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konamouse
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[VIDEO] Discuss the different videos in here. Bad acting? Or is she part of the kidnapping?
Bad filming? Or is Max just not very good with the camera.
Is there a clue in that video?
You decide.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:35 pm
miamimama
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Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 8
I posted this once but got no response...maybe some one will notice here or at least tell me this is astupid conclusion to reach.
Newbie here ... but I noticed something that i don't think has been mentioned. On the first day's video the kidnappers video has 8min in the bottom right hand corner and the home video shot has 26 min in the bottom right hand corner. Leading one to believe they were shot by same person. Not having picked up a "cam-corder" in a LONG time i have no idea if this is significant...but i am taking it to mean the same camera was used for the shooting and that the kidnappers ransom video was shot first (8 min) and that the video taping of the kidnapping was shot second or 26 min into the tape. Which tends to support the max, andrew theory.
On the other hand some support goes to the bootleggers theory just by the kidnappers words in the ransom video WE(meaning more than one)were HIRED to do a job ....
Also how do you know that that Frank's sister died, is this from from "hacked" info or have i missed something in the current info?
Thanks
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:36 pm
joechick
Kilroy
Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Posts: 2
Tell me if I'm crazy ... But do these things match up?
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It looks like he's being held in a small rectangular space on the side of a building, much like a garage or a loading dock... the light fixtures and piping are identical to the ones in the Akarm building, and there's an outside light that is visible on the outside of the building in the kidnappers video. In the security video there is light coming in from the right side of the screen, which would have to be from an outside light. It does feel like the space he's in is smaller than the loading dock in the security camera. I would say maybe half the size... if you look in the video there's a small door/vent rectangular area which could be the bottom of the rectangular area in the security film. Also the floor is the slick cement that is visible leading into the area.
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My thoughts are that he's either in the loading dock in the security camera and you can see the outside light, or he's being held in the small rectangular room that you can see inside the dock and the light you see is the one on the inside. [/img]
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:40 pm
unclet7
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video time I have been asking the same questions since I viewed the security cams. Thesame light fixture in the second Kidnappers video (elemental) clearly shows the same light fixture that is outside the elevator. Also, I believe the 8 minutes is the amount of time remaining on the tape, but I agree and have been screaming this for two days.... does anyone still have a copy of the eyewitness video that shows the 26 min? or know what the eyewitness name was? it was listed with the original article (which has been pulled from the paper. I am thinking that the ransom videos are being shot from inside the elevator into the hall (notice not only the light fixture but the brick work in the walls and the fact that there is a reflective surface on both sides of the chair in both ransom videos(indicative of many elevators)
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:17 am
KermieD
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Joined: 16 Mar 2003 Posts: 70
Kept for 2 weeks in the loading dock of a pharmaceutical company? Why would Christina need us when a street bum looking for an overhang to sleep under could collect the $25K? That buys a lot of Boone's Farm!!
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:33 am
TXVisitor
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Not kept for 2 weeks in the loading dock, taken into the Akarm facility through the loading dock (or parking garage) to the room where he is being held.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:36 am
KermieD
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Joined: 16 Mar 2003 Posts: 70
Why stop in the loading dock to tie the guy to a chair and film a video if you're just down the hall from where you're going to hold him?
EDIT: Also, the hallway in the video is far narrower than the loading dock.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:39 am
TXVisitor
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I don't think he was filmed IN the loading dock. I also don't think he's in a chair, it looks more like he's sitting on a box.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:45 am
KermieD
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Joined: 16 Mar 2003 Posts: 70
Either way, I don't see the point of stopping at a spot open to the outside world to film a video when you're down the hall from where you're going to keep the guy for the next 2 weeks. I think it's either coincidental or another example of the amateurish nature of this particular game.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:57 am
TXVisitor
Guest
I tend to go along with your 'amateur' theory.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:14 am
joechick
Kilroy
Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Posts: 2
Well I'm also starting to think that it's Sonias video at the very beginning... she's the only woman that's a suspect, the woman in the video has a dog and in Sonias blog she says she can't wait to rescue a dog rather than buy a new one from a pet store and talks about being an animal lover... and she was suppose to be meeting Andrew there at that time.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:29 am
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