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NoMoreParents.com: viral ad or future ARG trailhead?
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OmegaX
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Caterpillar wrote:
OmegaX wrote:
Vaguely reminds me, from the text posted in the original post combined with the url, uf an old(er) young adult book series "Countdown". All the adults die (hence nomoreparents?), etc. Can't recall if there were solar flares or not.


I think this is a fair call. The series of 12 books (January-December) definitely has a hefty helping of ARGibility TM with the whole apocolyptic good vs evil slant. So it could be the basis for something like this (a little too early to tell, but it sure fits with what little is known)

There was also a coded script within the book's plot and a $2000 sweepstakes giveaway.

And the phrase "you told me mom and dad ran away" suggests the possibility of siblings (Sarah & Josh)

And solar flares it were...

<snip>


Thank you for backing up my theory! I thought I might be the only one who thought that, what with no one saying anything about it until now. Well, despite the fact that the books took place towards the turn of the millennium, here's hoping it's at least something similar.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:11 pm
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Okay - first off - no laughing Wink

I know squat about programming, so can someone tell me if the following is standard language or a type of identifier unique to this website:

html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"

If it's some sort of "business as usual" then just forget I was here, but if it's unique then the "1999" could further support the possibility for a basis in the Countdown novels.

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Just visit that string as a link, and I think your question will be answered.
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I did actually visit it prior to posting the question.

It was entirely Greek to me, which is why I asked the question in the first place, along with the tongue-in-cheek "no laughing" directive. I was a bit embarrassed to post the question in the first place, but figured that anyone who knew me would know that if I was asking a stupid question it was precisely because I didn't know the answer.

Wink

/but I'm really good at needlepoint

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Shutaro
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Caterpillar wrote:
html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"


XMLNS stands for XML Name Space... It's a standard header on most XML documents.

And I quote:

Quote:

An XML Namespace is a W3C recommendation for providing uniquely named elements and attributes in an XML instance. An XML instance may contain element or attribute names from more than one XML vocabulary. If each vocabulary is given a namespace then the ambiguity between identically named elements or attributes can be resolved.

All element names within a namespace must be unique.

A simple example would be to consider an XML instance that contained references to a customer and an ordered product. Both the customer element and the product element could have a child element "ID_number". References to the element ID_number would therefore be ambiguous unless the two identically named but semantically different elements were brought under namespaces that would differentiate them.


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TL waves to Dan. Welcome back, buddy.
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OmegaX
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Any news on this? Inquiring minds want to know!

Or can I just assume that no post = no news?
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Greetings folks. Long time no post.

I did some digging around late last week. Didn't find anything earth-shattering, but here goes:

Daniel Parker, the author of the "Countdown" series, is actually a pseudonym for Daniel Ehrenhaft, who writes young adult fiction. He has a website ( http://www.danielehrenhaft.com/), but there doesn't seem to be any indication that he has anything new coming out soon.

Based on the content of the links on filicide, it all seems (to me, at least) a little too gruesome to be connected with a book for teenagers.

While on the subject, all of the links reference parents killing their offspring. Except pomc.org, which is is an organization for parents whose children have been murdered - not necessarily by their parents. Hmm.

The "scribbled" frame of each flare appears to be all twelve of the flare questions superimposed.

Also found (via my resident webmonkey) that http://www.nomoreparents.com actually redirects to http://www.nomoreparents.com/index.php (found by trial and error) which presumably is a server-side script that autogenerates the page on loading. It appears that the only variation is which "flare" it chooses.

The icons on the flare directory page ( http://www.nomoreparents.com/flares) can be directly accessed (i.e. http://www.nomoreparents.com/icons/image2.gif) - this seems to indicate it's a unix server, as windows servers (according to webmonkey) store standard icons outside of the web directory.

Spot-googles of some of the phrases in the comments and some of the flare questions didn't produce anything useful.

nomoreparents.blogspot.com (and nomoreparents.net, a redirect to the former) appear to be unrelated. (The author even complains that nomoreparents.com was already taken).

Unless there is more to be determined from the links, I don't think there's anything else to go on until so-called "Spring 2007" arrives.

simokon

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simokon wrote:

Unless there is more to be determined from the links, I don't think there's anything else to go on until so-called "Spring 2007" arrives.


It's coming on the end of April - March, April, and May are generally considered "spring." Unless the website/owners are from the southern hemishpere in which case we'll have to wait until September/October/November. o_o

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simokon
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Are we a go?

"Spring" must be here. The page has a few minor updates.

A new link to the metafilter page wondering what the site is supposed to be,
"Spring 2007" has been replaced with "HUGS danny!!! Welcome back!!!!", and some letters are missing from the "solar flares" comment (list is "atsibro", which I haven't made anything of yet).

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Re: Are we a go?

simokon wrote:
"Spring" must be here. The page has a few minor updates.

A new link to the metafilter page wondering what the site is supposed to be,
"Spring 2007" has been replaced with "HUGS danny!!! Welcome back!!!!", and some letters are missing from the "solar flares" comment (list is "atsibro", which I haven't made anything of yet).


Okay, that is a direct quote of the post *I* made here in this thread (on the first page, about 2 down from the beginning).

Nothing much new in the original blog on which "danman d" reported he first found the site.
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new e-mail

Yikes... the nomoreparents guys are good at making me feel like i'm being stalked, while making everyone else assume i'm a shill Smile

I got this in the e-mail this morning:

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To: danSPLATcognitiveharmony.net
From: IllegitiminoncarborundumSPLATnomoreparents.com
Subject: orbitas
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 10:51:48 -0700

hey buddy, are we still on for june 17th?


Can you say launch date?

The 'from' e-mail quotes from my unfiction signature, so it appears we're being watched. *waves*

Here's the e-mail with full headers:

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From - Tue May 15 12:01:38 2007
X-Account-Key: account2
X-UIDL: 0MKono-1Ho1Be1Dvm-0002d5
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
Return-Path: <Illegitiminoncarborundum>
Delivery-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:51:51 -0400
Received-SPF: none (mxus5: 68.142.198.204 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of nomoreparents.com) client-ip=68.142.198.204; envelope-from=Illegitiminoncarborundum@nomoreparents.com; helo=smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com;
Received: from [68.142.198.204] (helo=smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com)
by mx.perfora.net (node=mxus5) with ESMTP (Nemesis),
id 0MKono-1Ho1Be1Dvm-0002d5 for danSPLATcognitiveharmony.net; Tue, 15 May 2007 13:51:50 -0400
Received: (qmail 13659 invoked from network); 15 May 2007 17:51:49 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.14?) (jhendlerSPLATsbcglobal.net@76.168.251.115 with plain)
by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 May 2007 17:51:49 -0000
X-YMail-OSG: vWIEsuMVM1m_47vdIV45YW54yv_C2e.a3EvRQSYzSradFY4TxEo7nxn3VkPLPK3DCw8.wxNwTQ--
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-Id: <504B6B9D>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
To: danSPLATcognitiveharmony.net
From: IllegitiminoncarborundumSPLATnomoreparents.com
Subject: orbitas
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 10:51:48 -0700
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2)
Envelope-To: dannySPLATcognitiveharmony.net

hey buddy, are we still on for june 17th?

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The word in the subject line - orbitas - is made from the missing letters in the message on nomoreparents.com. It fits the celestial theme. Solar flares reaching the earth when it's at a certain location in its orbit around the sun, perhaps on June 17th or would that be reading too much into it? Preparation for the June solstice?

Orbitas is a Spanish word, though. Perhaps a link to some solar initiation trips to South America. There are several sites of companies that organise such things and they all seem to be connected. Probably way off target, though. I put in June 17th at Solar System Live and there's nothing special about the position of the planets, at least not that I can see.

June 17th is Father's Day, so that might connect to the filicide theme.

Since orbitas was an anagram of the missing letters, what about the name of the site itself?

By the way, the link to that ask.metafilter page danman_d posted in his first message is also included in the source code. Wasn't mentioned yet. Strange that the "POMC" link has been removed ... Wouldn't have known about it if I hadn't read older messages about this.

Any clues regarding "Victor"?

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good call on the missing letters... I, too, googled orbitas and came up with no solid conclusion for what we should be finding. shrug.

The only other possible puzzle, which I've been staring at to no avail, might be in the meta tag:

Code:
<meta NAME="TITLE" CONTENT="no more parents no morepare ntsnomorepar entnomrpts">


Very odd spacing and missing letters (the last one is missing OEAREN). Any ideas?
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One other thought... Back when I used to PM, we used to worry that people would stumble upon in-game sites and be interested, but never realize that there was an entire community of people working on it. That explains why the PM's might want to link visitors to the original metafilter post.

It also might explain why they included the "HUGS danny" quote: people could google the phrase and find this unfiction thread. However, I just googled it, with quotes, and didn't get this thread returned as a result. Shrug.
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