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Sunny du Pree
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 		Email from Sam Dianas Map
Sunny,
Hi, just a quick note to let you know that I finally got the Trail Map on line
at the Aglaura website. It took a little longer than normal because I had to kind of re-create it for Internet purposes. The actual Trail map posted at
Diana's Grove was too large to take down and scan and didn't photograph well because it is metal. Anyway, I had started this website trail map months ago and just never got around to finishing it. I threw it together pretty quick but at least it's done.From what I understand, the whole Hiking Trail thing has been on hold since Diana Sprague's death. The names of the map for the different picnic areas were the temporary names given by Diana and were to be changed eventually. But, like I said, nothing's really been done on it since. By the way, the incomplete and broken blue lines are not a mistake, that's how they were on the map I copied. I'm guessing it represents areas where the old trail is badly overgrown or
totally lost.OK, I'm still working on the photos from inside the Library so I have to go.
Stay in touch.

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 		Trail Map Names
More or less the Pleiades.

One sister (Celaeno) and the mother (Pleione) omitted, but the
father (Atlas) included.


Chart here.
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 		The names of the picnic areas are from the Pleiades star cluster and also match the placement of the stars there. Also the names of the stars are the seven sisters that Zeus turned to doves to escape Orion which im sure has came up before.
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 		PLieades reminds me of red and blue hand
Geist wrote:
The names of the picnic areas are from the Pleiades star cluster and also match the placement of the stars there. Also the names of the stars are the seven sisters that Zeus turned to doves to escape Orion which im sure has came up before.


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That Pic reminds me of the star cluster on the blue and red six fingered hand
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 		Re: Trail Map Names
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More or less the Pleiades.

One sister (Celaeno) and the mother (Pleione) omitted, but the
father (Atlas) included.
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If you look at Diana's Grove you see there is the Pleione Pavillion
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 		Celaeno could be in the trail area that's been overgrown. Least that's where it should be if you compare the starmap to the trailmap.

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 		Orion
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The names of the picnic areas are from the Pleiades star cluster and also match the placement of the stars there. Also the names of the stars are the seven sisters that Zeus turned to doves to escape Orion which im sure has came up before.



I thot I had seen Orion the hunter in the stars on the red and blue hand. It is in the lower left quadrant of the hand. Orion is my favorite constellation(as an aside here. The story of the bible is written in the stars and Orion the hunter is Jesus Christ.)

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 		INFO: Diana's Map & Seven Sisters
This may be too much information but thought you might find something of interest:

"According to Azure Green:
The 7-pointed star (also called the Fairy or Elven Star) represents the Pleiadean Star System, known as the Seven Sisters, & was named after the daughters of Atlas & Pleione. According to Greek mythology, Orion the hunter fell in love with the sisters & their mother. He pursued them relentlessly for seven years trying to win their affections. Eventually, the god Zeus intervened & transformed the seven sisters into doves to help them escape from Orion's advances. The doves flew into the sky to become the stars we see today. The word "Pleiades" in Greek means "doves." This mystical star system has been revered throughout antiquity, & has been called the center of the Universe, the seat of immortality, & the home of the Divine. "

AtlasHistory of the star: The father of the Hyades and Pleiades (see Alcyone) who was condemned to support the weight of the heavens on his head and hands. Other names for Atlas were: "The Endurer", "Titan bearing up the Heavens". In the human body, the atlas is the top or first cervical vertebra of the neck which supports the skull. Atlas (a star in Taurus) was believed by some mythologists to be the originator of the constellations (others say it was Chiron (Centaurus who invented them). Mythologically speaking, Atlas and Pleione are not Pleiades, but rather the parents of the Seven Sisters. Atlas precessed to 0GEM00 in 1974. (Allen).

PleioneHistory of the star: Mother of the Pleiades and Atlas' first wife. Plein,`to sail', making Pleione "sailing queen" and her daughters "sailing ones." Ancient Greek sailors were cautioned to sail only during the months when the Pleiades were visible. Mythologically speaking, Atlas and Pleione are not Pleiades, but rather the parents of the Seven Sisters. But as Pleione was the mother of the seven sisters, it seems likely that it was from her name this title, Pleiades, originated. See Alcyone for interpretations.

History of Alcyone and the Pleiades: Called "The Central One", Alcyone is the central or main star and also the largest star of the Pleiades, or Seven Sisters; the seven stars which are situated on the shoulder blade of Taurus, the Bull. Alcyone is often seen as representing the whole group that are all situated within one degree.
In Greek Mythology, Alcyone, who in grief over the death of her husband Ceyx, threw herself into the sea and was changed into a halcyon; a bird identified with the kingfisher, believed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves at the time of the winter solstice when it nested on the sea. Halcyon means tranquil and free from disturbance or care; prosperous; golden: as in "halcyon years".
Other versions make Alcyone, and her six sisters, the daughters of Atlas. Some said that it was because of the daughters' grief over Atlas, their father, whose labor in bearing the world, was the cause of their transformation and subsequent transfer to the heavens.
This cluster of stars were seen by some Romans as a "hen with her chicks", with Alcyone as "The Hen".
Other versions made them the "Seven Doves" that carried ambrosia to the infant Zeus. Pleiades (Peleiades) was called a "flock of doves". In order to flee the sexual advance of Orion, the Hunter, the seven sisters were transformed into Doves or Rock-pigeons.
Latin Butrum or Brutum, meaning a Bunch of Grapes was another title.
Arabic Al Najm, the Constellation par excellence.
They were the 1st mansion of the Moon in a number of traditions. The Arabic word for them was Al Thurayya "The Many Little Ones" and marked the 1st manzil [Influences: Profitable to sailors, huntsmen and alchemists (Robson)].
In the Hindu lunar zodiac the Pleiades are the 1st nakshatra, Krittika "The General of the Celestial Armies". The Krittikas were the six nurses of Skanda, the infant god of war, who took to himself six heads for his better nourishment. The Hindus also pictured these stars as a "Flame" or "Razor", and the regent was Agni, god of fire. [Influences: Those born on the lunar day will delight in white flowers, perform sacrifice, and will be magicians, metaphysicians, diggers, barbers, potters, priests or astronomers. With the Moon here at birth the native will be a glutton, adulterous, handsome and famous (Robson)].
As a Persian lunar station they were one of these titles: Perv, Perven, Pervis, Parvig, Parviz, Peren, Parur, Parwin, Parven; with references to the tent-maker "who stitched the tents of science".
With the Khorasmians and Sogdians, Parvi and Parur; — all these from Peru, the "Begetters", as beginning all things, probably with reference to their beginning the year [or perhaps the beginning of the lunar cycle].
The patriarch Job is thought to refer to them in his word Kimah, a Cluster, or Heap. The similar Babylonian-Assyrian Kimtu, or Kimmatu, signifies a "Family Group." Syrians had Kima. Aratos called them the Flock of Clusterers. (Allen).
Abundant crops and green pastures were attributed to these "Rainy Stars". They were also connected with traditions of the Flood found among widely separated nations.
The word Pleiades is derived from the Indo-European word pel[e]-¹, "to fill", with derivatives: fill, supply, plenty, accomplish, plethora, complete, plus, plural, replenish, implement, compliment, supplement, police, politics, policy, public, publish, publicity, palm, feeling, folks.
"Pleiades" is also related to the Greek verb plein "to sail". These were the German Schiffahrts Gestirn, the "Sailors' Stars",
The word Pleiades also derives from the sister's mythological mother, Pleione, a star that is close to this group.
This star is now at exactly zero Gemini in the year 2000.

Influence of the constellation Taurus: By the Kabalists Taurus is associated with the Hebrew letter Aleph and the 1st Tarot Trump "The Juggler". (Robson).
General influence of the Pleiades: According to Ptolemy they are of the nature of the Moon and Mars; and, to Alvidas, of Mars, Moon and Sun in opposition. They are said to make their natives wanton, ambitious, turbulent, optimistic and peaceful; to give many journeys and voyages, success in agriculture and through active intelligence; and to cause blindness, disgrace and a violent death. Their influence is distinctly evil and there is no astrological warrant for the oft-quoted passage Job (xxxviii. 31) "Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades…? "which is probably a mistranslation. (Robson).
A note about the above: It has been said that many of the negative interpretations given by astrologers in the past to the Pleiades and other stars with feminine qualities was caused by a rampant male--chauvinistic prejudice. Words like "evil influence", as in the above case, is likely to relate to homosexuality (in men), an unmentionable word in Robson's days. Other substitutions were: "not a good omen with regard to relationships to the opposite sex", "disgrace", "immoral", "evil disposition". Homosexuality (in men) is only one of the many likely influences of the Pleiades, but not the predominant influence.
Influence of Alcyone: It causes love, eminence, blindness from fevers, small pox, and accidents to the face. (Robson).
Ambition and endeavor, which gives preferment, honor and glory. Not a good omen with regard to relationships to the opposite sex. (Ebertin).
Desire to be well dressed and even misuse beauty aids, such as an excessive amount of perfume. Likely to drink too much. Success in trade conducted upon the seas. (Noonan).
Bereavement, mourning, sorrows and tragedies. (Eric Morse).
If rising: Blindness, ophthalmia injuries to the eyes and face, disgrace, wounds, stabs (operations nowadays), exile, imprisonment, sickness, violent fevers, quarrels, violent lust, military preferment. If at the same time the Sun is in opposition either to the Ascendant or to Mars, violent death. (Robson).
Impudent in speech if poorly positioned Mercury. Homosexuality. (Noonan).
The Pleiades sisters who vie with each other's radiance. Beneath their influence devotees of Bacchus (god of wine) and Venus (goddess of love) are born into the kindly light, and people whose insouciance runs free at feasts and banquets and who strive to provoke sweet mirth with biting wit. They will always take pains over personal adornment and an elegant appearance they will set their locks in waves of curls or confine their tresses with bands, building them into a thick topknot, and they will transform the appearance of the head by adding hair to it; they will smooth their hairy limbs with the porous pumice, loathing their manhood and craving for sleekness of arm. They adopt feminine dress, footwear donned not for wear but for show, and an affected effeminate gait. They are ashamed of their sex ; in their hearts dwells a senseless passion for display, and they boast of their malady, which they call a virtue. To give their love is never enough : they will also want their love to be seen. (Manilus, book 5 of Astronomica, 1st century AD).
Setting: Pleasant death, when setting, if aspected by benefics. (Noonan).
If culminating: Disgrace, ruin, violent death. If with the luminaries it makes its natives military captains, commanders, colonels of horse and emperors. (Robson).
With Sun: Throat ailments, chronic catarrh, blindness, bad eyes, injuries to the face, sickness, disgrace, evil disposition, murderer or murdered, imprisonment, death by pestilence, blows, stabs, shooting, beheading or shipwreck. If in 7th house, blindness, especially if Saturn or Mars be with Regulus. If with Mars and Venus the native will be a potent king obeyed by many people but subject to many infirmities. (Robson).
With Moon: Injuries to the face, sickness, misfortune, wounds, stabs, disgrace, imprisonment, blindness, defective sight especially if in the Ascendant or one of the other angles, may be cross-eyed, Color-blind or the eyes may be affected by some growth. If in the 7th house, total blindness especially if Saturn or Mars be with Regulus and the Moon be combust. (Robson).
With Mercury: Many disappointments, loss of possessions, much loss from legal affairs, business failure, trouble through children. (Robson).
With Venus: Immoral, strong passions, disgrace through women, sickness, loss of fortune. (Robson).
With Mars: Many accidents to the head, loss and suffering through fires. If at the same time Saturn is with Regulus, violent death in a tumult. (Robson).
With Jupiter: Deceit, hypocrisy, legal and ecclesiastical troubles, loss through relatives, banishment or imprisonment. (Robson).
With Saturn: Cautious, much sickness, tumorous ailments, chronic sickness to family many loses. (Robson).
With Uranus: Active mind, deformity from birth or through accident in childhood, many accidents and troubles, many unexpected losses often through fire or enemies, marriage partner proves false especially if female, troubles through women, occult interests, unfavorable for children, if any, and lack of harmony with them, heavy losses at end of life, violent death. (Robson).
With Neptune: Bold, military preferment, honor, wealth, help from friends, many serious accidents, many travel, somewhat dishonorable occupation involving secrecy, ill-health to marriage partner and peculiar conditions respecting parentage, bad for children, may lose everything at end of life, violent death, often abroad while following occupation. (Robson).

ASTEROPE was one of the OKEANIDES. She was the mother of Akragas by Zeus, founder of Akragas in Sicily.

History of the star: One of the Pleiades or Seven Sisters. A star on the back of the Bull, Taurus. See Alcyone the chief star in the Pleiades for interpretations.

Taygeta
History of the star: One of the Pleiades, or Seven Sisters in Taurus. In Greek mythology Taygeta yielded to Zeus' advances only when unconscious, but was so ashamed when she recovered that she hid herself under Mount Taygetus, in Laconia. In due course she gave birth to Lacedæmon, founder of Sparta. It was also said that in order to protect her from Zeus, Artemis disguised her as a doe. When she was restored to her original form, Taygete in gratitude dedicated the Ceryneian Hind to the goddess which was to become the golden horns that Heracles (3rd labor) had to fetch. (Dictionary of Classical Mythology, Pierre Grimal, Penguin, 1986).

Maia
by Daphne Elliott

"The Pleiades" was the name given to the seven daughters of Atlas and Pleione. Maia was the eldest of the daughters, and said to be the most beautiful. Being shy, she lived quietly and alone in a cave on Mount Cyllene, in Arcadia.
Zeus, however, discovered the beautiful young woman, and fell in love with her. He came to her cave at night, to make love to her away from the jealous eyes of his wife, Hera. As a result, Maia bore Zeus a son, Hermes.
When still an infant, Hermes stole some cattle from the god Apollo, and hid them in his mother's cave. When Apollo stormed into Maia's cave, she showed him the tiny baby to prove he could not have been the cattle thief. Apollo was not fooled, however, and angrily appealed to Zeus to punish Hermes. Zeus arbitrated by requiring Hermes to give back the cattle. During the feud, baby Hermes played the lyre, and Apollo was so enchanted by the music that he dropped the charges, and even gave some of the cattle to Hermes, as well as other gifts.
Some time later, Maia helped Zeus when Hera had caused the death of one of his other mistresses, Callisto, who had borne him a son, named Arcas. Zeus ordered Hermes to give Arcas to Maia to raise as her own, which she did.
Arcas and Callisto were eventually placed in the sky, becoming the constellations Ursa Major and Ursa Minor (Big and Little Bear) to escape the wrath of the ever-jealous Hera.

History of the star: The eldest of the Pleiades, or Seven Sisters in Taurus. She was said to have surpassed her sisters in beauty. Maia of Greek myth had an affair with Zeus and gave birth to Hermes. Later became foster-mother to Arcas (Ursa Minor) who was the son of Zeus and Callisto (Ursa Major) during the period while Callisto was a bear, and before Callisto and Arcas were placed in the heavens by Zeus (she as Ursa Major, he as either Ursa Minor). This is also the goddess Maia of the Romans who was the mother of Mercury and to which the month of May was particularly dedicated. She was the supporter of Vulcan.

Electra
History of the star: One of the Pleiades or Seven Sisters.
Zeus fathered her son, Dardanus, founder of Troy. This star is not visible to the naked eye; Electra is the missing Pleiad who withdrew her light in sorrow at the destruction of Llium, the house of Dardanus. Electra, they say, left her sisters and took a place in the Arctic circle. That is why they sing:
...In Troy's last hour...
Electra shrouded her form in mist and cloud, and left the Pleiad-band...
Still rises up...their bright troop in the skies; but she alone hides viewless ever since the town of her son Dardanus in ruin fell...
Electra had another son, Iasion and a third, Samothrace but more frequently this third child is named as Harmonia. (Allen).

MeropeHistory of the star: One of the Pleiades in Taurus, or Seven Sisters. She married Sisyphus, by whom she had a son, Glaucus. Merope was the only Pleiad to marry a mortal, and the star that she represents shines less bright than those which represent her sisters.
History of the star: This is the seventh of the sisters. She alone, married a mortal man and she repents of it, Sisyphus, and hid her face in shame at being the only one not married to a god and from shame at the deed, she alone of the sisters hides herself in the sky (there is some dispute over whether it is Merope or Electra that hides herself, i.e. the star does not shine). Her husband, Sisyphus, son of Æolus, grandson of Deucalion (the Greek Noah), and great-grandson of Prometheus. Sisyphus founded the city of Ephyre (Corinth) and later revealed Zeus's rape of Ægina to her father Asopus (a river), for which Zeus condemned him to roll a huge stone up a hill in Hades, only to have it roll back down each time the task was nearly done.
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 		I'm not sure if this is relavant or not, but if you continue the yellow lines on the Hiking Trail Map, they intersect at the fountain/pond right above North Street in the second block from the left. Brings us back to our water as a doorway. Does anyone still have the map for where the graffiti was?
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 		re: graffiti map
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I'm not sure if this is relavant or not, but if you continue the yellow lines on the Hiking Trail Map, they intersect at the fountain/pond right above North Street in the second block from the left. Brings us back to our water as a doorway. Does anyone still have the map for where the graffiti was?


You mean this one? Cool
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 		Another Look at the Map
Looking at this map again opens up a whole 'nother can of worms. We never did get an answer on why some of the graffiti was labeled copycat. And during all of the weird stuff happening at Phyllis' house, I plum forgot the graffiti on her house hadn't been considered legitimate. Rolling Eyes

So looking at it with new eyes, we've got 12 graffiti laid out in a circle with one in the middle. O my! Classic magickal ritual stuff!

What it means? I dunno. Just pointing out the obvious. Very Happy

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 		Re: Another Look at the Map
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Looking at this map again opens up a whole 'nother can of worms. We never did get an answer on why some of the graffiti was labeled copycat. And during all of the weird stuff happening at Phyllis' house, I plum forgot the graffiti on her house hadn't been considered legitimate. Rolling Eyes

So looking at it with new eyes, we've got 12 graffiti laid out in a circle with one in the middle. O my! Classic magickal ritual stuff!

What it means? I dunno. Just pointing out the obvious. Very Happy


It could be legitamate... Just done by a different group or side...
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 		Re: Another Look at the Map
Magesteff wrote:
sjct wrote:
Looking at this map again opens up a whole 'nother can of worms. We never did get an answer on why some of the graffiti was labeled copycat. And during all of the weird stuff happening at Phyllis' house, I plum forgot the graffiti on her house hadn't been considered legitimate. Rolling Eyes

So looking at it with new eyes, we've got 12 graffiti laid out in a circle with one in the middle. O my! Classic magickal ritual stuff!

What it means? I dunno. Just pointing out the obvious. Very Happy


It could be legitamate... Just done by a different group or side...


The real graffiti doesn't erase, but the copycat stuff presumably does. There's no implication that it's mystic in any way.
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Magesteff wrote:


It could be legitamate... Just done by a different group or side...


The real graffiti doesn't erase, but the copycat stuff presumably does. There's no implication that it's mystic in any way.


TTBOMK... Iris has only looked at the one done on the Library. Maybe we should request she visit each of the sites including the copycat ones?
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 		The real graffiti on the library was sand-blasted off. Phyllis couldn't see it but Iris could still see where it had been. The Mayor told us that local teenagers had been responsible for the copycat graffiti -- as least that's what my poor brain remembers. Someone help me if I've remembered this wrong. Confused

But, it was never explained how the police could tell the difference. I remember, too, the Mayor crowing about all of it being finally removed. So, it is gone now and only a psychic can see where it once was.

The point of my earlier realization was that Phyllis' house -- which was certainly the scene of strange activity and has what Sunny so aptly named a "Portal Potty" -- was not one of the locations of the original ten instances as identified by the local authorities. So, I'm wondering what the graffiti did mean, if it wasn't warding or evoking spirits in various locations. And maybe, the three so-called copycat graffiti weren't done by local kids or weren't copycat. I don't know. It was a loose thread left flapping in the breeze and I never got it straight in my head.

Did any of us completely figure it out at the time? Are we better informed to understand it now? Maybe it doesn't really matter. Sad

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