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cows
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jaybird, you never mentioned what section you found Gullivers Travels in

Care to enlighten us?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:33 am
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flossj
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It appears my first line was from Alice in Wonderland, but it was misquoted to say 'me' instead of 'her'.

my last line was from Wind in the Willows, but again, slightly misquoted.

No wonder I didn't find them when I did a normal google search!!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:11 am
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Barefoot Andy
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Hmmm, sorry I can't help with the finding books, (although let me know if there's something in Birmingham expected and I'll see what I can do).

But keeping an eye of the Fforum, it appears that Niebla, who has the same odd writing style as the Fffake is after endings

Quote:
I have a vital-most request
For you my Ffforum friends
Please tell me,if you have the time,
Of your most favourite ends.

My dears,I am always wind blown away by your book cleverness so I would, if you have a momentspace to care, like to ask you to tell me what your finest book endings are. How do goodmost endings work? What words do they use and in what order? Tell me the glorybest endings of the greatest books? Tell me them! And then we will play a game of BookEnds?

How do you begin a game about Endings? What rules? Perhaps you should tell me the best endings and I should have to thinkguess them?

Can you help?

What is the perfect end?

Please help!

This message has an end now, but I'm not thinking it is glorymost!

YG

Niebla


So it appears Fffake is stealing bits from books, taking suggestions from the fforde ffans to put together a book, which he can pass off as the new Fforde book. And has got up to the ending, or nearly. They clearly can't write themself, so they need to cannibalise other books for their work, and want to know what people like.

Incidentally, amongst the aspects of books requested (perfect plot twist, villain, hero etc.) Niebla wants to know the "Best Page 49" how does this match to people who have the messed up books.

Ffake goes by the name Niebla, which might be the name of a character from literature, but my poor google-fu brings up the name of a novel:
http://www.amazon.com/Niebla-Letras-Hispanicas-Unamuno-Miguel/dp/8437603471

and that it's the spanish for "fog".
Can anyone more learned in Literature than I think of anything?[/quote]

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Going back to Niebla (and I know I'm rehashing a theory I mentioned before) I think his Six Degrees from Francis Bacon post pins him not only as the ffake Ffforde but also as Conrad Margetts, the Baconian activist recently released from 20 years of enloopment in Swindon. Oh, and the Niebla book shows up in the second classic literature quiz.

Amy's latest blog post asks for theories, so I sent in the idea earlier today. We'll see what comes of it.

Oh, and regarding the location for the Swindon event on the 7th--I think the fake Ffforde will instruct people who expressed interest in attending through the Scribbler entries on the super secret special location (since he is apparently the mastermind behind that particular activity)

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OT - but I can't believe that Scott's not posted yet - the fF's would be right up his street Wink

Brother contacted - now it's badgering him to go time Smile If anyone has never been to St. Ives that would be a wonderful one to do. It's a beautiful place. Redruth, not quite so beautiful. Where are the Cornish ARGers?!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:22 am
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cows
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I count as a Cornish ARGer, however i've been busy over the last few days and I must have missed something somewhere - when did any of the books end up this far down the country???

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June Haversham posted a list of places known to have these blasted things on her blog the other day. Mostly Waterstone's with a few other bookshops chucked in, and several libraries (though I didn't find owt at Wokingham Library yesterday). Just going off to Reading now.
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Jaybird
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heh, Gulliver was just in Classics, forgot to mention, i'm a bit rushed at the moment!

Uploading a few more pics to my Flickr, of the other page (I went back and photographed it properly today) They're a bit blurry, but for a bookshop it's a damn poorly lit place!

http://flickr.com/photos/9416224@N06/

That's my flickr, go nuts with it. It has the quotes of what the extra page says also.

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Sarah B
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If the Pride and Prejudice has a page of lines in, I'll be able to tell you if they're from the book or not. Otherwise, my knowledge of classics is woeful, I'm afriad.

I must enter the scribbler; I haven't gotten around to it yet. Been far too busy! I'll try and cobble something together tonight though. My opening line is from Gulliver's Travels: "What those people were doing I was unable to distinguish" and my closing line from Tristram Shandy: "Writing, when properly managed (as you may be sure I think mine is) is but a different name for conversation".

Do you think we should boycott Niebla's posts on the fforum, or answer? I'm not sure we should be too obvious that we're onto him/her.

Oh, and I'm all set for a trip to Cheltenham tomorrow. Smile
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Jaybird
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Okaaay, just got some free time (FINALLY!)

Checked on google, the the lines from the page in Gulliver are from the book, not any new book we may need to be searching for!

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Success!!

Huzzah! I don't suck any more Very Happy I found Tristram Shandy in the Classics section of Waterstone's in Reading. Photos are on Flickr, but there's nothing new (except a handwritten label on the back of the book saying "DISPLAY COPY - NOT FOR SALE" Laughing I guess someone tried to purchase the damn thing.

Next stop, Fareham. Nice trip to the seaside.

As for the scribbler, my starter line is "Not my secret, but another's." which I think is from Great Expectations, and my finisher is "Although he be as learned a person as any in his dominions, he had been educated in the study of philosophy." which seems to be from Gulliver.
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Well done myf!

I've put together an excel spreadsheet of where we're finding these books. There's so many locations that if there's a different book in each place we're looking for a lot more books than we thought we were!



Also, it seems so far that all (two, haha) of the books found outside Folyes were in the classics section. So maybe that'll help us in searching the other bookshops?

Code:

Bath, Waterstone's      
Birmingham, Waterstone's (New Street)      
Blackburn Library      
Bolton, Waterstone's      
Cambridge, Border's      
Canterbury, Waterstone's      
Cheltenham, Waterstone's      
Darwen Library      
Fareham, Waterstone's      
High Wycombe, Waterstone's      
Ipswich, Waterstone's            Gulliver's Travels        Classics
Leeds, The Idle Hour      
London, Forbidden Planet      
London, Foyle's                  Wind in the Willows       Crime
London, Foyle's                  Pride & Prejudice         Politics
London, Foyle's                  Wuthering Heights         Self-help
London, Foyle's                  Collected E.A.Poe         Ornithology
London, Foyle's                  Picture of Dorian Gray    Art History
London, Foyle's      
London, Foyle's      
Neath Library      
Nottingham, Waterstone's      
Reading, Waterstone's            Tristram Shandy           Classics
Redruth Library      
St Ive's Library      
Swindon, Waterstone's      
Whitby, The Whitby Bookshop      
Wokingham Library      
Yeovil, Waterstone's      

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So Tristram Shandy's poem is Wind in The Willows again? We seem to not get a new poem except from the Foyles ones. Hmph. Wink

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Thanks for the list Sarah,

I will have to attempt to make it to both Redruth and St Ives libraries in the next few days. Redruth shouldn't be a problem - however if anybody happens to live close to St Ives you are more than welcome to go there to look Smile

Otherwise I can do that one too...

I'll see if I can round up some troops to get a more efficient search Smile

Cows

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How about making it a Google spreadsheet (or something similar)? Then people can update it as they find stuff (I've taken my optimism pill for the day, it seems!).
I think it would be worth adding an additional column or two, so we can keep track of what book is referenced in the text in each one we find, and whether there's any other text in the books.

I was so pleased at finding this one within 5 minutes of getting in the shop! I looked through the general Fiction bit first, checking under the letter for each author's name, but didn't find anything. I remembered that other one being in Classics, so made that my next target, and there it was Very Happy I suspect I might even have squeaked with delight when I found it Embarassed

Now that I'm feeling more confident in my book-hunting skills, if I can I'll go back to Wokingham library early next week and have another look - probably concentrating on the Classics bit if there is one (that place has no logic to it at all)
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