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NeoManicXZ
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Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 18 Location: Columbus, Ohio
[White District] Composure
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We have intercepted an unchipped courier from an unexpected source: The western wasteland. With a little pressure the man revealed his intent was to hack into a secure data file with the password he claims is hidden within the documents he carried. Unfortunately the subject did not survive initial interrogation, so we have been left with no way to identify his real target or the password itself. Identify this password for us and perhaps we can cross-reference our government databases to determine what the target really was.
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:07 pm
notgordian
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Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 1383 Location: Philly
Here's the page transcribed to letters...probably A minor (maybe C major, though, with my knowledge of music these days), so no sharps and flats unless they're marked. I'll update this with more as I do it. Takes a while, though (I played the cello, so know bass clef better)
If which octave matters, it's going to have to be retranscribed. Hopefully by someone else.
AAE (rest)| DABEEA | A (rest) EDDA | EE (rest_rest)
*ACCD | AGGABG | EAFAA | DAGGA(rest)
BDBADA | AED(rest)BA | DD(rest)AA | ED(rest)BAE
E(rest)FAAD | AG(rest)GAFE | AAD(rest)F | A(rest)AD**
AGGAFB(rest) | (2 measures rest) | D***FBDA(rest) | AGDE
DEA(rest) | EDD(rest) | AAEDE | EB(rest)B | FFEDF(rest)
AAGF(rest)AEA | A(rest)AGE | E(rest)B(rest) | AEDEAGDB
E(rest)ED(rest) | AEFAE | FABDD | CAEEG****F
A(rest)DEB | (rest)AEDAD | B(rest)EGB*****
AGG(rest)DEE | G(rest)
* (scratched out) G
** (scratched out) AG(A?)
*** (scratched out) AB
**** (scratched out) measure line
***** (scratched out) AGGGG
For a musicpedia query, you'd use the following search term
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a'4. a'2. e''4. r8 d''4 a'8 b'8 e''8 e''8 a'4
to describe the first two bars: couldn't find any close matches, though--even with the "Symphony No. 3" hint.
I am atrocious at music theory (seriously) but something seems severely wrong with this piece of music: ending on a "G" doesn't make sense for an A minor song--and I don't see where they would have switched. I asked one of my friends who actually DOES know what he's talking about, and he said it would sound horrible...said it would probably be a contemporary piece if anything.
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:54 am
Wang Guantao
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Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 246
I can't hear music from reading notes, but someone outta midi that. I doubt it will sound nice at all, so I think it might be a different code written in note style (like maybe notes of varying pitch have different numerical values, and then it needs to be hexed/ascii'ed/base60'ed from there).
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:29 pm
Forgery
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Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 158
Can we get this to add to the audiophile list, perhaps somebody can realy poorly whistle the tune while standing half a mile away from the mic inbetween several brick walls, then we can try and recognise the melody and find the composer just a thought
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:01 pm
Pied Piper
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Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 362
Not so sure this is a modern piece actually. It sounds like it might be from a French or Japanese composer, which would be why it sounds a little odd to anyone who usually only listens to light classical. I'm going to see what I can find out about this one. Wish me luck.
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:06 am
Pied Piper
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Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 362
Key of ? Just occurred to me that we cannot assume the this is in either a minor or C major. Since we don't know for which instrument this is written, the fact that there are no sharps or flats means nothing. I mean, if we knew for sure that it was written for a C instrument, like flute or piano, then we'd have something, but if it's written for the clarinet, a B flat instrument if I'm remembering correctly, the effective key (meaning the key the piece would be listed in ) would be the key of c minor or D major.
Pretty sure that, based on what I've been able to hear from the melody line, we've got a minor key movement here. But the symphony itself could still be in a major key. Try listening to the second movement of Beethoven's 9th symphony to see what I mean.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:20 am
Trace
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Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 102
If only i would have payed more attention in music class (SIGHS)
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:07 am
Arkaham
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Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 353
Ok, I just talked with my brother in law who can make some sense out of all the pretty dots on the pretty lines (yes, that is how much I know about music).
He says he's completely sure is not classical music and about 90% sure this is not a real melody. On the third line, second thingy between vertical lines (he did use technical names, but my memory is really bad) he said the white note should be black or it doesn't fit. Also the accents on the 9th line are backwards. And he also said there was no harmony. He even (after I insisted) played it on a guitar, and did not sound like anything you'd like to hear again.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:25 pm
cain
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Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 7 Location: Malaysia
I showed the pic to my friend who can play piano. According to him, if played on the piano, only the black keys are played (No white keys involved). And it makes no sense when played on the piano.
One thing worth a note here: If you open the piano and look inside it, each key has it's own number, from what he told me. He said he'd get back to me with the keys translated to numbers tomorrow. Hope it'll be helpful.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:37 pm
notgordian
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Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 1383 Location: Philly
It's the other way around--only the white keys are played.
There is one fairly famous piano key cipher where each key (using the numbering system your friend mentioned) is a letter in the alphabet--however, I have usually heard of that using the full range of keys (ie, the black keys too) so we'd be using sharps and flats for the "easy" key cipher.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:39 pm
taureanfreak
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Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 188
maybe the password is white then? but this is the third symphony and there a a queston mark by the name of the composer..... so maybe we are missing some notes (like the ones used for the black keys) and the password is the name of hte composer. That's all i've got right now, sorry.
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:54 am
Pied Piper
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Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 362
The notes don't measure out properly Okay, I was trying to put this into GarageBand (I forgot I had it, or I'd have done it already), and I noticed that there are certain measures that do not have the correct amount of time in them. There are extra notes, or too few notes. It was only as I was trying to put this into midi form that I realized that.
Oh, and Arkaham, I wish I'd paid more attention to your post. You're brother-in-law is right about the accents on the notes. The measure you're talking about, though, if I'm looking at the one you're talking about, has the correct value of notes.
So, I've marked down the measures which are incorrect in terms of the amount of time measured in it. The faulty ones are 1, 4, 8, 10, 11, and 24. If we add the two measures in which the accents are off, we would add 35 and 36 into the mix.
That gives us six or eight entries for the passcode, but I'm not sure how the answer page looks, since I'm green. Anyone care to take a screen snapshot and post it?
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:36 am
Wang Guantao
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Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 246
The meassure arka is talking about is faulty. third line, second measure.
it has a half note and 2 quarter notes and 2 eigth notes in it. making a 5/4 time signature as oposed to the 4/4 of most everything else.
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:54 am
Pied Piper
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This is not the full piece EDIT: I'm trying again to attach the MP3 file. Here goes nothin!
I'm attaching an MP3 file. It's not the complete melody, but I'll get the rest up once I'm finished it.
The last couple of measures are a little wonky.
I also want to point out that it sounds like whatever instrument this is for has the melody line only towards the beginning, and then has a harmony line.
And as for the way this ends, it is evident that it is not the end of the entire symphony. If it were, the right hand of the set of two vertical lines would be a thicker line than the other. Because they are the same, this is likely the end of the movement, or could be just a time signature change.
Anyway, anyone with musical friends can have them listen to it, and maybe we can clear this one.
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:19 am
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Arkaham
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Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 353
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That gives us six or eight entries for the passcode, but I'm not sure how the answer page looks, since I'm green. Anyone care to take a screen snapshot and post it?
There is nothing to see there. A single text box, same format of every other text box in the site.
I don't want to wast me last 400 creds on trying something there to see the 'wrong answer' message, but if someone has some credits to waste that may drop a hint.
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:22 pm
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