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Norbeerto · Boot Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Posts: 22

The forums (this and http://tweleve.org/new-hunts-rumors/22156-torment-blocks-30.html) is dead for a while. Or they (us) just working too hard, and we haven't got time to post? Very Happy

I'm searching the connection between the Poe poems and the blocks, but I still got nothing. I hope the "Blocks Community" doing the same.

Best regards

**Posted:** Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:35 pm

Bilal · Boot Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 44 Location: Germany

I have an idea..

What about the ciphers that poe wrote... one is circles but the other???

looks loke the SHADOWs in between the blocks.

Forget all of the turning and look at just the shadows...

**Posted:** Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:43 pm

Norbeerto · Boot Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Posts: 22

I can't fully understand what you mean by that... Question

**Posted:** Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:58 am

will free · Boot Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 10

Hey there; I opened a thread on a spanish forum about Torment. Reached 80 pages in ten days. Half of them dedicated to The Blocks XD

It died, as no noticeable progress was made there. Still, I'll be posting here some of the theories/conclusions/exclusions made up there.

To start, the channel for information wasn't even clearly defined, though it seemed most likely that it was one (or a combination) of each block's:
�Letter
�Color
�Angle

The height of each column (not the amount of blocks, but the image itself) can't determine anything, since I checked out that some have the exact same pixel amount from top to bottom.

The most likely "reading" direction is either downwards or upwards; it sometimes isn't clearly defined which block is directly right or left of other block, so by reading horizontally there would be divergencies no good cyphertext should have.

Blocks' color incidence:

COLUMN1: 7 Red 11 Green 9 Blue
C2: 11 6 3
C3: 9 6 3
C4: 10 4 7
C5: 12 7 4
C6: 9 6 4
C7: 8 3 9
C8: 9 7 2
C9: 12 6 2
C10: 10 3 6
C11: 9 6 3
C12: 12 3 6
C13: 8 7 6
C14: 7 7 7
C15: 11 6 6
C16: 10 7 4
C17: 7 5 4
C18: 7 3 6
C19: 9 4 7
C20: 9 3 9
C21: 11 6 3
C22: 10 6 2
C23: 8 4 8
C24: 6 7 5
C25: 12 3 4

Tot: 233 128 126

So the color proportion is the expected if one would take blocks randomly from the set (remember the original; the amount of blues plus greens equals the reds), maybe with a little less reds. This disencourages me thinking that the color is a channel for the cyphertext.

Exclamation

Well it's past 3am on these parts and I need my beauty sleep. More translations of failured research will follow. Bye.

**Posted:** Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:35 pm

madmorbius · Greenhorn Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 4

I believe it has something to do with the letters that match the orientation of a bunny in a given "block" of text. I've extracted one potential ciphertext, but I don't have a key to decrypt it.

I started by turning the image 90 degrees clockwise to provide an "opening" bunny. Taking only the letters that matched the orientation of the bunny in a given block, I got the following:

**Posted:** Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:16 pm

Bilal · Boot Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 44 Location: Germany

I will try to post the code that I mean... I will be working on it this weekend.

BTW.. Most people tried to rotate and isolate and check the colors the individual blocks...
small consolation there are still from the old school still working on this.
edit****
here is the link... try around pg 20.

http://www.nku.edu/~christensen/section%205%20symbols.pdf

**Posted:** Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:50 pm

madmorbius · Greenhorn Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 4

I don't believe the colors are relevant. They're just colors on the blocks. I'm certain it has to do with the orientation and the bunnies...there are no bunnies pointing RIGHT, because that would see a letter of the alphabet REVERSED.

Norbeerto · Boot Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Posts: 22

Bilal, I've already tried the solution you mentioned, rigtht after I saw the Poe-Shadow connection with this reversed-rotated cipher. Similar but the bunnies only have 3 directions, just Madmorbius said.

**Posted:** Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:36 pm

madmorbius · Greenhorn Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 4

The references to the Shadow (Poe) may have nothing to do with the Poe Cipher. There are other things in that poem.

Why would GG reference LOTR as well if it was as simple as using the Poe Cipher to decrypt? Both were given as clues.

What is the commonality between those two works?

The second clue I'm referencing is "cold be heart and hand and bone. cold be travellers far from home...they do not see what lies ahead, when sun has failed and moon is dead.", as posted by GG on his forums.

**Posted:** Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:20 pm

Norbeerto · Boot Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Posts: 22

"Two Towers? Two Colums? Double Columnar Transposition? WHAT ARE THE KEYS? WHAT IS THE CORRECT CIPHERTEXT?"

I think we all want to know the answers. Cool

**Posted:** Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:54 pm

will free · Boot Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 10

Not related to completion; but does this remind anyone of any stage?

**Posted:** Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:42 pm

Grythyttan · Kilroy Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 1

I don't really think it has much to do with the puzzle. Or at least I don't want to get my hopes up. It's just one of those things where you recognize something and connect the dots in your head. and this one made me jump a bit.

http://stores.ebay.ca/Pats-Closet_Puzzles_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ14QQftidZ2QQtZkm

Look at the names of the puzzles.

**Posted:** Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:11 pm

flames · Kilroy Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1

Hi, I was checking out your puzzle trail and it looks like you got a little lost Wink

I totally agree that childsplay is a red herring, a good giveaway is the music. But I don't think the puzzle is based on anything like rabbits or even the colour of the text. It is probably just a modified version of a particular cipher, such as how towergreen is based on the Voynich manuscript, or how theend is based on the D'Agapeyeff cipher. I really think that this Blocks riddle is based on the Poe cipher here: http://www.bokler.com/eapoe_challengesolution.html

I perceive the blocks puzzle as the following
http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q396/photobucketsucks_99/blox.jpg

Straightaway you notice the difficult frequency of characters. I think what the author has done is use a rotating alphabet system, where letters can be represented differently. This means an alphabet map must be drawn up in a similar way the Poe code was encrypted, which you can find at http://www.bokler.com/poe_broza.pdf

To put it as simply as possible, A could equal an upside down P, then when used next it turns into a Y, then a rotated L. Then when used a fourth time it turns into a P again. eg AAA = PYL

What I think is most revealing is the common re-use of an upside down F. Perhaps this is a 1st use E. If so, the letters in between would count for as 2nd and 3rd use E's - that upside down J looks suspicious too!

I don't think things like the double Q at the very end of the text mean anything. They are probably unrelated letters, such as a 2nd use T followed by a first use U (for example).

Get with the program !! This puzzle is crackable !!

**Posted:** Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:25 pm

Sup3rg1rl · Kilroy Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 1

Torment -Blocks

**Posted:** Mon May 11, 2009 1:52 pm