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What's happening? Where do we stand?
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sjct
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imbri, please don't feel like your request is being ignored and I don't want to be mean but -- get real. You can't expect to jump into a game at this point – five months into a six-month game -- and expect it to be gift-wrapped in a couple of paragraphs. That might be possible with some previous arg's but not this one. Just listing the cast of characters and their relationships would take a couple of paragraphs. If I attempted to list all the puzzles that would take another page or two. And the web pages – the endless stream of clever, artful web pages -- it just can't be done. And any attempt to do so would be lacking the awe-struck moments when the bizarre plot twisted beyond what anyone imagined in their best, wildest specs. Dave has created a masterpiece and the folks who are are complaining are the same sort that say, "I don't understand," at the end of the The Two Towers.

CTW has required a commitment, a total immersion from its players and a lot us have given it hours of our lives every day since before it began. Like a lot of things in life, you get out what you put in. I've been obsessed so I've kept up. I've been rewarded for my investment in time and attention ten-fold. Am I confused? Yes. But I'm supposed to be confused at this point! It's wicked and obsessive and it's blown my mind about a dozen times. This has been one hellava wild ride and it's not over yet! Sorry you missed it. Guess you'll have to wait for the book.

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 		Personal attacks are unwarranted. If you don't want to be mean, don't. In fact, please don't here regardless of whether you want to or not.

I'm pretty sure even War and Peace has a blurb on the back cover. Perhaps someone else has the writing and analysis ability to sum up for us? We can check the QuickRef forum for the complete cast list/site list/etcetera, so I don't think that kind of detail is at all necessary.

Hopefully yours... Razz
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sjct
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SpaceBass wrote:
Personal attacks are unwarranted. Razz


In what way did I make a personal attack? I fail to see that in anything I said. If someone has not played the game, that was their choice. To want to jump in now is impossible. Is that an insult? I don't think so. Imbrii made a choice. And everyone is entitled to decide how they spend their time. I have devoted mine to CTW, imri hasn't. No value judgement here. Just, sorry, you missed it. It's been great. I have enjoyed it because I paid attention. Others have been left behind because they didn't. That is not a fault in the game or my fault for pointing it out.

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MageSteff
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 		Re: What's happening? Where do we stand?
imbri wrote:
Maybe the highlights or a best of. Can it be done in a couple paragraphs?

Anyone? Anyone?


OK.I'm willing to try, Imbri, just remember this is a freebie and you get what you pay for Exclamation Laughing

For those of you who have joined this merry chase in the middle like I did, well, just know there is a lot of stuff to cover, and if you want the joy of solving all the puzzles yourself, you should check out the guides and clues and bypass this in its entirety (by the way did I mention I'm not very good at spelling, and I love my e-mail spell checker? NO? Oh horrors Exclamation Laughing )

Meet Dale Sprague. He's you average joe in the high tech world of web design. After leaving a company he started with his long time friend Bruce (anonymousfame), he takes on the world with his own creation Syntasia.com. But wait there's more Exclamation You see he had to borrow some money to start his little company, and well, bank rates being what they are he decides to go with the same method used at Anonymous Fame, namely loan sharks. One loan shark in particular, Don Marzano who hides behind his legitamate buisnesses (Sons of Don and Empty Threats). Well poor Dale gets in over his head, and he is afraid his wife Diana will find out, leading to a messy divorce and alternate weekends with his beloved daughter Meaghan. After one last happy time at an amusment park (but wait there's more to that park!) He and Diana have a big argument. She takes Meaghan and goes to visit her parents, Dale stays home and visits with Mr. Shotgun.
BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation
Before Dale can consumate his relationship with Mr. Shotgun, in steps this rather shady individual, who tells Dale, "Hurry up now you get one wish, what'll it be, time's a wastin' I got better things to do, by the way you won't remember any of this after I grant the wish."
Well, Dale makes his wish... well, really two wishes, to have enough money and that his wife will never find out what kind of trouble he was really in. But THE WISH, doesn't quibble over sematics. Next thing Dale knows he's in the hospital recovering from a three day coma, his wife and child dead in a fiery auto accident (well, we suppose so, but no one has actually identified bodies at this point), and to top it all off he remembers making the wish. Uh oh... Now we have trouble.
We got six fingered fortune tellers at amusment parks that turn into cemeteries and vice versa, we got mysterious guides coming out of the woodwork, we got adopted odd children disappearing but hanging around to whisper warnings into telephones, Dead Eye Guys that not everyone can see, we got Grand Juries conviening to look into everyones shady past, odd shopkeepers (Yes, I mean you Wes), flying books, self painting walls, breaking crockery, paranormal investigators, crazy tourist teenagers, did I mention his wife was pregnanat at the time she died, and we got Everyone, and I do mean Everyone chasing Dale for information and clues.

So far all the clues have lead us deeper into both mysticism and physics, multiple worlds and faery folk.

And as for poor Dale he hasn't got a flying F**k of an idea. All he know is, his wife and daughter is dead when they are not supposed to be, everyone is chasing him, he has to collect three objects and enough information to use them to do....
Well now, there's the sixty-four thousand dollar question, isn't it?
We suppose it will allow Dale to make another wish to set everything back on the proper couse, but nothing in the rulebook (oh wait there isn't really a rule book for this is there) says that is what will happen. For all I know, as Puck* says

Quote:
And now, if any are offended with this story of fairies and their pranks, as judging it incredible and strange, they have only to think that they have been asleep and dreaming, and that all these adventures were visions which they saw in their sleep: and I hope none of my readers will be so unreasonable as to be offended with a pretty harmless Midsummer Night's Dream.*


This is all a creation of poor Dale's comatose mind... and the path he take's to wake up.

*William Shakespeare, A Midsummer Night's Dream


/me rocks on heels.

So... Imbri.... how'd I do? Laughing Laughing

EDIT: Oh, sorry, I left out the most recent turn of events...
Namely being the death of the respected JD Willingham, the town Attorney. Dale and the News reporter and her photog from Channel 8 are all missing, no one know what Sal is up to, Phyllis is grieving, Agatha the Ice librarian melts, and Everyone is still LOOKING FOR DALE!
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sjct
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imbri wrote:
sjct,

I wasn't expecting it wrapped in a neat little bow. Far from it. I was and am willing to do the work to catch up. {...}I do not think that is too much to ask.


That actually is too much to ask. Any summary, at this point, would be based on pure spec. Perhaps, some newcomer will venture to give you the full scoop and they will be wrong. I'm being honest with you and completely respectful. You have missed the experience, the obsession and complete immersion that have been attained by others. You will not catch up with Sunny's relationships with characters. You will not figure out a spec that beats Valas' wild rides. You are free to watch what the rest of us do but you have missed the boat. If that is a personal attack, I'm sorry you and others take it that way. I am really trying to spare you false expectations and wasted effort.

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MageSteff
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sjct wrote:
I am really trying to spare you false expectations and wasted effort.


*Sigh* I think what was meant was "give me an idea what this is about so I can see if it intregues me enough to expend the effort you feel is necessary. By starting late, so close to the possible "endgame" what will pique me enough to make me WANT to invest in reading all the accumulated information.

If a synopsis is enough to turn someone off then perhaps it is someone who would regret putting any time into it without knowing what was coming. This way, they at least know what may be involved. Some people like mysteries, but they hate anything that smacks of alternative religions or religious ideas. Honey, I'm a christian but I'm willing to discuss Kabbalah and the eight fold path with everyone, if they want. I'm not afraid of it. But a lot of people are. <shrugs> There's my free opinion, once again take it how you will, the quality of the discussion is worth exactly what you are willing to invest in it.
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 		I paid attention and I'm still lost.

Really I did.

I missed a couple of pertinent email because some of it is indeed very hard to wade through for some people.In other words I scanned...and missed a couple of points. My fault? Yes.

I've enjoyed CTW immensly at times, but I don't think imbri's request is unreasonable. I, for one, would welcome a short synopsis...as I am confused about some plot development and without asking just tend to get more so.

I have a limited amount of CTW alloted time, so I try to keep up as best as possible....but it doesn't always work.

I (and probably some others) are not trying to jump into CTW in month 5/6....I've been here but am still confused.Maybe I'm just stupid...or maybe no one knows what's going on.In either case just say so. Smile

I thought I had the story-line straight until I was corrected a couple of times in chat...now I wonder if I have any of it straight. And believe me it makes me feel incredibly dense.

~cem

Edit*** Sorry was dealing with kids and didn't realize the discussion had progressed while I had my window open, but will leave my post as an opinion.

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sjct wrote:
I am really trying to spare you false expectations and wasted effort.


How can you say that? Do you know for sure that Imbri can't solve something that maybe noone else can? I thought that this was more about everyone being able to be involved, even if they have real jobs and real lives away from the computer. I've been mostly lurking because I don't have the time to have email relationships with everyone in the game. I do receive emails from Sam.
I'm not attacking you but basically what you're saying is that we can't play anymore because we weren't there 10 hours a day, 7 days a week. I don't believe that's right. Confused
Some of the smaller pieces of storyline may be missed but there is still things left to be done. Noone should be turned away or told "sorry better luck next time"

ps, Magesteff, thank you!
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sjct
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 		Well, you know, magesteff, I really credit you for coming in late to the game and catching up but you still don't know how to spell "synthasia" correctly. Good luck to you and I hope your spec is right on. But encouraging someone to be "intrigued" at this point is riduculous! And just a bit insulting to all of us who have played along so far. It's like someone asking for crib notes before a final exam.

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Sunny du Pree
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 		yet another opinion about ARGs
sjct wrote:
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CTW has required a commitment, a total immersion from its players and a lot us have given it hours of our lives every day since before it began. Like a lot of things in life, you get out what you put in. I've been obsessed so I've kept up. I've been rewarded for my investment in time and attention ten-fold. Am I confused? Yes. But I'm supposed to be confused at this point! It's wicked and obsessive and it's blown my mind about a dozen times. This has been one hellava wild ride and it's not over yet! .


I will have to say that I agree with sally with the above points. I have been very fortunate to be able to stick with the game from beginning to end and while the puzzles escape my grasp for the most part(ok for all of the part lelellelelele!!!!) It has been the story that has kept me going thru it all. When it first started I felt like something was missing that we were missing something and then I became more persistant and creative in my emails to the charecters then the story just exploded. Like letting the charecters know what I felt about what was going on and the like. But the combination of persistance and creativity blending with the immersive reality of the game seemed to work extremely well for me. When Dave does another one he can count me in. To top it off I have learned more. Too bad you cant get college credit for ARGs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU DAVE FOR A MOST SATISFYING EXPERIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!
And as for peeps catching up it aint over till the fat lady sings!

(personally I think BTS means Better Than Sex!! lelellele) Laughing Laughing Laughing
ok I opened myself up for a joke let me have it!!!! Twisted Evil
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sjct wrote:
It's like someone asking for crib notes before a final exam.


so what? Unless the game is grading on a Bell curve, your score will not be affected by my used of a cheat sheet. (will it? are you all competing for some prize?) If a game could actually be circumvented and "won" by someone walking in with a synopsis, then it wasn't a very complex game, now was it?

I suspect that this person is so riled up because they DID invest too much time themselves, and are now angry at people who went off and did other things with their time.

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 		dparadise20, "smaller pieces of storyline," who is to judge? Anyone is free to do whatever they want. I'm not stopping anyone from doing anything. I'm just saying it's a little too late to catch up on the story. Missing a couple of weeks like you did is not the same as jumping in at the end.

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 		catherwood, I have been having an experience. And I wish others had that full immersion and they didn't and they won't. I have a satisfiying real life -- thank you very much for the inference -- but that has nothing to do to with this issue. Talk about personal attacks... very clever. Now address the fact that someone coming in now will be hopelessly lost trying to catch up on this game.

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dparadise20 wrote:
sjct wrote:
I am really trying to spare you false expectations and wasted effort.

How can you say that? Do you know for sure that Imbri can't solve something that maybe noone else can?
ps, Magesteff, thank you!


Imbri, www.greywethers.net please. I bet you can solve it Very Happy

BTW, check out Varin's site. That's more than a summary (if you don't want a quick version of catch up and if you have questions that are left hanging). And you did a great job Mage. Thanks for the highlights. Very Happy
http://www.varin.org/portal/html/modules.php?name=Content&pa=list_pages_categories&cid=3
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 		GOT HELP?
I just want to add that I dont think it is too late for someone to enjoy this CTW game who needs to catch up.....
This game is supposed to be about working together and that means EVERYBODY new and old.
For those of you who are confused and need updating or have a question about the story line PLEASE DO NOT HESISTATE TO ASK ME AND NO NEED TO BE EMBARESSED. Embarassed You are more than welcome to email me and I will try to answer your confusions to the storyline...if I dont know then I will find out.
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