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myf
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A better trip today - went to High Wycombe, and found a copy of Wind In The Willows. Photos are in the Flickr group. If you've got photos of any of the other books, and have put them on Flickr, please add them to the group (mine are also on the map so it's easy to see what was where).

This copy was a thick hardback (the original one we found was a thinner paperback version). The text on the back appeared to be the same as on the others. The passage inside refers to Tristram Shandy:

"A mixture of beer and lemonade
This gent enriches my tale:
His narrative styles
And wordsmithing wiles
Mean my Fffiasco cannot fffail."

There was a second page with text on, in four different paragraphs:

"...always straying off and getting lost, and turning up again; he's so adventurous. But no harm ever happens to him..."

"...hasn't learned to swim very well yet, and I can see he's thinking of the weir. There's a lot of water coming down still, considering the time of the year, and the place always had a fascination for the child..."

"...wakes to find itself alone and laid in a strange place, and searches corners and cupboards, and runs from room to room, despair growing silently in its heart..."

"...fully up by now, and hot on them, birds sang lustily and without restraint, and flowers smiled and nodded from either bank, but somehow...with less of richness and blaze of colour than they seemed to remember seeing quite recently somewhere..."

All four passages are indeed from Wind In The Willows.
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Canzonett
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Great work! But again: What are we supposed to deduce from this? (I am probably not supposed to deduce anything, not being a UK-resident etc etc)

I want more input.
Do you think the silence in June's and Amy's weblogs might indicate that something is amiss?

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Etta
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myf- Congrats on your find. Which section was it shelved under??

June emailed me yesterday evening (no new information), so she's still out there somewhere. Or at least she was yesterday.

I agree that there must be something we're supposed to learn from these books. Why else would we be looking for them? But I don't know what.

Off to Whitby in the morning...

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I emailed Amy about finding Gullivers a few days ago, and no reply yet. Worrying...

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myf
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Ooops, I thought I'd posted where it was, but obviously not. It was on a shelf labelled "Fairy Tales and Classics" in the kids section.

I'm going to email Amy with my recent progress, so hopefully someone will hear something soon.
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Right, anyone who has asked to be added to the spreadsheet should now have been done so. Anyone who would still like to be added, send me a pm. Smile

I do have pictures of Alice in Cheltenham, but haven't managed to upload them yet. As soon as I do I'll get them on the flickr group.

I've heard no more from June recently. Hmm. Hope she's ok!
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Canzonett
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The only new trace has been left by our mysterious Niebla on the Fforde Fforum yesterday:

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Re: BookEnds! help most needed
Posted by: Niebla (78.86.7.---)
Date: July 01, 2007 08:37PM

Thankyou most my fffriends for you helpings so far, I am exploring these endings and they will assisting oh yes.

I have started reading the endings to many much of the books you mentioninged and I must say that manymost of them seemed to make little sense, although I am suremost they are good. Perhappenchance I will read the rest of the books when I have more time. Although as of this today I have muchlittle time. Prinzhilde, I manymuchmost liked your ending, but I can't beguess it yet. It made me feel strange and wobblesome.

Skidmarks, I am puzzle most by your riddlemeroo, I am thinking hard but can you clue me about this book? Is the book a classic or a new one? What does it say on page 49? Who by is it?

Please keep helpmosting, I am very moved by you all. You are much most my friends.

YG

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Idle Hour, Leeds - Two Books Found!

I'm new here and have only just discovered the joys of unfiction, but I have been a big Jasper fan for sometime so have been following proceedings over the last couple of days.

Anyway, I have just got back from a visit to The Idle Hour in Leeds (I work close by) and have found Great Expectations and Tristam Shandy.

The bookshop is a small independant and both books were located in the general fiction section.

The appearance of the books was as before, Great Expectations was a softback and Tristam Shandy a hardback. Both books contained blank pages save for the same verse;

"Some folk took a trip down the river
But now their boat drifts alone
For this eloquent three
Are now working for me
In my glorious Pepysian tome"

Loks like FFF has the Three Men in a Boat as well.

Great Expectations also had another page with the following text;

...obliged to take precedence
...an indigestive single woman
...her rigidity religion, and her liver love
...she have twenty pound down

The lines did not follow each other but were dotted around the page.

I'm not sure I know where all this is leading just yet, but at least we have a further piece of the puzzle. Will somone update the spreadsheet?

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Slavetrader, that Ffforde ...

Hm, I guess something fishy is going on with Amy's blog. The date of the last entry is given as "Saturday, 7 July 2007" - which corresponds to the title of the last entry in June's blog ("7th July 2007") but seems quite impossible from a chronological point of view.

PS
How can anyone write such relatively good verses and such rotten prose? An indication that fffake Ffforde originally belongs in poetry?

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Hm, I guess something fishy is going on with Amy's blog. The date of the last entry is given as "Saturday, 7 July 2007" - which corresponds to the title of the last entry in June's blog ("7th July 2007") but seems quite impossible from a chronological point of view.

I don't suppose someone from the Chronoguard could be involved?

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Sarah B
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More emphasis on page 49! How odd. Just a thought; is it page 49 which these verses are appearing on in the books? It's a bit far for me to go back to Cheltenham to check!

And is it just me, or does Niebla's writing seem to be getting less coherent as time goes by?

As to the blogs, June's blog is written on the 2nd, about the 7th. So I don't see a problem there. What does interest me is the talk of Peter and Wendy. Sound familiar to Peter Pan, anyone? Also, June is feeling a little fuzzy... she's not a book character too, is she? Who is being slowly deleted?

I have no ideas who Fforde really is, unless I'm supposed to take the Peter and Wendy thing and deduce that he is, in fact, Captain Hook.

In the Ffordian universe, there are people who can make you forget who they were, mnemomorphs (I can't spell it, lol) like Aornis Hades. Perhaps this is another of the Hades family who is doing this?
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Sarah B wrote:
In the Ffordian universe, there are people who can make you forget who they were, mnemomorphs (I can't spell it, lol) like Aornis Hades. Perhaps this is another of the Hades family who is doing this?


I thought exactly the same thing, particularly when I read this section of June Haversham's latest blog post:

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What is strange is that when he ran away she couldn't remember him properly. (I asked Amy if this was because she is old, but Amy said not to say that too loud in certain company, and that it was different to just forgetting, more like every time Miss Haversham tried to remember, the thoughts hid from her).


It sounds a lot like Aornis's particular talent and it's worth remembering that Aornis herself is still at large. Perhaps our fffake Ffforde is another brother or possibly, given his youth, even a son?

I don't think he's the actual Compeyson despite his jilting of Miss Havisham; I think he's just filled the role of Compeyson in Great Expectations - perhaps by doing away with the real character. I wonder whether his unusual mode of speech indicates that he's never been to the Outland; either because he is just a book character or because he's an Outlander who's been trapped in the Bookworld for a very long time. It may be that he's been trapped in underwritten characters and as such has little experience of actual dialogue.

The page 49 obsession is very intriguing. I wonder whether there's anything significant on the pages 49 of all the novels that have been listed - though that does seem like a hugely improbably coincidence (unless Aornis is back again). I've got copies of a few of the novels in question so I'll have a look and see whether anything leaps out.
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Sarah B wrote:

As to the blogs, June's blog is written on the 2nd, about the 7th. So I don't see a problem there.


Exactly. In June's blog, this is the title of her entry. In Amy's blog, it's the date - her entries don't have titles.

And concerning the names -

June Haversham.
June Havisham.
Havisham appearing in June.
June has turned into July. Should we be looking for July Havisham now?

Amy Greenford
Amy Green Fforde?
My Green Ford A???

OK, let's do that a bit more systematically: Anagrams.

Amy Greenford
named forgery
amend forgery
ford genre may
freedom angry
???

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The Man Who Was Thursday Found!

Back from Whitby where I found The Man Who Was Thursday. It was a green hard cover copy located in the classics section.

It contained the same verse as Out and About JC found in Great Expectations and Tristam Shandy:

Some folk took a trip down the river
But now their boat drifts alone
For this eloquent three
Are now working for me
In my glorious Pepysian tome

It also contained another page with the following lines of text, all from The Man Who Was Thursday:

...a white-haired, apple-faced old boy, with sleepy eyes and a grey moustache; stout, sedentary, and very innocent, of a type that may often be found in France, but is still commoner in Catholic Germany...

...sturdy figure...growing smaller and smaller, but still standing and looking after them...

...quite silently, the sunshine in his silver hair. the [sic] last honest stranger...

...dwindling figure, which stood as a mere grey blot touched with a white flame against the great green wall of the step down...

As far as page 49 goes, the book that I found didn't have any page numbers and the rhyme appeared about 2/3 of the way through a rather thick volume; definitely past page 49. I also had a quick look at the 49th page of each of the four previous Thursday Next books (as well as the Nursery Crime books, just for good measure) and there doesn't seem to be anything odd or remarkable there.

Good point about Ffford being much better at poetry than he is at prose...Are there any classic book characters who are poets?

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I agree with the aboves, Ffforde is getting more and more incomprehensible, like the longer he's away from the book the less sane he becomes.

Also, yikes, he's been in Verbal contact with June, and we've been warned about that by Havvy, no?

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