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[UPDATE] Private messages from Econjen and Y2K
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 		[UPDATE] Private messages from Econjen and Y2K
I PMed all the (remaining) Sentries after the revelation from MKaos about the accidental death of her friends asking if they had similar incidents from their past. To try to get them to share with me, I described some of the traumatic stuff that I had been through in my life.

I'm sure there is a connection among the original sentries that we haven't found.

Y2K didn't add much but poor Jen had a break in at her apartment.

Here is her message:

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Hi Rose -

I'm sorry that I didn't get back to you earlier - work's been crazy and I've been so stressed that I haven't been sleeping all that well. It's not an excuse, really, and I don't want you to take it as one, like I'm just saying it because I just don't want to respond to you or anything. I'm just tired. Not as sharp as I usually am. I think people are noticing that at work. I think they must have some kind of list where they tally up errors and miscues and decide your future based on how many hash marks rest in the space under your name. I'll do something totally spacey on my way home from work, and hope that no one was watching, taking notes, and marking me down for poor performance.

The silence is the worst part of it - not knowing if what you're doing is good, right, wrong, bad - it eats at me. I don't know if that's how it is for you, but I start to think that everything I do is wrong, and then all that seems to fix things for me at that point is a good cry Wink My mom says I carry too much, that I don't share any burdens or stress. She wishes I'd pitch a fit more often instead of waiting until all of the little things I hold onto explode in a fit of burning tears and heaving sobs. I suppose Mom knows best, but I'd never admit that to her Smile

I think my war stories pale in comparison to what you've experienced - I feel silly making any kind of big deal about the past, but my apartment was broken into one night. I didn't hear anything. I woke up and found my place ransacked, things strewn and tossed about, and my door wide open. They had been gone for hours, probably. I was taking something to help me sleep (I was stressed and fretful as usual Confused Why won't my head turn off?), which is the only reason I can think of that I didn't hear them come in. A clean pick of the lock - or they had a key, I don't really know. They took the usual things, like my computer and purse and the electronics they could lift easily and run with.

They took other things, too. Weird stuff. Personal stuff.

My things started showing up on eBay tagged with my name a couple of weeks later - I had some friends that were eBay freaks (they still claim it's the best place to buy shoes) who found them. I felt violated knowing they were in my apartment at all, much less knew my name and decided that they could make a tidy profit off of my underwear, socks, diaries, notebooks from college, pictures of me with friends and professors... God, everything. It was like discovering yourself the centerfold of Playboy, but without remembering ever signing up for it.

I moved. I stopped taking the sleep meds, because I was so afraid someone would come in again. Now I don't sleep because I think every click or shift in the building is someone trying to get in. Someone who's followed me home. I stare at people on the subway, wondering if it was one of them. If they bought something. If they profited off of my loss. It's been worse lately, with all of the stress of losing Kevin and work being shitty. I haven't slept in a couple of days now. I walk faster than usual through the streets, every shadow crossing my path making my heart race a little. Even the echoes of my own footsteps off of the sidewalk make me think I'm being followed.

Hmph. I've babbled entirely too much. I'm so sorry for making you read all about my various hang-ups. Sometimes I really do think they should add Prozac to the water along with the fluoride Razz

I hope you have a good night and sleep well. I'll see you around on the forums -

Jen




from Y2k:

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I just always forget to check the private messages, Rose, because 99% it is someone chewing me out in a level of venom that they felt their dainty public facade didn't allow them. The thought of non-rants in here never occurs to me.


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Nothing in my past like that, Rose. If anything, I tend to over-prepare for disaster and then find myself never needing those provisions.

Art

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 		Good stuff rose. Smile

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 		Re: [UPDATE] Private messages from Econjen and Y2K
More evidence that we aren't focusing on Jen enough. Between this odd story (and hey, with all her techie friends, did she track these thieves down through ebay?) that seems to have enhanced a lifelong paranoia and her "dirty little secret," there's definitely more going on with this girl, and so far she's mostly flown under the radar.
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 		Another PM from jen. I had asked if she was ok

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Hi Rose -

Thank you for the kind words Smile I'm glad I wasn't physically hurt, either. A bit scarred emotionally, but in time, those wounds heal as well as the others.

You don't need to worry about being too blunt Smile I'm pretty blunt myself. I think it comes from working in a male-dominated profession. I have to work the system a bit to spin in my favor.

I don't like the idea that we're all targets, though it does appear that coincidence has been overwhelmed by repetitive data. To be a target means that someone's out there putting us between the crosshairs. I can't imagine who that would be or why they would choose us - we're not *that* exciting Razz Unless we're some kind of experiment or something, but still. That requires a reason to choose us as the population. Or we need to find our Dr Jenner.

Jen

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 		Selling her stuff on Ebay? Knowing her name and personal information? That is far creepier than your usual break in. Sounds like a stalker or someone trying to intimidate her. What is it's someone close to her?

By the way, how did Art know her secrets and a private IM name she uses? Art can be pretty stalker-y.

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 		I got some vague information from Jen in a PM. I sent her this:
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Hi Jen,

I'm sure you've had any number of people contact you about this, but I'm going to add my voice. Art mentioned your "dirty little secret." Is there anything connected to that secret that could in any way feed this whole mess? Or cause you to lose it, too?

If you want or need to talk about it I'll add my voice to those that have probably already offered. Whether you do or not, though, please make sure whatever the secret is won't make you prone to any undue influence from this shit.

WolfHawk


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*sigh* WolfHawk, I had to put myself through school somehow, and my parents weren't the most flush people.


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I understand that, hon. Would any of your clients have gotten angry or upset enough with you to cause this? Maybe someone really got into you and might be stalking you? Trying to separate you from any support group you have so they can move in?

Take care,
WH

No reply yet.

Taking this in conjunction with the information about sleeping through the robbery I am pretty certain someone IS stalking her and may be behind some of this.
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 		I got a response today:
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Ack! Clients? Like... Oh, I'm just not even going there. I was referring to the ginormous student loan debt that I'm not too proud of, and don't talk about. I mentioned it to Art, before. I'm assuming that's what he was referring to. Can't have the economist lacking bank accounts in the black! It does seem more nefarious when you put a different spin on it Now I'm going to obsess over this. Does everyone think I'm some amateur porn star or something? It's coming up with alarming frequency. My boobs are simply not big enough. Maybe if I were a massage therapist on the side or something, but even then I wouldn't say "dark secret." What the hell was he implying?! Shit. Do banks take this kind of action, even for people who aren't paying them off I've already gotten most of one paid off, and another loan was forgiven - If lenders are starting to write malware with bizarre side-effects to get loans repaid, that sounds like more of an investigation for Dateline than for us Maybe I should refinance again.

Porn?!

Jen

So it's nothing more than being an economist with bad debt herself.

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No, hon. When he said "dirty little secret" what were we to think? The only "dirty little secrets" these days are addiction problems whether drugs, sex, (rock and roll!!) gambling, alcohol etc. Let's face it, what "dirty little secrets" have we been exposed to recently? Monica Lewinsky, Mark Foley, Chandra Levy.

Personally, I don't see HOW student loan debts are "dirty little secrets." Nor do I see an overdrawn bank account as one. It's not like you lay your personal financial information out for all your clients to view. Just because you are catching up on loans doesn't mean you don't know your stuff!

Gods, no WONDER we've all been worrying ourselves sick over this!

Unless she visited a loan shark for some of her loans I really don't see this as a "dirty little secret."
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Hey Rose -

I'm starting to get a little worried about us, too. I feel like we're all firing on different aspects of what's going on, and none of us are really talking about what's happened, or what might happen. Marie's pulling out dream symbolism, Art's performing his Y2K bunker act, Howard's... well, his usual self. I'm totally confused and nauseous with dread. I feel like I should be doing something, but what? Man the forums? Pick a side? Prattle on like nothing's wrong? I'm starting to understand how Kevin might have felt, waiting for the inevitable to slink up to the doorstep. Powerless. Lost. Sad. Confused. I really think Prozac should be added to the water like fluoride Confused

I would hate to learn I was the Typhoid Mary that brought everyone at the Outpost down, just because I had a bad lock on my door. They took my computer, but I can't remember what kind of information might have been on there that would lead them here - maybe some cookies and the browser history. I had a lot of papers and essays I had written in school saved on the harddrive, but I could hardly call them interesting.

Dante's funny - I don't think he and Art hit it off too well. His disappearance was emotionally devastating, but I don't think purposeful in malice, do you? He's always been off-putting, but I've never considered him threatening. I don't think. It is always the ones you least expect in the movies, though Razz

And I was not in pron. Nor do I have some kind of crazy gambling problem. My friends in school and I would always bet quarters and beers on our professors - how many minutes would they show up late, how many pages will they assign for an essay, etc. It flowed over into our social lives, too - "bet ya a quarter you won't go ask for her number!" I guess the habit stuck Wink I did take out a number of loans to pay for school - sometimes I refer to it as "whoring myself out" - A few thousand dollars from a lender here, a few other thousand from a lender there. They occasionally had stipulations about academic performance (Lendee is not allowed to get bad grades). There was one that I'm not as proud for taking - it required me to publish a couple of papers that were in favor of their positions. That was probably the dirtiest I got, and it was pretty unethical, but I really needed the money for that last year of grad school, otherwise, I probably wouldn't have made it through, and I definitely wouldn't have had the chance at the job I have now, or at any other funding for projects. I still feel guilty. But I kept my clothes on.

Jen


Here is my PM from Jen. I also want to mention that I am leaving tomorrow for vacation and I will not be online.

She handled the pron and gambling questions, which, really guys, I asked because you wanted me too, but those were challenging things to ask someone about.

She also PMed me this yesterday:

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I'm still wondering if this isn't some scam or attempt at fraud... gone horribly wrong, I guess. I think I would be too scared to keep a scam like this going... does that mean this was the intent? Confused

I not making myself feel any better, but Lucky5 is the only part of the lock we can pick - it may not be the smartest move, but it may be our only chance to catch them before they snag us.

Jen



So it sounds like we need to focus on LucKY 5!!!!
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 		I still have no clue what "pron" means.
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WolfHawk wrote:
I still have no clue what "pron" means.


Porn.

Has she gotten her E-bay junk back yet? Weird, I don't think it's her friends...

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 		And a response to my last PM:
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Blah, I'm all sick over it too I don't want to be a Chandra Levy I've never been comfortable with borrowing money for anything, but you're right - it's not that dirty :p Most of America is in debt somehow. It just makes me wonder if Art was digging at something else And why I'm really starting to not like him so much.


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Is there something else Art could dig at?

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