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Hey, this is kinda of random, but reading the kmq sunglasses blog, I noticed something about the Austin convention center in Texas. Allen lives in Houston. maybe these two planned on meeting there or something?

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 		You don't have mail =(
I've mailed Allen Portman of Texas asking what paper he use to work for so I could check out his photos: Waiting on reply

I mailed Jpike 2 days ago asking if he could get Allen's full name for us since his landlady should have been back by then: Still no reply

Not sure when Mr. WB is going to contact Perfidy1942 so I guess we're just waiting on emails and such.

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 		I've seen a bunch of photo sites that have contributions by Alan Portman, I saw them the first time I went searching when we first got his name. It's mostly wildlife stuff, some birds (no Osprey, I checked), some fungi... picture of a dog with a friend of his. Assuming this is the same photographer Alan that you've found. There was also a comment on one of these sites asking if he was THE Alan Portman from "the sichlids", which is kinda weird considering that myspace link before.

EDIT: Here you are: http://www.pbase.com/nalla/profile and http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/postersprofile.asp?poster=hjixikiuhvig

The reason that I found him under "Alan" was because this was the spelling that jpike used, so that's what I used in my search. The mention of the Sichlids[sic] is under Guestbook in the first link.

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I think that Alan Portman is from New Zealand.. I'm thinking he's a little too far removed from our story. He's also a horticulturist.

BTW, good work on all the research thats been done. I know a lot of time and work has and still is being put into this.

Very Happy We're making progress Very Happy
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 		Band -> Prison -> Song Title -> Newspaper
The_Effect wrote:
Spandau Ballet

They were named after a Nazis prison Spandau...


Hi, been lurking for a bit. I tried to catch up late last week, but then missed everything over the weekend.

We were told that the paper shared its name with a song by a band from the "early 80s" who had a name similar to (or in common with or the reminded him of ) a prison.

If it is Spandau Ballet, which seems reasonably likely, we have a few good song titles to follow up on:

Lifeline
Communication
True
Gold

Those are in chronological order and a search for "lifeline newspaper" (not as a closed term) pointed me at this:
http://www.beaufortgazette.com/special_sections/lifeline/

There are a few other random hits for Lifeline-based searches, but none are especially promising.

Keeping in the synthpop vein (After all he was excited about meeting Moby),

Soft Cell – "Torch"
Berlin – "The Metro"
Yazoo - Federal Correctional Institution, Yazoo City
- "State Farm"
- "Good Times" - Talkeetna AK http://www.talkeetnanews.com/about06.htm
 - http://goodtimesmag.com/
 http://www.peacecity1.com/goodtimes/Good%20Times%202/29.htm

- "Situation"

This is not a complete list, but work seems to have intruded on my personal research.

Are we looking for a paper in a particular area or published during a particular timeframe?

Also, t.petel seems to use both spellings of the name seemed in the conversation: allen and alan.

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 		The only thing I'm going to say is this, if it were that easy to find Alan Portman, don't you think a government department with it's resources could do it a whole lot faster.

tpetal gave us everything we needed to find the newspaper he wrote for. Stick with the facts you have in front of you, stop and think and leave the real Alan Portmans alone.

zizka I think that is the right train of thought but I would imagine the prison to be US based, and tpetal mentioned 2 that it wasn't, as for Moby has he covered or used any samples from bands from the 80's.

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 		ok, as i take it, he meant meeting a band member by 'meeting moby.' if so, spandau ballet is incorrect. none of the band members are names moby. if moby had nothing to do with the rock band tpetal was talking about, i'd say communication would be the best song to check out.

in regards to http://starrfirerecording.com/index.html , i think that is our allen. think about it. music was so important to him (according to the myspace page earlier). i'll stay on and research more, but i have to go soon.

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 		Journalists Association
Don't journalists have to register with a national registry or something?
Even if the journalists themselves didn't have to register I would think the paper itself would be required to list its writers.

As I said before- almost every prison has a newspaper written by it's prisoners and almost every prison has had a punk or electronica song written using its name in the title. These two facts severely complicates things.

Don't get discouraged though.. Keep digging Very Happy

Given the fact that OIS shouldn't know anything about what was on the Skype messages, they should still be rummaging around with what little info Jeff(Jpike) let slip.
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Yazoo, MS is the location of a Federal and a state prison. Yazoo is also the name of an early 80s synthpop band.

Moby, I assume, is the late 90s/early 2000s electro-pop artist. The mention of Moby, who would have been far too young to be in a band in the early 80s, has put me on to dreampop, synthpop, new wave, early punk, hause, dance pop, or early electronic artists. I looked, albeit briefly, at a list of Prisons in the US (his mention of 2 US prisons perhaps suggests that we need to think US domestic) and then at lists of artists in a few of the genres I named. If it weren't time to punch out, I'd finish the list; perhaps I'll be able to this evening.

My clever MS Word formating got eaten by the forum monster, but I have at least tem,porarily setteled on chasing the Yazoo lead. A brief look at their song titles gave one solidly promising newspaper-type name: "Good Times." One paper leapt out immediately, but it is in Alaska--not updated since 2006. Another monthly 'ad rag' in Long Island goes by the same name. It is (or was--not updated since 2000) also the official paper of "Peace City," whatever that is.

Forgive my longwindedness. I mean to say: Yazoo is the name of an early 80s band who may have appealed t oa person "excited to meet Moby." Yazoo is also the name of a prison. Seems Yazoo might be a solid lead; now we need to figure out which song shares its name with a small paper. Maybe work will be light tomorrow and I can stomp around on the intarnets. Very Happy

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 		Connect the dots
Most colleges have databases with search engines covering almost all published periodicals and newspapers. i.e. Lexisnexis etc.

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 		Can you ask tpetal
band
I think we could come up with many different names/bands/songs/prison that all relate somehow. Can we ask tpetal for more information? Indirectly on his blog perhaps?

This is my wild guess: OMD (Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark)
Dark Prisons (US Security something or other in Afghanistan)
Song: Telegraph

Newspaper: The Daily Telegraph
location: ??? (maybe Illinois)
website: www.zwire.com that says its out of service, go to www.thetelegraph.com (but nothing comes up for me for this site)
No one said that Alan was writing under his own name or not....(or Allen)

I am also thinking that the band should sound more like a major prison, e.g. Attica, Alcatraz, Angora, Folsom, Leavenworth, San Quentin, Sing Sing. And also, if Alan lived near Gerry park, Miami FL, then the paper he wrote for might be near there?

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 		The past is the past.
Good work coffeebean.

Burningman just called me and confirmed that they are running spamtraps and congratulated us on being the first people to find them LOL.
They're IT department also said Larry is unavailable atm being as he is in the middle of the desert setting up the preliminary parts of Burning Man Festival.


Tpetal said Allen only wrote a couple articles for this paper. So chances are that if hes in a byline its going to be in their archives..
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fedgerama wrote:

in regards to http://starrfirerecording.com/index.html , i think that is our allen. think about it. music was so important to him (according to the myspace page earlier). i'll stay on and research more, but i have to go soon.


Has this been posted before?
http://www.myspace.com/aportman

I don't think it is in game although he says "I love sequencing ambient electronica-based music."

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 		Second craft journal?
Gulma Inc Sundries
I was going back through some of the older stuff and was trying to find out some more information. I dont know if anyone ever brought this up but in the second you tube message he speaks of a sundries company across from a park in miami, fl. That company is called Gulma Inc. Sundries. There is something written on the awning that is part of a website.

Is anyone near Miami that can go to Gerry Curtis park and stand in the northwest corner viewing the building? Also if someone could call and ask them what is written on the awning their number is (305) 638-1756


Thanks,

The Effect

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 		Gulma?
If you google map that corner, and look at the street view, it's KMQ sunglasses.... where did Gulma come from?

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