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phantomb
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 		Just because the image is created doesn't mean that it isn't accurate enough to warrant investigation and speculation.

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invisible39
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 		I agree, what I meant to convey was that I thought that because it was created it deserves more attention, because it means it was made exactly like this for a reason.

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Mr. Munchy
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 		I agree completely -- if it is created, then it is obviously very important. I recant my questioning of whether it would benefit us on earth -- you're right, but it would be important for very different reasons than if the image is real.

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Arkane
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 		 It's definitely created.
The Star Image has DEFINTELY been created - it's not a real star image of anything.

If you take the section from the symbol downward, and mirror it, then paste it back, a bit higher, you can see that some of the star patterns have been duplicated and then mirrored when the image was created.

I'm not sure what this means!

Could be a clue to something?

The mirrored pattern doesn't seem to form anything obviously recognisable.



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 		I'd like to point out that the "bacteria/flood" image wasn't the one taken by Lowry. It is probably real, but the true "BC3779-001" taken by lowry of "SEM photo of Streptococcus pyrogens..." is an SEM photo; the other is clearly not if you know anything about microscopy.

Also, Streptococcus pyrogens and pyogenes are two different things. If you want to discuss it there are other threads about that image.

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SameBIG CHIEF
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 		hidden link
http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1
Anyone else see this or try to paste this in a browser? I found it in the star field picture when I opened it with wordpad.

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 		that's the "dublin core metadata initiative", I don't really understand it, but there are also other html's in there. I'm not sure if any of them really make sense, though.

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Foz
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 		Re: It's definitely created.
Arkane wrote:
The Star Image has DEFINTELY been created - it's not a real star image of anything.

If you take the section from the symbol downward, and mirror it, then paste it back, a bit higher, you can see that some of the star patterns have been duplicated and then mirrored when the image was created.

I'm not sure what this means!

Could be a clue to something?

The mirrored pattern doesn't seem to form anything obviously recognisable.



Good point. After reading your post I went back to look at it and there are duplicates everywhere. Is this a clue?

At any rate it should at least prove once and for all that looking for an actual star map to match it would be fruitless. At least in it's present state.

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Mr. Munchy
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 		Good one Arkane -- I agree 100% now that the image is fabricated. I guess I'll stop looking for real star patterns that match that... It would have taken forever anyway!

This is cool because unless the pattern is totally random, it should mean something important, or at least match up with some other pattern later on. And if some PM went to the trouble of building this from scratch, then it probably isn't random.

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 		Wow Dam good eye Arkane.

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Ottogustavo
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 		Found this over on args.bungie.org

http://args.bungie.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=489

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Hi everybody!

I represent the French community and we juste pointed out something HUGE!

Names of those who worked on it: N3okron (a lot!), Dark_Bisounours, skyper, Lynkix and Mjonir (myself). We're from the Halo.fr community.


First, we worked on the first image with viruses, the name of the image is "Slide_Ref070107.jpg", however on the picture it's written "REF#070507". That reminded us the "bug" with the server 1 that is said to be unlocked even if the unlocked one was Server 5.

Then, we noticed "HR 568" we discovered that most of very shiny stars were named HR XXXX, so we seached about HR 568 and HR 168 (transforming 5 into 1).

HR 568 is in the constellation of Perseus and HR 168 in the constellation of Cassiopeia, both of them are quite close together and also close from the constellation of Ursa Minor.


We made the link with the second picture and searched for Cassiopeia and Ursa Minor, since they are easy to find by looking. And we found them! Here is the picture:

Picture of Constelations

Compare to my map:

My map

You can clearly see them, and the angle is perfect!


I had thought before that the solution of this was perhaps the name of the contellation covered by the Chrysopteron, and I realized taht the constellation between Ursa Minor and Cassiopeia was perfectly that. Compare the position of the stars with my map, even the two stars at the bottom-right corner are the same, with the right size. One more thing, the angle between the 3 constellations are perfect, it can't be just a coincidence!


Nevertheless, there is the HUGE discovery... the name of this constellation is "Cepheus". I didn't read the script but, the similarity between this and the name "Cephaus" from it is so huge that it can't just be a coincidence!

Se the picture (names in French):

Look! Cepheus!

Think what you want, but we're prettty sure we really found something. Very Happy


And a couple posts later. . . :

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This may or may not be a coincidence...

iris

Surrounding a star in Cepheus, the Iris (NGC 7023) is one of the brightest reflection nebulae in the far-northern sky. As seen in this image by Tony and Daphne Hallas, the Iris is a rewarding target for binocular and telescope enthusiasts alike. The vibrant nebulosity surrounds a hot, blue 7th-magnitude star whose light illuminates the 6-light-year-wide nebula.


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skuldchan
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 		Ottogustavo:

We've seen what the French guys have had to say about the constellations, but I don't think we've really reached a conclusions. I believe a few other forum members thought the constellation connection was a bit forced, but I can't deny that those three stars on the right look like Orion's Belt.

I've been wondering if the different colored stars clustering around the glyph might represent different collections of constellations, but I haven't had the time to work on this yet.

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Ottogustavo
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 		Thats my fault, I thought today was thursday and those were recent discoveries. Embarassed Been a long week, heh.

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 		Star Image 1 inverted..

....it's easier to see all the stars now and stuff...
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 		100,000 years ago
Has anyone done the night sky 100k years ago and tried to compare that? That may match up better, since I think many stars will shift within that timeframe. Not sure if that will lead anywhere, but in the nightsky in africa , north will definitely be low on the horizon, but I'd think you were on the Mount to get the glyph center (astro north) that high.

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