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[PUZZLE TRAIL] "Torment"
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torrentman
Greenhorn

Joined: 11 May 2007
Posts: 3

 		thanks for the pm's guys!!!

Thats kind of what I figured.

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:56 pm
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writerjoel
Boot

Joined: 10 May 2007
Posts: 23

 		After being left to "rot"
These are Mayan glyphs?

Someone PM me how to read these coordinates, please!

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:12 pm
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torrentman
Greenhorn

Joined: 11 May 2007
Posts: 3

 		dangit. K I need more help on the rosary.

I can't rearrange these words to mean anything. I found a program to help out but it gave me way too many results to look through.

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:28 pm
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Chuck
Greenhorn

Joined: 08 May 2007
Posts: 6

 		Program for your "Toolbox"
Use your friend, search for "Cryptool" Download it, Install it. You'll be glad you did!

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:35 pm
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Chuck
Greenhorn

Joined: 08 May 2007
Posts: 6

 		Another Good One
Another tool for your box: WinDecrypto
If you like doing things the hard way, don't use it.

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:39 pm
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writerjoel
Boot

Joined: 10 May 2007
Posts: 23

 		Holy F--wooden blocks????
Allright, just got to the wooden blocks page. Has anyone solved this? No hints...yet. Just want to know it's possible.

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 2:13 am
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writerjoel
Boot

Joined: 10 May 2007
Posts: 23

 		anyone? anyone?
All right, I've been researching block ciphers, for obvious reasons if you've gotten to the wooden blocks ciphertext. If we have to understand the actual equations of all that, I'm doomed.

But here's what I can tell.
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If the rotations of the blocks mean something, then the letters aren't letters: They're numbers. Specifically a number between 1 and (26 letters * 4 sides of a block). Factor in the snails, and each block now represents a number between 1 and (104 * 4). So each block represents a number between 1 and 416.

Taking our cue from the earlier circle cipher, we know our sequence probably begins with a snail, putting the start of the sequence down in the lower right.

That would make the first block an upright (rotated to 1st position) S (the 19the letter) from a sequence begun by a 4-rotated snail:

4 * 1 * 19 = 76

So here's my questions:

Does this mean that, whatever letter that first S represents, a later S rotated to 2nd position preceded by a 2-rotated snail MUST be the same letter?

Does that mean that a T in a 4 * 1 * 20 configuration MUST represent the same letter as a J in a 4 * 2 * 10 position?


PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:53 am
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sushiknight
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 		Herring
I've just made my way through a series of da Vinci paintings to end up at a self portrait of da Vinci himself. Now I'm stuck. Is this a red herring trail as I notice no-one else seems to be dealing with these paintings.

If so, on which puzzle did I go wrong?

Cheers for any guidance.

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writerjoel
Boot

Joined: 10 May 2007
Posts: 23

 		sushiknight...
The da vinci paintings may have more than their titles for an answer.

but i can't MAR the puzzles with A hint, even if you NAG.

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 2:44 pm
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writerjoel
Boot

Joined: 10 May 2007
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 		It just can't be...
On the wooden blocks--

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the rotation of the letter blocks CAN'T be significant, except as a disguise for the rotations of the snails


PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 2:52 pm
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writerjoel
Boot

Joined: 10 May 2007
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 		or can it?...
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what if the rotation was as simple as an S rotated once is a T, twice is a U, then V and W? The actual letter is still encrypted, but this gets around PHD math, which I'm trying to avoid, with only an ADD degree


If I post enough wild goose chases, guys, grngecko will take pity!

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simokon
Boot


Joined: 06 Aug 2004
Posts: 45
Location: San Jose, CA

 		Hey folks. Was out of town for a few days and fell behind.

I'm dying to help out with these famous blocks, but I'm still hung up on the rosary. I think I get the idea, but I fear that I need a nudge to get the keyword. Anyone?

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writerjoel
Boot

Joined: 10 May 2007
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 		for simokon...
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Sorry. You've been told to mind your manners. So don't mar the puzzle by being a big nag for hints.


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simokon
Boot


Joined: 06 Aug 2004
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Location: San Jose, CA

 		Thank you writerjoel and Chuck. I was close, but not quite close enough.

On to the blocks.

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:17 pm
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writerjoel
Boot

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 		You're too quick to thank us, Simokon
Welcome to the blocks.

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