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peanut
Kilroy

Joined: 30 Jan 2010
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 		The equation answer
Can anyone PLEASEEEEEEEE PM me the answer to the equation as its really hurting my brain now Shocked Been trying to solve it for the past 12months+

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:18 am
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Flipside
Boot

Joined: 31 Dec 2009
Posts: 13

 		THE EQUATION

dmb wrote:
The best clues are:

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"... it is the beginning for one and the end for another." and
"... it need not be new."


These describe the answer almost exactly.


Hi,
This is bugging me now!!
I think I know the answer but it doesn't work (lol). Not sure if the answer is in the correct format though?

The question i want to ask is the password a WORD or NUMBER?
PM me if you don't want to reveal too much and maybe I can bounce some ideas off you. I want to still try and get it but feel it's a matter of formatting that is hindering me, or I'm completely wrong! lol

Cheers,

Flipside.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:06 am
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thescarletking
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Joined: 09 Jan 2010
Posts: 3

 		Password for DaVinciīs Secret
Still struggeling...
Adventurik wrote:
Welcome, thescarletking!
Here's a push. In your second statement are two questions. Apply the first question to your first statement. It's just a little push in the right direction.


Hi all!

Iīm still struggeling with the password and I still donīt want you to tell me the solution but...could you please give me another hint? As tiny as possible would do fine.

Kind regards

Frank

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:38 pm
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SSquire
Kilroy

Joined: 04 Feb 2010
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 		Happy Birthday Galileo!

(I'm still confused as ever!)

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:53 pm
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dragonkill
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Joined: 07 Nov 2009
Posts: 8

 		DaVinci password
if u want password hints, read the first 6 pages

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:50 pm
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Adventurik
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Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Posts: 262

 		Re: Password for DaVinciīs Secret
Still struggeling...
thescarletking wrote:
Adventurik wrote:
Welcome, thescarletking!
Here's a push. In your second statement are two questions. Apply the first question to your first statement. It's just a little push in the right direction.


Hi all!

Iīm still struggeling with the password and I still donīt want you to tell me the solution but...could you please give me another hint? As tiny as possible would do fine.

Kind regards

Frank
dragonkill is right. It's all in the first 6 pages of this website. Including the solution. I don't remember it off the top of my head, so I'd have to read thru those pages, too.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:11 pm
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dmb
Boot

Joined: 09 Jul 2007
Posts: 41

 		Try this Frank:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Hint 1: Title is of unimportance. Decode the scroll and the password will be clear.

This means "Ignore the name of the painting (Mona Lisa), the password is not in the name - use the hint on the scroll to find the password"


Hint 2: Letters and numbers will make you smile when you've deciphered the password and get closer to the treasure.

"Letters and Numbers ...": What kind of numbers have letters in them ?
"... will make smile ...": When was the smile on the Mona Lisa made ?


PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:57 am
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thescarletking
Greenhorn

Joined: 09 Jan 2010
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 		Got it!
Hi all,

I finally deciphered the password. The funny thing is: I actually solved it a while ago, but...

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I thought of the password as being the year of the "making of" Mona Lisa, written in roman numbers. What kept me from finding the correct answers was simply that in German Wikipedia, at the beginning of the article, it is said that Mona Lisa has been made between 1502 and 1503 or between 1503 and 1505. You see the point, donīt you? Scrolling down the article finally gave me the hint to decipher the password.
Aaargh, so close yet so far away!


Thanks again for your help Smile
Now itīs for the equation!

Cheers!

Frank

PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:06 pm
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CJG
Kilroy

Joined: 18 Mar 2010
Posts: 2

 		The Equation solution
More then a spooler.
(Please be worn that english is not my first language)

The problem with this puzzle is that "Family Games", do not explain what to do with 15 pieces and a board.

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To fit 15 pieces with out holes or part of the pieces hanging of the base, there many solutions to this puzzle, and none is use to solved the final solution.


Many solution are all ready in this forum.

Bravo to Musucal99, Cnico (variation on the theme to Adventurik), Sarah B for one solution, and Isidorus for one solution.

The solution to the final puzzle is given by the clue written on the presentation leaflet.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The solution of the second puzzle is on the Davinci Secrets: The clue puzzle game.


Bravo to Adventurik and chriswhity for solving it.

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The final puzzle need to be solved with parts of the first puzzle of the series.


Bravo to Chriswhitey for a partiel solution (missing the final part).

and finally to access the password for Family Games Websites, you need to find the proper equation.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The solution are releated to the figure (scientist) on the box. needed a lot of web searching for this one.


And for you that try to drill throught bits and pieces of the puzzle, these no hidden magnet or scroll (it's in the box).

And the biggest spooler is:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
You will need to find all the missing pieces of the series to resolved the last puzzles, meaning don't loose pieces or break them.


I have to admit that, I have some advantage on some of you, I met the creator for this series, He's from Canada, and he has explained to me is philosophy on creating puzzle.

Take two aspirin and call me in the morning Smile

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:24 pm
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Shirley Films
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Joined: 26 May 2009
Posts: 74

 		Emailed Family Games America, again.

They are now saying the final puzzle will be out Summer of this year.

I looked through my chain of emails with them... and it's comical to see their responses...

...Fall of 2009!
...Winter of 2009!
...Spring of 2010!
...Summer of 2010!

*shrug*

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:31 pm
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CJG
Kilroy

Joined: 18 Mar 2010
Posts: 2

 		Puzzle 7 of the series
On my last conversation with the creator of the series, he explained to me that the seventh puzzle had too by redesign, due of a mechanical (supply) of one part of the puzzle.

And with the new seventh puzzle, some extra piece will be not use to resolved the final puzzle.

Take two aspirin and call me in the morning Smile

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:48 pm
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Sir Real
Greenhorn

Joined: 28 Mar 2010
Posts: 4

 		Is this forum active?
I just want to see if this Forum is live. I've been browsing the archives and have found some useful stuff. But is there anyone out there still working on these puzzles? Still care about them at all? I'm new to them and have been having fun so far, but obviously they're quite challenging.

Just let me know if anybody's out there.

Thanks!

P.S. I'm also new to cyber-forums, so I hope I don't break protocol or anything.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:06 pm
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Sir Real
Greenhorn

Joined: 28 Mar 2010
Posts: 4

 		Beginner's Thoughts
So I just bought all 6 SML puzzles last night. My girlfriend and I opened DaVinci in good time and found the various markings on the various parts. Now I'm mired in Equation, as I see many other people are/have been.

Just trying to wrap my head around what sort of game/puzzle this is. I was initially excited because my girlfriend and I love the "National Treasure" movies, and this puzzle appears to recreate some of that "delve into history and decode its secrets" magic. I also enjoy the idea of the interlocking nature of the puzzles.

But I'm a little frustrated already. It seems to me a good puzzle should have a solution that follows clearly, logically, and inevitably from the elements of the problem itself. As in mathematics. So you can have one of those "ah ha!" moments when everything instantaneously comes together to make wonderful, incontrovertible sense. I have had such experiences as a math student, and they are among the most thrilling in my life.

But it seems this puzzle is not of that nature. The "solutions" seem ill-defined and the paths to them seem more than a little arbitrary. For example, I haven't figured out the password from DaVinci yet, but from what I've read here, it seems the password doesn't follow very tightly from the "clues" but is rather requires a lot of hand-waving, guesswork, and luck. And of course, once you've solved it you can stretch it as much as you want to make it make perfect sense. But hindsight is 20/20, you know?

But I have some specific basic questions about the puzzle. I'm confused as to how the "clues" operate. Each puzzle contains/comes with a scroll on which are printed two "clues". Here's what I'm thinking so far:

The first clue on each scroll is a clue for the password required to access online hints and clues to be used in the next puzzle. The second clue on each scroll is a hint to the solution of the next puzzle.

Am I right in this?

/edit: merged into existing thread -ndemeter

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:18 pm
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Sir Real
Greenhorn

Joined: 28 Mar 2010
Posts: 4

 		Just Starting Out
Ok, I bought all 6 SML puzzles last night on a whim. I was horribly intrigued by them. Got DaVinci open in good time, though not sure that helped much. Now I'm mired in Equation, as I see many others have been. Some for a long time.

Just trying to wrap my head around what sort of puzzle this is. It seems to me a good puzzle has a solution that follows clearly, logically, and inevitably (though not obviously) from elements within the problem itself. As in mathematics.

This doesn't seem to be the case with this puzzle. The password for DaVinci doesn't follow tightly from the "clues" given on the scroll. The connection seems a bit arbitrary and involves a lot of hand-waving, guesswork, and luck. Of course, once you've got it you can stretch the issue to make it make perfect sense. But hindsight is perfect, you know?

But I have a specific basic question about the clues. Each puzzle comes with/contains a scroll, right? And on each scroll are 2 clues. The first clue is for the password that can be used to access online hints that will help with solving the next puzzle. And the second clue is itself a clue that will help solve the next puzzle.

Am I right about all this? Because I have seen a few people using the clue "The telescopic vision, etc." which is the first clue on the scroll that comes with Equation. But this should be a clue for the password that will give one hints on how to solve Legend of the King, right?

I know the puzzle's hard, but I have zero chance if I don't even know the basic formalities of the game. And personally I think they should be made more clear. It's a bit ridiculous when figuring out the rules of the game is part of the game itself.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:47 pm
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Shirley Films
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Joined: 26 May 2009
Posts: 74

 		Sir Real,

Some of these puzzles/riddles are more cohesive than others. And unfortunately, it's hard to talk about them... without giving away solutions/hints.

It's been a while since I looked at the scrolls, but you are right that they contain clues for both the puzzle and the riddle. If you visit the website, which is which might become clearer. It's not a great website, but it will show you the clues that apply to the puzzle as opposed to those that apply to the riddle. AND there are extra hints on there for both (usually).

Most of the riddles are fairly difficult, so the extra hints are almost a necessity.

As far as the "Equation" puzzle.... this one has left most of us scratching our heads. Without doubt, probably the most cryptic riddle in the series. Not so much because it's hard to figure the answer, but because it's hard to make sure you are entering it right into the website. The puzzle itself has many solutions, which apparently the creators of the puzzle didn't account for. I don't think anyone on this forum has solved the Equation in a way that satisfies all the clues provided.... but it's been a while since I read back through this forum. Most of us (I think) have given up trying to make sense of it. Maybe you will be the first!!!

Similarly, the Pillars puzzle provides no way of knowing if you have solved it correctly. There are 2 or 3 solutions offered on this forum that seem to fit the clues... but the creators of the games have, so far, not issued any official solutions. Still, it was one of my favorites.

And, yes, you are correct that you will get an extra clue on the website for the following puzzle if you are able to enter the correct password/riddle solution.

Back to your questions about "The Telescopic vision" clue. I think everyone was kind of grasping at straws with that one. Again, these puzzles are hit-and-miss regarding their cohesiveness. And since there is no place to find the actual "official" solutions... we all do the best we can with what we have. Smile

That being said, they are still pretty fun. I kept a notebook when I was working on them... and it's amazing to look back and see how much time and effort I put into them (mostly the passwords). But. It was a cool (if imperfect) experience. As long as you can be a little forgiving and don't expect everything to gel together perfectly ... you will have a good time. Smile

Then you can wait patiently for the final puzzle with the rest of us.

Hope this helps.

SF

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