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 		The birds must have been an attempt to either negate the offering of the "trussed d(r)ove" or they ARE the "trussed d(r)ove."
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danteIL wrote:
What are the 'three names' that are used to bind the oblation?

My first impression was that the three names are the three proper nouns invoked in the incantation:
Oblation file wrote:
I am Spukhafte Fernwirkung. I invoke the Pact of Chorazos. I bind it to this work that I have done for You, Yog-Sothoth. I bind the three names together with this seal of oblation.

That is, "Spukhafte Fernwirkung", "Chorazos", and "Yog-Sothoth". Another idea is this: I read one of HPHack's posts as those the Chorazos is a shady, secretive cabal at Misk:
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People make such a huge deal of Miskatonic's literary reputation. Chorazos getting tied up in all those massacre rumors was like ringing the dinner bell for the journalists. If I went to Yale, you'd think Skull & Bones was behind it all. If I went to Mizzou, you'd think Mystical Seven was behind it. Convenient boogiemen.

Not to say that most folks at Misk believe in the Chorazos' existence (it could be super-sekrit, not just sorta-sekrit). But if maybe there are Three Chief Chorazans or whatever? Those could be the names?

Or even, that Mr. Spooky McGee here has binded his name, Howard's, and Bryce's together.

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 		I think that invoking the pact of Chorazos is what Exu described here - the actual Chorazos cult is dead but somebody else is taking advantage of magical bargains they made.

So Spukhafte Fernwirkung is using whatever deals Chorazos had to invoke Yog-Sothoth.

danteIL wrote:
What are the 'three names' that are used to bind the oblation?


I read that bit the other way around - that the oblation was used to bind the three names.

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 		If Spukhafte Fernwirkung is preparing the way for Yog-Sothoth as stated in the oblation the summoning hasn't begun.

In the case of dexter Fletcher Ward it states the summoning:-
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But I am not unreadie for harde fortunes, as I have tolde you, and have long work'd upon ye way to get'g Backe after ye Loste.
I laste Nighte strucke on ye Wordes that bringe up YOGGE-SOTHOTHE, and sawe for ye firste Time that face spoke of by Ibn Schacabac in ye------------------. And IT said, that ye III Psalme in ye Liber-Damnatus holdes y Clavicle.
With Sunne in V House, Saturne in Trine, drawe ye Pentagram of Fire, and saye ye ninth Verse thrice. this Verse repeate eache Roodemas and Hallow's Eve, and ye thing will breede in ye Outside Spheres.


And of ye Seede of Olde shal One be borne who shal looke Backe, tho' know'g not what he seekes.

From what I have found the Sun in the 5th and saturn in trine will have to be related to the summoners birth.

Roodemas is

Roodmas (from Old English 'rod' pr. 'rood', rood, cross, and 'mas', mass) is an ancient and obsolete English word meaning "Mass of the Cross". This festivity is associated with the Heathen festival of Beltane, the same Neopagan festivity, Walpurgis Night, May Day and witchcraft. It took place at midnight on May 1, during a time in which it was common to celebrate some masses at 12 AM (0:00 hrs), presumably in an attempt to diminish the influence of Paganism. Persecutions were common the days after the celebration of Roodmas because people who did not go to the church were considered to be Pagans first, and Satanists later, and the Christian authorities were not well disposed to tolerate non-Christian population in their territory, as History proves. During the Middle Age and Renaissance it was said that witches and warlocks celebrated a reunion called Great Sabbath on this night to honour the Devil and offend Jesus, God and all sacraments.

Did The Chorazos Logs start on may 1st?
Are the outer spheres the mudding being created by us?

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danteIL
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jjason wrote:
danteIL wrote:
What are the 'three names' that are used to bind the oblation?


I read that bit the other way around - that the oblation was used to bind the three names.


Reading it again, I think you're right.

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I am Spukhafte Fernwirkung. I invoke the Pact of Chorazos. I bind it to this work that I have done for You, Yog-Sothoth. I bind the three names together with this seal of oblation.


Also on re-reading, I noticed that there are possibly two bindings:

In addition to "I bind the three names together", there is:

"I bind [the Pact of Chorazos] to this work that I have done for You"

So what is 'this work'?

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danteIL wrote:
What is the 'keystone glyph'?

I have no idea. An arch is similar to a gate. But we haven't encountered anything similar to a glyph so far.
danteIL wrote:
What is a 'trussed drove,' or should that be a 'trussed dove'?

Honestly, I think it's just a simile. What's more interesting is what the sacrifice might be - Sentry Outpost maybe? Maybe SF caused the server crash, sacrifice the website to Yog Sothoth I think that backup/121606 is the alter, since the oblation is placed upon it, so maybe Boil is the sacrifice?
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What are the 'nurseries'?

Nurseries are for protecting young ones and letting them grow. Maybe SF is growing something? Maybe a botnet - he infected Ronomi and Sentry Outpost and from there it'll grow and spread. Or maybe there's a baby Yog-Sothoth somewhere.
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Why does Marie need to be warned about this? Is SO in trouble?

New Theory: maybe the members of Sentry Outpost are the sacrifice. Doesn't summoning Yog Sothoth usually require a human sacrifice? I'm pretty sure I remember PST productions mentioning that. SF might be planning to kill the members of Sentry Outpost over the web somehow. With magic.
danteIL wrote:
So what is 'this work'?

I thought the Boil and the Scream. My theory goes that the pact of Chorazos requires Yog Sothoth to manifest or do something when the chant found on Port 5217 is invoked, although you probably have to do other thigns. But SF isn't a member of Chorazos so the pact wasn't with him. By invoking the pact and binding it to his work, he's able to take advantage the deal that Chorazos had.

Other thoughts I had - The mention of local realism made me think that local realism is already shattered on the internet. There's no distance or space.

Looking on wikipedia, apparently Yog-Sothoth's name is used to raise the dead in the Case of Charles Dexter Ward, which is connection to Dedi, who also raised to dead.

Also, do we have a good theory for what the supplicants are? They're having a path paved for them and they're being drawn to Yog-Sothoth.

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jjason wrote:
danteIL wrote:
What is a 'trussed drove,' or should that be a 'trussed dove'?

Honestly, I think it's just a simile. What's more interesting is what the sacrifice might be - Sentry Outpost maybe? Maybe SF caused the server crash, sacrifice the website to Yog Sothoth I think that backup/121606 is the alter, since the oblation is placed upon it, so maybe Boil is the sacrifice?


I agree. Metaphor -- or possibly euphemism/jargon.

In voodoo, for example, the "hornless goat" is a euphemism for human sacrifice.
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