inclusion on John Q Smith's business card.
    (The only reference I could find was that many museums are often free on Tuesdays).

    *Illegible inverted text on John Q's business card.

    *A thorough translation of the Italian voice message at (206) 208-9549 found at Mario's Ristorante Italia.

    *What was John Q Smith doing at Redentore dressed as a living statue? Besides murdering someone I mean Wink

    *Cipher-text sent via email from WIR to Redford for his "little friends", along with the phrase Remember Smith, he loved Jimmy Durante.

    Code:
    FNVTE JQHES ZGMSD CVXUL DJIUM
    DGTHL PSWDR RVHSY NMGFA DQLZJ
    HWBUZ UIIQI XZCWW NWSCN MLQLS
    YTVLB SFXJJ WEWRQ TZCZB MWTIH
    BCWUC CNDNR IIXIX JSZZH CAQZA
    LFPTS GOWIU LURCW CKWJE PMYOA
    XZQAW BOGPC XVMMP PWIFL GXWJU
    OAGEW ENUBB XHESH UBNTQ TXQZZ
    LMIPW THRHV GHYSJ SNMJW NJCZC


    *Questions from WIR's email: Why was Smith at Redentore in July of 2006? Why is Venice important.

    *Photograph of the Porch of the Caryatids (at the Acropolis) proclaiming itself to be stegged. Photograph also boasts further illegible text and a CIA cornerstamp. The solution probably leads to the further hidden information/photos mentioned by WIR.

    *Cipher-text posted on WIR's blog, along with "Remember who came first and who starred in the movie. And tell Red.":

    Code:
    WPOYJ PWVLJ WVAZJ ZPSYW JHVPZ
    VBFFQ HFQIB PSWSW POELJ WVSZO
    SRHDP LSVLF HOSYP FYHPG SMSTJ
    ZPJZA FDWHP NVLSZ OSZOM FVFVL
    PLSVE LFYJB JHHRP BPSWJ ZMVLP
    ESGPZ FFZPP HEPQS ZQFGP FWJBJ
    HHHPS CP


    *How does the government fit into this? Mario mentions in his letter to Smith that he is "Mob" and Smith is "Government Goon". WIR mentions "their" use of The Patriot Act , and the latest photo of the Caryatid Porch of the Erechtheion has a CIA cornerstamp.


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And humor me here, but..........

    *What the hell does Frosty the Snowman have to do with all of this? Living Snowman/Living Statue?


Note: The comment WIR made in an email about there being "many ways to crack a walnut" makes me think that the code is not Vigenere.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:19 pm
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DarthBunny
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 Nice Lists

Wow, very nice lists everyone. Kind of depressing through because there seems to be so much unsolved... but at least its in an organised way now.

I actually have nothing to add except that after obtaining almost evey de-stegging tool in existence I have not managed to find anything in steg1.jpg (including Frosty related passwords, the To Have and Have Not suggestions, Redentore, smith, Q, Blessed are the meek, Tuesdays, K-47 etc). Further suggestions I'm happy to try (these are my first ever destegs, so possibly I am not reliable). Also using another steg tool on the earlier bmp, just in case.

I too am leaning away from Vigenere, only because I never want to enter another Vigenere keyword in my life. That said I've also (rather randomly, mind you) tried almost every other cipher I can find (using http://members.aon.at/cipherclerk/CipherClerk.html) without much luck.

Also looked for code references in a Beautiful Mind plot descriptions and John Nash biographies, but the code part of the film seems to be hallucination.

We almost need a list of ciphers tried/code words...

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:28 pm
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lips together and blow

I still think putting your lips together and blow mentioned in tandem with WiR's words about "the works of Jimmy Durante before the frosty animation" could allude to the movie "Land without Music" (US release title: Forbidden Music) where he played the character Jonah J Whistler.


In other newbie news here, I finally did a tutorial on stegging/destegging and have been playing with Camouflage program. Now to find those nasty keys!!


"Who Came First" was a Pete Townshend album and they did make some kind of DVD about it, so I guess Pete Townshend starred in it. doubt it would be that easy though LOL

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Zion
conspiracy theories

Since I just got in on this this week, I was wondering did anyone ever follow up on this line:

    Isaiah 14:29-32
    Zionism mentioned on the conspiracy theory page
    The Arabic/Farsi letter.


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Mario & Tonio's voice mail
phone call.

Ok, I had an online friend of mine's husband call (He was born in Rome), and she emailed me back and said:
Quote:

My husband called this morning and couldn't understand the whole thing but here is what he pieced together.
Quote:

Hi, It's mom ... Please leave your name here. ........ I'm Olivieri. Now I live in San Francisco. Please leave a message and I'll get back to you.

The dots represent something my husband couldn't get. The person is definitely not a native speaker. It was very odd Italian. My husband also mentioned that Olivieri is a common Italian last name.




Definitely Olivieri but I guess that's like Smith in Italy. Sorry I couldnt bring anything new to the table with my friend's husband's translation.

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Another Movie allusion
movie quote

Ok, no one's still working on this or is everyone on Spring Break?? Wink

I had another thought after looking at the jpg named "steg1.jpg" on the Pinelli Files site.... The first paragraph under it says

Quote:
This is the one photo that Q gave me. He told me it was only the beginning.


if you think of it like this : --- He told me, "It was only the beginning."

-----that a line from DOUBLE INDEMNITY. (starring Fred MacMurray, Barbara Stanwyck, and Edward G. Robinson)
eta: that would be the first one, not the remakes that came later.


What do you all think?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:45 pm
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I'm still working on it, but I haven't made any progress.
I can't figure out the password to the presumably stegged photo, nor can I decode the two puzzles we have been given. I'm hoping others who have more ARG experience can help us out.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:53 pm
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Based on the letter frequencies of the code on the WiR's website, I think that this code is a simple monalphabetic substitution, and that the letter spacing is simply there to throw us off. I think this is especially true considering that the last block only has two letters. The letter P appears 22 times -- maybe it stands for E?

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DB, why cant I "IM" you ??? ;-D

I've found this site http://www.richkni.co.uk/php/crypta/index.php
recently and it seems nice... and I was also looking at straight cryptogram type of solution... what do you think of the first three letters being RED?


eta... really, i'm very good with those cryptograms in the newspaper and in puzzle books... but i never realized that knowing the length of the words HELPS SOOOO MUCH. just a big pile of letters is really difficult to solve when they're all running together... i imagine if i'm pulling my hair out now over this "simple" first one... then i might not be cracked up for these kinds of games...sigh...

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Ive been following this one but havn't posted yet because, to be honest, ive been beaten to everything i've come up with.

Out of pure frustration and bearing in mind all the film references we have been given, I looked up Woman in Red on IMDB. There are a couple of movies with that title. The first in 1935 starring Barbara Stanwyck ( the only connection I could find was she and Jimmy Durante were both edited into a christmas movie in like 2003 or something, and both actors died in Santa Monica. The second ws made in 1945, with another working title of 'My Name Is Julia Ross'. Where the directors surname is Lewis (as in redford lewis). Probably coincidence but thought id point it out.

I have tried every possible password I can think of to try and desteg the pictures to no avail and I don't know about everyone else but I am becoming seriously tired of these coded messages now. They are either way to hard to figure out or so obvious its being overlooked. Also, it seems like to long since we have heard from redford or WIR. Seems a shame if this one has burnt out before anything has really been solved. Rolling Eyes

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 Cracked cipher!!!

Sorry for the double post but....Woohoo, I never figure anything out first.
Cipher on pinellis page translates to:

RED PIER THIRTY NINE APRIL TEN TWO OCLOCK WEAR A RED SHIRT AND A BLUE HAT HOLDING A PEOPLE MAGAZINE IN YOUR LEFT HAND AND GO TO THE HAT SHOP I WILL BE WEARING THE SAME NOONE ELSE CAN COME OR I WILL LEAVE.

It was just a letter replacement cipher, not sure haw much use it is to us. Ill try to do the other one now. Very Happy

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Oooh, well done! So where does that get us?

Pier 39 is a tourist attraction in San Francisco. So that fits.

April ten was yesterday. Hopefully something will be updated soon, to tell us what happened.
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