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NEW SPEC: The Nine

**Posted:** Tue Jul 22, 2003 8:58 pm

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Well, Moo

Varin

wow good info. BTW, where's your avatar Myssfitz? It doesn't load for me and I miss that cow.

**Posted:** Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:33 pm

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Myssfitz

**Posted:** Wed Jul 23, 2003 9:48 am

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Well, Moo

Varin

YAY!

**Posted:** Wed Jul 23, 2003 11:35 am

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Valas · Unfettered Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Posts: 326

**Posted:** Wed Jul 23, 2003 12:04 pm

MageSteff

**Posted:** Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:38 pm

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Magesteff
A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. - Margaret Mead

Caterpillar

I'm curious where I can find the reference that was made by ST1 or Tp or possibly Dale that stated "the nine are named after what they are" or "they're called what they are named" or something to that effect. Been searching high and low. I know it's here somewhere...but for the life of me can't find it.

Help?
~cem

**Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:17 am

MageSteff

**Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2003 10:49 am

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Magesteff
A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. - Margaret Mead

Caterpillar

Yeah that's what I was getting at, but I was looking for the reference. Just doin some research. The Ennead wasn't mentioned directly in the reference.

Smile

**Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2003 11:04 am

Geist · Veteran Joined: 04 Mar 2003 Posts: 120 Location: Scotland

**Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2003 11:31 am

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Elijah Snow · Veteran Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 133 Location: Cin Sity

According to TP's reponses to "cite human" it would appear that The Nine wear may masks:

The ennead (Egyptian Mythology)
The nine emperor gods (Chinese mythology)
The nine muses (Greek/Roman mythology) and their mother Mnemosynes

My spec is that The Nine, as we know them, are all of these and more.

There also seems to be a theme of science vs. religion, science vs. magic, etc. This can be seen in the struggle between Avalon and Analog, the principals of Alchemy, the Caduceus (being both a symbol of magic and science).

So...Perhaps The Nine have lost their way, because no one believes in the old gods anymore. As technology, logic, and science have grown to permiate culture, they have slowly lost their identities. They have no more masks to wear...or so they think. What if The Nine were reborn to live in the technological world of today? What if they were given new identities?

Turing Principal might be able to guide them there (she is the modern equivalent of Mnemosyne, the mother of the nine muse). TP seems to be making a journey to transcend her bot-dom to become more human. Sarah has given her the "sacred fire" that allows her to transform and find new pathways. Also, as technology moves to become more human, perhaps the old gods are becoming more human as well as their power wanes.

The only thing that doesn't quite make sense is how does Dale and his wish factor into this whole thing? Is it all part of this grand scheme, or did his actions just have him stumble upon it?

ES

**Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2003 12:01 pm

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Elijah Snow · Veteran Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 133 Location: Cin Sity

Other "Nines" in Mythology

The Nine Planets

The Nine Worlds of Yggdrasil (Norse Mythology)

The Nine Houses of Gaia (Earth based religion)

The Nine Muses (Greek Mythology)

The Navagraha (Indian Mythology)

The Nine Dragons (Chinese Mythology)

Determining The Age of A Pheonix (Greek Mythology)

The Nine Orders of Angels

The Fianna (Celtic Mythology)

Morgan Le Fey and her nine sisters

Merlin's Nine Bardic Companions

It is also interesting to note that the number "3" has many important meanings in magic and myth. In fact three sets of three equals...nine.

**Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2003 1:34 pm

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Valas · Unfettered Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Posts: 326

**Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2003 2:19 pm

MageSteff

3 rows of three

**Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2003 5:22 pm

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Magesteff
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Elijah Snow · Veteran Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 133 Location: Cin Sity

Since it is believed that The Nine each carry a magical stone totem, I've been doing some research to determine what they could be related to...

References to Nine Stones

The Circle of Nine

The Tweleve Riddles

How to Attract Fairies

The Nine Stones on Lucifer's Brestplate

The Nine Stones for The Nine Worlds (Note the symbols on this site)

Images of the Nine Stones of Altarnum (Note the diagram)

More on the Nine Runes

Interesting to note that The World Tree and The Nine Runes of the Nine Worlds are all part of Norse Mythology. Hmmm...

ES

**Posted:** Fri Aug 08, 2003 9:27 am

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