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Perfidy1942
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Location: Allentown

T.Petal
Timeline Delivered

As promised we have a timeline from T.Petal.

(click for looong URL link to google maps)

Also I see that JPike has returned. Lets follow T.Petal's advice and leave him alone. He has been missing for awhile and we can not be sure that Green's people have not taken over his account. Also JPike is of no use to us now that we found T.Petal.

Happy Hunting.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:33 pm

Coffeebean
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that's a timeline?

It's just three locations on a map...of places we already knew of...so what's a timeline? And where did you get that?

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:49 pm

Perfidy1942
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Re: that's a timeline?

Coffeebean wrote:

It's just three locations on a map...of places we already knew of...so what's a timeline? And where did you get that?

T.Petal just sent it to me via email. Read the transcript from last night everything you need to know has already been posted.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:55 pm

Coffeebean
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Ive already read everything

I just don't get it....I thought a timeline is everything that happened in a certain order of events. 3 locations on a map tells me nothing. Maybe I am missing something in the link? Is there more than one page?

Do explain instead of saying "read it yourself" .. trust me, many of us have nothing else to do since we are not part of the game.....since you are, then try to be a little more helpful...all that fame is going to your head.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:10 am

Perfidy1942
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New Message from Petal
These just keep coming in...

Petal just replied with some info to help Surfzoned get ahold of Allen. Currently Surfzoned is in communication with a person at Heaven is a Secret. We should be able to get a message to Allen in the next few days.

I have posted the important part of the email below:

Quote:

Jeff is dead.

I checked a couple things after we talked. He died in a car accident on the night on June 29th. The accident report says that he ran head-on into a metal street light at high speed. He was on his way home from a club where was was seen by many people to have been drinking heavily. He didn't have any family.

If you get anything from him it is almost certainly from Green or his people.

I've got to go. I'll be in touch when I can, or if I find anything else.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:49 am

Coffeebean
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Re: New Message from Petal
These just keep coming in...

Perfidy1942 wrote:

I have posted the important part of the email below:

Ok...how is this game going to be played out (by EVERYONE) if you are deciding what bits and pieces to "let" us have? Was there more to the other email with the timeline? Just because you think something is unimportant, someone else may have other ideas. If you want to play this by yourself, then go ahead.....I'm done if this is the way this game is going to go.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:10 am

Perfidy1942
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Coffee Makes a Good Point
The beginning of the email...

Quote:

I don't know Pete, but if his paper accepted something that Allen wrote then he is very likely out on the fringe. Allen was all over the place at SXSW, meeting with lots of people. I wasn't aware that he was meeting with film people, though. But I know Allen is a film buff. Especially documentaries. I read Pete's questions as surprise, but I'm not sure what would have surprised him about what Sebring wrote.

I would play it honest but close with Pete, if he catches someone in a lie he'll shut down. I know I would. He obviously feels protective of Allen, if you can convince him you are trying to help Allen he may talk to you. Tell him that you do not want to meet or contact Allen directly, that you just want to get information to him and that you are willing to provide that through him or some other cut-out or method that he stipulates. That will show him that he is in control.

I am not sure if this is going to make alot of sense to anyone but Pete is the guy that Surfzoned/Sebring is communicating with. This is just some information to help him get Pete to open up and get us to Allen.

I did not intend to withhold information, I just figured that this would fill up the board with information that would be unclear and useless to anyone except Sebring. But I do see your point and I apologize for keeping this from everyone.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:17 am

surfzoned
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Once again waiting on a reply
Pete

My email to Pete

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Pete,

If you can email me a drop-box email address where I can leave Allen the story/information and I know its secure that would work for me.

Appreciate your patience with me,
Sebring

I know we have had some problems with turncoats, which has been dealt with, and I'm getting the vibe that there is a divide and conquer tactic being used against us. Don't let them divide us.
We need different types of people looking at this from different angles.
I know Coffeebean, Abraxas, and Mortality have brought to light some things for me recently that I wouldn't have seen otherwise. There are MANY more I didn't name that have helped too (too many to list in fact).

We all want to solve this and its going to take ALL of us to do it.

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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:18 am

Abraxas
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Location: Cologne, Germany

observations on timeline

Coffeebean:
Not sure if you caught that, but you can click the 3 nodes and get information on the first 3 collateral files that way. While it's not some huge revelation, there is lots of little new stuff. It's most likely the equivalent of a guide and unfinished at this point. He must be still in the process of rebuilding. I hope. Previously unknown details - unless I missed something - of note are:

File 1
* The name of the OIS Director of Operations (DOPS, I suppose) is James Edwards.
* The name of the OIS Deputy Director of Operations - SE (that would be DDOPS - ...Special something? he and Claudia seem to be the same department and she is in Special) is William Keenan. Now we got that last name that was missing. That opposes my earlier spec about William being Foster as well as William being the Under Secretary of Sci/Tech.
* Fund raiser on 17th.
* Plus, a friend of t.petal works "up there". I guess that is the Westin hotel. That's probably not important in the future, though.

File 2
* We were probably supposed to make the connection between McLean and cold war bunkers. If that's not made up, which I don't know. Anyways, now we know that the building comes with the obligatory underground complex.

File 3
Nothing you didn't find out on your own, yet.

Surfzoned:
Hm, thanks. Wink

I suppose you are talking about the William stuff. Too bad it turned out to be all wrong, though.

Perfidy1942:
I'm sure you meant no harm, but I agree with Coffeebean in that you should share everything you get, as much of a rambling it might seem to be.
Keep up the good work as a liaison! Smile

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:33 am

mystic26
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Joined: 03 Jul 2007
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thats a lot of small info...

okay... now where does that leave us? i think the names we still dont have are VERY important.... i think Larry is very important... i think tpetals name can be held off for now... however, contacting these people might not be a good idea.
next time someone contacts tpetal, they have to ask him where he is going. skype and the blogspot site probably wont last much longer.
i dont even know what to search for right now.
surfzoned, what do you mean "the turncoats have been dealt with"?

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:35 am

zizka
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Location: Basement of the Alamo

lousey time for google maps to go down

It may not have ben the information-rich timeline we'd hoped for, but at least you could open it :[ I've still not seen it. I made a google earth map file of all the locations we know about, and I'd like to add these, too. At least it looks like it's a problem with google and not the link.

I have a honest-to-the-name timeline, but it's in word and all color coded. I'm sure it would wreck the forums if I posted it directly.

The other things I've worked up are brief descriptions and analysis of hte collarteral files, etc. Not much there that will help us at this point, but it may be useful for new joiners or anyone who feels lost. Some of it is probably going to be important later. I'm really not sure how to deliver this info, though.

If anyone wants these files, PM me. I may be able to attach it to a PM or will gladly Email it to you directly: google earth map file, timeline, file descriptions, and brief narrative synopsis are what's available.

We'll need to discuss how having a spy on the boards is going to affect our ability to communicate or how it will affect the outcome if we were to talk openly.

brax, I'm fairly sure Foster = Vince Foster, since his death is of particular interest to conspiracy theorists.

Cheers, I'm off to save the world (VG time Very Happy

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seifer13
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Re: thats a lot of small info...

mystic26 wrote:

I am also interested in the turncoats as well. Are there more than we prevously thought?

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:23 pm

Jaybird
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Joined: 23 Jun 2007
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Location: Merry Olde Englande

Okay, everyone seems to be dismissing, or at least not mentioning, the fact that Jeff has been dead for over two weeks. These guys drew first blood.

Also, this must mean that the recent logging in on his account was either to gain info, as was previously suggested, or just a muck-up. If we're going for interesting narrative, i'd say the former.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:27 pm

Abraxas
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Location: Cologne, Germany

Re: thats a lot of small info...

mystic26 wrote:

I think Larry is part of the flavor. To make t.petal's connection to SXSW more realistic. I doubt we should pursue real life persons.

We are waiting for either of two things, now:
1. Peter's response to Surfzoned's mail.
2. More of the timeline from t.petal.

In the meantime I did similar work as Zizka. Just sketchy into a notepad. I 'm interested in piecing together the files we got so far, getting the whole picture of what this is about. I think there's great attention to detail already up to this point.

I LOVE working with Google Earth. The last of these things I got into blew up quite fast, but had some nice map work.
While I dig this sort of stuff, I'm probably not as good at it as I wish to be...for instance, I can't seem to find the Borders on K-Street in Google Earth...I checked Restaurants and Businesses, but got nothing of the sort.
Well, I enjoy it, anyway. Razz

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:48 pm

zizka
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borders

I had a really tough time finding it, but eventually it was there. iirc, it wouls show up only at a specific zoom level. It's in a building that is shaped roughly like an inverted, backwards "L" and is adjacent to an Electircal Engineering building (IEEE, iirc). It's very near and to the west of Connecticut ave.

Jay: I had felt like the new logs on Jeff's youtube were probably "outsiders." It's pretty chilling to say the least. We really got him in it with our emails to Green. The most we can do is try to recall what PMs we sent him on or after 6/29. These would have been intercepted.

back to VG crime fighting. Very Happy

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