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[Wabonan]

lol don't feel bad I just been playing longer and have more puzzle breakers...
this is the one I use for anangrams
http://oneacross.com/
it is one of the best anagram programs I have found.
Hey and I don't mind being babied about being sick..... I never met a guy that didn't like that..lol.. But yea I went to the Doc...lol and I hate Doctors... It took alot for me to go... and the meds cost me $133.00 {thats with Insurance BTW) but I think I needed them...lol so hopefully I will be back to my normal sarcastic self in a few days.

[Das Llama]

hey June,

Both the letters and the card as cesar have been discussed. I think we are supposed to >trout you> and provide a link back to the thread. But we are all pretty new too ... so ... go do a search and reread it ... other wise it was no big deal. Good eye tthough thats what to look for.

If you have spare time, check out the UF player tutorial. It has a basic description of a lot of the code processes.

http://www.unfiction.com/dev/tutorial/

If you want better descriptions of code processes, google search ciphers / decryption or / hidden codes or the names of the different codes.


Das Llama

edit - misplaced link

[omega_ghost]

Hello everyone,
I have been lurking around for the past two days or so just reading all the events that happened previously and I think I am caught up to the present,at least I hope I am, I just want to make sure that people are still working on this code.

17 19 1 16 3 15 12 24 13 23 12 24

10 1 11 24 4 18 0 10 0 16 12 17

or has someone figured it out and I just happened to miss that post.

[Das Llama]

hey ghost,

This link is to the IN GAME forums. We refer to it as FET, short for FindEricTaylor forums. The puzzzle was nicely summarized by Nicole or Jabroni. You may wish to read and register there if you havent done so.

Link to puzzle thread.
http://finderictaylor.informe.com/puzzle-getting-to-know-the-cm-dt49.html

If you want to register there, use this link and make sure you return to this address if you want to log in and post. The main .com side dosent allow you to log in for some reason.

http://finderictaylor.informe.com/index.php

.com side of FET
http://finderictaylor.com/

Thanks for joining us, Eric needs all the help we can find.


Das Llama

[my2juneboys]

Hi! Thank you for the links, Das Llama!! They have been very, very helpful

Do you think the fact that Caesar (possibly Michael) had an affair with Brutus' (possibly the CM) mother is of any importance?

[omega_ghost]

Thank you for the links I must have missed them in the comings and goings of the different threads I was reading.

my2juneboys writes:
"Do you think the fact that Caesar (possibly Michael) had an affair with Brutus' (possibly the CM) mother is of any importance?"

possibly, but CM might be trying to start some sort of uprising(Caesar did start a civil war) for he does talk about recruitment and states that he will be striking at something.

[Das Llama]

[my2juneboys]

[my2juneboys]

[my2juneboys]

You are probably SOOOO tired of hearing from me. And I don't blame you at all...but...

I read in past posts from way back in April that BlessedMary1018 had to same feeling that the CM is Brutus.

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17209&start=885

So, We know the CM has already 'dipped his bread' and we need to find out who his Judas is.

I found a very interesting passage about Judas:

IX.—It has been read in some history that there was a man at Jerusalem, and his name was Reuben (who is Simon Peter?), and he was also called of the line of Iron of the tribe of Judas, or, according to others, of the line of Issachar. And he had a wife called Cyborea. And one night his wife fell asleep and saw a dream, and awoke in terror, and related it to her husband, groaning and lamenting the while. It appeared to me, said she, that I gave birth to a noble child, who would be the cause of perdition to a wicked generation. Whether it is an incantation that thou art prophesying, said Reuben, from God or from evil spirit or from vanity, this leads to mischief. If I have conceived, said the wife, doubtless it is no vanity but a vision.

X.—And when the time came that she should bring forth, a son was born her, and they feared the people because of it, and bethought them what they should do with him. And though they were in terror of the child, they could not do away with him. And yet, to prevent their being destroyed by the nation, they cast him in a leathern basket into the sea, and the waves threw him out to an island called Scarioth. And hero he was found, and was called Judas Scarioth thereafter. And the Queen of that place one day was walking hard by the sea beach, and discovered a vessel cast up by the waves to land. And the Queen commanded that it should be opened. And 'when it was opened, behold, there was a child of comely form. And with a groan she spake, O truly Son of God, said she, can I find comfort in this child as my heir, so that I may not leave my kingdom heirless? for I have no heir. And she bade them nurture the child secretly and feign that she was with child.

XI.—And in due time she said that a son was born her, and commanded it to be published throughout the kingdom. And the princes rejoiced greatly, and the people, that the Queen had an heir. And it was caused that the son should be nurtured as befitted his dignity. And no long time after, the Queen. conceived and gave birth to son. And when they were both reared together, and grew in years, they often 'wrangled, and Judas hurt the King's son, and made him weep repeatedly. And this was more than the Queen could bear, for Judas did not belong to her, and she beat the lad frequently; but for all that, he would not let the son alone. At last it was told Judas that he was not the Queen's son, but a chance child. And then shame fell upon Judas, and he killed the son of the King. And he fled from there to Jerusalem with comrades, for fear of destruction. And there he joined himself to the court of Pilatus, who was Governor there. And as all things that resemble each other in character harmonise, the ways of Judas and those of Pilatus at once agreed, and therefore Judas was dear to him. And so he gave Judas authority over all his possessions, and they ordained everything with full accord.

XII.—And one day Pilatus espied an orchard from his palace, and longed for the apples so much that be could not do without them. And this orchard belonged to Reuben, the father of Judas. And Reuben did not know Judas, nor Judas his father, because he had been cast into the sea when newly born, so that Judas did not know from what land he was sprung. Pilatus s called Judas to him, and told him that his desire of the apples was so strong that, unless be obtained them, he 'was likely to die. And at once Judas leapt into the orchard, and quickly took the apples. Meantime, lo, there was Reuben coming, and he found Judas gathering the apples. Thereupon they strove, and quarrelled, and fought together; and at last Judas cut off Reuben's head ; then he brought the apples to Pilatus, and related to him the mishap. And when day came and night was ended, Reuben was found dead. And then it was supposed that some other accident had befallen him. And thereupon Pilatus gave Judas all Reuben's powers together with Cyborea, Reuben's wife, to be the wife of Judas.

XIII.—And one day Cyborea was moaning. Judas asked her 'what had happened to her. it is, said she, that I am the most hapless of all women; I drowned my son in the sea, said she, and found my husband dead in my own orchard; and it increases my woes that I was given by Pilatus, the most wretched of women as I am, in wedlock to thee. And when she had related her misfortune, Judas related what had befallen him. And then it was found that it 'was his mother that he had taken to wife, and it was his father that he had slain. And then in repentance Cyborea came to our Lord Jesus Christ, to entreat of Him forgiveness of her sins. And the Lord made her son His disciple, and one of His apostles, and Judas became dear to Him, and He made him His steward, and then he was found to be a traitor in His service, and he carried the wallet in 'which 'were the things that were given to Christ.

Here is the link to the page where I quoted:

http://www.maryjones.us/ctexts/pilate.html

So...Judas killed his adopted brother and then his real father and married /had an incestuous relationship with his mother. Nice guy.

Notice the reference to the APPLE????

Now....assuming Simon Peter (Judas' father) is Michael...Jesus fortold that Simon Peter will deny his association to Jesus 3 times. Hmmm...it's interesting to me that most of us feel Michael is denying his association to the CM and is holding something back from us. Also, something else that might be important, late legend has it that Simon Peter also fathered a daughter named, Virgin Martyr Petronilla.

I apologize in advance, if once again, I am rehashing something that has already been discussed. I promise you that I am doing searches and reading past posts!!!

I'm like a bulldog....once I get a hold of something I can't let go!

[Wabonan]

humm I just sent a nasty e-mail to the CM about his lack of puzzles maybe we can get a new one soon
EDIT
my2juneboys don't let anyone tell you you are doing something wrong by posting too much....lol...... we need everyone to input if we are going to figure this out. its the hivemind.... without everyones input we only have pieces of the puzzle... and no one can put them all together... but by contributing...even a small piece of the puzzle... someone will figure it all out... don't feel bad if you aren't the solver.... you gotta know though without your input and my input and everyone elses input we would never figure out anything...lol

[my2juneboys]

Ahhh! Thank you for that, Wobonan! I have you tell you honestly that I don't care if I'm the one to solve the puzzle. I just want it solved and to find out who the CM is! There is no way I'm going to solve it. I just want to help you veterans by giving you as much information as I can so that you can put it all together!!

I hope you are feeling better. Make sure you take all your meds

[Windmill Hill]

Hi June! (and welcome!)

I don't think those texts/that alternate history of Judas would be recognized by the catholic church of which our CM is a part. Those are some sort of celtic folklore about the church (I think).

Rather than diving into Cesear-Brutus/Christ-Judas symbolism in depth, we might learn more from just watching the forums. Some time ago I emailed the CM and asked him if he knew who was to betray him and he said he didn't know but that we would find out.

My guess is that he's waiting to see which of us betray him by going over to TDC. So I think his Brutus/Judas figure is somewhere among us (his disciples?) and we have yet to betray him.

Also, my two cents about your interpretation of the pedigree chart - I was getting a bit lost in the way you were handling the relationships. I believe a single line connecting two people from different lineages means they are married.

A -- B

And if they are siblings they both have a link to the parents.

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A----B EDIT: This is supposed to look like an upside down T, but didn't show up correctly here...

I think in a few places these were a bit hazy on your chart (specifically, at one point I think I remember eric and mary being labeled as being a married couple). Would you mind clarifying?

Good ideas though! and right on Wabo - Hive minds rule!

[my2juneboys]

Hi Windmill! Thank you for your kind words. You might be right about those references not being recognized by the Catholic church. I am a Catholic, so I know the beliefs.

But, on the other side of that coin, my father always said "There are no such thing as coincidences when you are in the middle of an investigation". And that always stuck with me.

I thought (which was probably my first mistake) that the top two square and circle would be the married couple, then anything attached below them would be sons & daughters. And so on and so on. Is that wrong??

[my2juneboys]

Oh! Forget that comment about "anything below the parents". I understand what you are saying now!

Ok...I'll be quiet now and watch the posts