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[danman_d]

Yay, message from Hope!

I had posted on her Myspace:

[Schrijvertje]

Good work, guys! Don't have much to add. You already figured it all out.

I've got a message from Hope as well, after I enquired about "The Pink Hour". She doesn't say anything about it, though.

[danman_d]

Hmm... i got distracted by the kisses and hugs and missed the fact that she signed my message

[Schrijvertje]

I mentioned Mount Wilson Observatory in a reply to Hendler's latest blog. I said I found it while doing my own solar flare research, mentioned they do solar research there and ended with "I'm sure you're familiar with this facility."

If Hope is visiting someone there who knows about her and her dad, Dr. Hendler might know about that person as well, and might even know he's working there. If that's the case, this should generate a positive response.

Chances are, though, if this person is a fellow scientist, he might have different views on the subject material, which might aggravate Hendler even more. Well, nothing else to do, I suppose.

[fizzcharlson]

As noted she very briefly flashes a document before the camera and though it is very difficult to make anything out I can at least see:

[fizzcharlson]

I have no idea if this is of interest either but it would seem that Haramokngna recently held a vast Summer Solstice celebration but of more importance it seems it did so in conjunction with an organisation known as Redbird. Redbird it seems is an organisation for promoting the "...Awareness and Celebration of Indigenous Cultures and People Creating A Substainable Future..." and whilst this may be of no interest it may explain the incongruent Red Birds video on Hope's youtube account. Maybe we were fed a subtle clue there?

PS I know it's boring to keep doing this but Hope has added "Give me your leotards" as a myspace friend. Would this be one of us by any chance?

[thetownbike]

[Schrijvertje]

Noticed that summer solstice celebration but when I wanted to view the pdf flyer, my browser crashed. Yes, Redbird is too much of a coincidence.

[Mokey Fraggle]

[marnut]

pink hour

[Mokey Fraggle]

Marnut, nothing to add right now but to say that I love your avatar.

[Schrijvertje]

Hope mentioning Yosemite is simply because I showed her that pic of Half Dome in my message to her. Could just as easily have been the Hoover Dam. I don't think Yosemite is important, only the last part of her reply: "that peculiar moment of stunning color". She has a thing for sunsets.

About Hope's latest video. What about that gate with which it ends? What is it? Where does it lead to? It doesn't look like it's part of the observatory, where we thought she was heading.

[fizzcharlson]

I've been looking at the video again and from my understanding of some of the more fleeting images Hope drives into a complex that clearly states it is for authorised persons only - it appears to me that she isn't simply on a sight seeing tour but may have a more professional mandate for being there other than seeing a friend maybe? I'm wondering Schrijvertje if it really is a gate, in frame by frame you can allmost see a roof which makes me wonder if it's a bunker of some form.

I must admit I'm agreeing with Mokey in a big way, I don't think clues are being given to us in the form of cryptograms or encoded audio clues as has been suggested but in some form of thematic message as revealed by the videos - something like a rebus maybe or something more conceptual than cold hard code. It certainly has a resonance of an episode of Lost to me, the slow unveiling of a greater mystery.

I'm also in agreement with marnut that there's some hefty nods to personal politics along the way and it certainly can't be discounted that the schism between Hope and Hendler is simply down to am incompatible liberalism rather than some maniacal plot or diabloic action on one or either part. I know Mokey mentioned that she wondered if there was a message in the music and I think it might support Manut's theory about political divide. I know very little of the Dixie Chicks as they are virtually unknown here in the UK save to say that I believe 'I'm not ready to make Nice' was their response to the savage condemnation they received in some quarters for holding liberal views with regards to G W Bush and the invasion of Iraq. Seems to fit nicely with the ideas expressed.

PS I'm really stressed about the leotards! (Only joking thetownbike )

*WILD MUSINGS ALERT* I'm also chewing over the idea that this may have some links with Native American Theology as hinted at currently. I have found a Native American Starlore site hosted by the Western Washington University Planitarium and amongst the plethora of planetary realted lore there is a story which is an analogy of the passage of the sun through the sky. It tells the story of a jealous Sun who decides to kill the inhabitants of the earth by sending I assume solar flares to cause fevers. Unfortunately the suns daughter ends up dead and the sun is caused to grieve upon which the daughter is transformed into a red bird. Ultimately all is well but with themes of solar flares, daughters, fevers, redbirds, the death of children etc. all appearing I wondered if we are seeing something based on a theological exegesis rather than a scientific one.
Like I said - wild musings.

[Schrijvertje]

Now that sounds interesting indeed! Good job, Fizz!

Meanwhile, I've listened to the songs in Hope's last video. Here's the list of the lyrics in the order of appearance:

1. "Love Child" by Diana Ross

[fizzcharlson]

That's some stunning aural detective work Schrijvertje, must have taken ages. I could barely catch any of the lyrics in the first track played.
So thematically we're back to the parental estrangement link. Here's hoping time will elucidate upon the reason for that schism.
You see, I'm thinking that neither character comes across as disagreeable, Hendler seems genuinely concerned about his daughters wellbeing and Hope seems a charming, educated, attractive young lady. There's hardly any real clue as to the nature of their conflict despite the glaring lack of a maternal element to their family life.
As Doggett once said "...dollars to doughnuts the Mother's the key..."