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Adventurik
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 		Yes, Rock and I have been using those clues, since they kinda seem legit.
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If my assumption is correct (and I'm not sure it is), and the 9 symbol pillars go on numbers 1-9 (which would make sense in Puzzleland and render some difficulty), then 1-9 add up to 45. Rock has opened his Carta Blanca, and I really don't see how 45 is a clue. I suppose you can extract a slight connection, but it's a really big stretch of logic. The solution has been posted here elsewhere.

Shirly, did you open the Temple yet?

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Shirley Films
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 		Yeah. I opened the Temple.

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I am assuming the dots on the dice are the "blueprints"?

The clues that confuse me about the Pillars are the ones that talk about "opposite always equals same" (does this mean opposite ends of the board?) and the one about "equals cannot touch but can be neighbors". What does that mean? What constitutes a neighbor? As far as I can tell, NO pieces NEED to touch. Are diagonal pieces considered neighbors?

And... "with symbols gathered at the core, this attribute cannot be equal". Equal to what?

Also, "Utmost must be reached"? Utmost WHAT???


Okay. I guess I have a long way to go with this one. Hehehe.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:59 am
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dmb
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Shirley Films wrote:

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There were the standard 2 clues on it:
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Thanks Shirley, that did the trick ! You're right, it's not a difficult password.

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magicrock
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 		Opposites always equal same:
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I am guessing the opposite sides of a die always equal 7. So, 7 might be an important number, or the sides of the dice used by the rod are two numbers (mine were the 1 and the 6).

Neighbors:
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I consider side-by-side as not allowed, but diagonal pieces can be the same height. Actual 'touching' is not the issue, i don't think.

Correct solution:
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The Equation 'solution' to how the pieces fit on the board might not be important. Just any solution is OK, maybe. Adventurik found that placing the 'Clue' piece on the board revealed an expresion... that might be for the password. And the dark pieces (four of them) fit the 'Legend of King' or the next puzzle. The extra dark piece might be for the last puzzle, the 'Pyramid'. This might imply that there is no correct 'specific' way the pillars fit as long as the rules are obyed. If adding up some numbers helps solve carta blanca then I can imagine how that can be, but I did not need that sum total to open it. If all solutions add up to 45 by obeying the rules then OK. I can imagine 45 being the required number. If anyone wants the scale it is in the next spoiler.

The scale:
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I think the scale is centigrade. 45C might be the temp reauired to open carta blanca. I used a hair dryer so was not too accurate, but it opened after it got warm.


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Shirley Films
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 		Pillars - possible solution.
Well. I played with the Pillars all day today.

I think I have a solution for it. But. I guess there is no way to know for sure.

If you want my solution (and my reasoning, read on):

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If you add each individual line together for its own total (separately, by line), you get 16, 6, 17, 7, 24 horizontal and 19 6 18 7 20 verticle. The lines 6 and 7 match up on the board both ways (6 and 6+1, from the dice?) and are therefore "equals".

Anyway. If you fill these lines in with the non-marked pieces (not too tricky), it leaves a very symmetrical board in which to place the remaining unused marked pieces. HOWEVER, there is no way (that I found) to place those pieces according to the rules (no same pieces as neighbors). So. I scrapped that line of thinking, partially.

Staying with the 6 and 7 lines, I decided not to worry about the marked pieces and just made the puzzle work by keeping the 6 and 7 lines consistent and filling out the rest of the puzzle. Then, after I had it solved in such a way that all the pieces were in place on the board and according to the rules (not similar to their neighbor), I searched the board for an area where the 3x3 clue could be applied with the marked pieces, and then swapped out the appropriate non-marked pieces, with marked ones. There are 3 ways that the marked pieces can be placed within this solution that will work. I checked the totals of these 3 solutions (18, 20 and 30) and chose the highest one ("the utmost") which occupies the bottom corner of the board.

I am not sure this is correct, but it fits all the clues (I think). The only exception might be "within the simple city walls". Because the marked pieces are not "within" a border. However, the other clue about "symbols gathered at the core" makes it impossible to do anyway. At least that is my take.

Anyway. Here is the diagram of my solution. Note that it maintains the integrity of the 6 and 7 lines while also keeping the 3 per line rule about the marked ones. If someone gets a better solution... I would love to check it out.

1=Tall piece
2=Medium piece
3=Short piece
S=Square Tall Piece
C=Circle Medium Piece
T=Triangle Short Piece

1 2 1 2 1
2 1 3 1 2
1 3 S C T
2 1 C T S
1 2 T S C


If nothing else it was a challenging distraction for most of the morning.

-SF

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Funboy
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 		pàuzzles 4 to 6
About what dmc wrote, i got the whole serie on ebay from the puzzle emporium right here in good ol uk

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dmb
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 		Re: pàuzzles 4 to 6
Funboy wrote:
About what dmc wrote, i got the whole serie on ebay from the puzzle emporium right here in good ol uk


Aaaargh, I just ordered 4-6 from the US about three hours ago !! The particularly annoying thing is that The Puzzle Emporium does stock these puzzles, but doesn't come up in eBay searches e.g. for "Sacred Myths and Legends" - go figure ! I've had a daily email search running for months so they've just lost out on £100 worth of business ... shame.

Oh well, Ive probably got 15% import duty to lok forward to too

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Adventurik
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 		Pillars
Fantastic work, Shirley! I've spent a few hours on Pillars myself, but not near all day! Very impressive. Your solution looks good, but then it's the only one anyone has presented. "Gathered at the core" doesn't seem possible--I moved yours to the center and couldn't get the border to align correctly. Anyway, congratulations!

ps. Can you give another clue to the Pillars password? I can't figure it out and I've Googled the heck out of Atlantis.

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Shirley Films
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 		Pillars Password clue
Adventurik,

I will try my hand at a clue that doesn't give it away entirely.
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The obvious answer seems like it would be Plato... and that IS the answer. But he also has another name.


See if that helps. Smile

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Adventurik
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 		Thank you, Shirley. That did the trick!

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dmb
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 		We can start to make a few general observations with two clues:

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Clues

1. are language-independent;
2. may be numeric (although not necessarily arabic digits);
3. are not case-sensitive.


Looks like I have to re-register on the SML website - it still claims that I've correctly entered the password for The Equation (I still don't think so, but there's a niggling "what if I did guess it correctly while plugging in guesses some time in the past ? Would I stumble across the same one again or mentally eliminate it as having been tried unsuccessfully ?" Very frustrating !!!)

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Adventurik
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 		I was having the same problem with the site on Equation passwords. Then for some reason it stopped, and all I got was "wrong key". Now I'd kinda like to see "you've already solved this password". Smile

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Shirley Films
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 		New email from Family Games, Inc.
I wrote them this weekend requesting an update on the final puzzle in this series. I asked if they had a release date... or an approximate one. This is what they said:

No exact date, that will be released shortly, but it will be out in stores
for Christmas.

So. YAY. Looks like we will get to complete the journey after all. Heh.

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magicrock
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 		Oh, Great!!! Another 'password' to figure out. Just because the last puzzle will be out...does not mean I'll be able to complete the journey. Just joking...thanks for asking them about the last puzzle. For a while there, they were not active at all and we thought the series was falling apart. Can't wait to put the whole series together.

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 		Enigmatic Temple
The clue for this password: "Only 4 remain. The singular form will expose the password." Assuming 4 puzzles remain and they want a singular form, I tried 'square', and 'quatrain'. No luck. What might be an universal language expression for the singular of 4?

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