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Malkara
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Just throwing stuff out there:

B3? Vitamin B-3? AKA Niacin.

And, CNO... Well, a search on Wiki brings up CNO cycle.

As to CNRL... I found this through google.

DR54... I found that the same way.

And, this.

Uh. Yeah. Pretty much just a bunch of random stuff. Any chance that all the side stuff they just ripped from something else? Razz It would go along with the rest of the half-***ed stuff in the game.[/url]

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Sugarfiend
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Relevant data
interpritations of Malkara's web searches

Malkara wrote:
Just throwing stuff out there:

B3? Vitamin B-3? AKA Niacin.

And, CNO... Well, a search on Wiki brings up CNO cycle.

As to CNRL... I found this through google.

DR54... I found that the same way.

And, this.

Uh. Yeah. Pretty much just a bunch of random stuff. Any chance that all the side stuff they just ripped from something else? Razz It would go along with the rest of the half-***ed stuff in the game.[/url]


Actually it doesn't at all look like random crap it all has relevant information, most of it is about bacteria, infections and viruses. The information about corrosion might be useful in either the methods of creating the rings as containment centers to hold the flood and withstand the weathering of their constructed environments.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:44 pm
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JustAHunch
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Names

Just a hunch. B3, as mentioned before, could be the vitamin. Or, I found B3 could stand for the Ephrin B3 antibody. I also found that, from Britannica encyclopedia, Streptococcus pyrogens cause Scarlet fever. And as mentioned in Hushed Casket, BC3779-001 if a protein from B. cereus, which cause food poisoning. And also mentioned there, it can alter DNA.

Also, CnRL should not be Control, I first thought it was a chemical compound. Anyways, thats all I got.

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Bigman2491
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OneAnansi wrote:

Also, could the HR represent hours? Perhaps this is one slide of many that documents activity over time?

My guess at HR is High Risk. This slide does deal with the flood and they could have possibly labeled each slide with the level of risk that the cells have of being infected.

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Jehutus
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Hey, new guy here.

I think perhaps we're looking a tad too closely into the image itself and missing a greater connection?

It's a pathogen. It's a picture specifically of bacteria, but the flood function much more like a virus than a bacterium.

Take, for example, the Carrier form in Halo. Virus hits a cell. Virus commandeers cell. Virus makes copies of itself using cell. Cell bursts, releasing tons of virus into the surrounding system. Now, I'm no biologist, but the public education system taught that much to me

Now take the Mt. Elgon reference. Mt. Elgon, in Kenya, same place as Voi, have rare cave formations, as stated. Now, their origin really isn't unknown, they believe elephants and other fauna carve them by basically licking them for salt over bajillions(scientific term, totally) of years.

One interesting part here is that the caves of Mt. Elgon are seen as the focal point for the outbreaks of a very rare virus known as Marburg. Marburg is the genetic cousin to the infamous Ebola virus, known to kill 90% of its victims and is quite virulent.

Marburg has also been used as a biological weapon, at least developed as such by the soviet union, and the entire ebolavirus family is known to mutate heavy and change, even inside one person's body into a newer, more lethal form. The U.S Army classifies Marburg and Ebola as level 4 biosafety agents, the highest you go on the "Oh $&!T" list.

Another interesting note is that while ebola burns itself out in human populace before the outbreaks can become epidemics (mostly thanks to quarantine however) It cannot survive without a host; yet it survives. The scientific community still does not know what is the animal reservoir, the host that is the carrier for the virus, is.

The family the viruses belong to are Filoviruses, which are RNA viruses, aka in a rather 'old fashioned' sense of evolution. The virus is very old.


I see a lot of connection between the Flood and Viruses to begin with, but I've read Richard Preston's Outbreak and when I saw the Mt. Elgon reference I immediately thought of Ebola, which holds even more similarities to the Flood. Or at least a possible connection. I think the Africa References plus the SlideRef pic point quite a bit to Marburg, or its more lethal sister Ebola.

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Jehuus
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Well now I know why I posted as a guest... Messed up me name on registration. Please delete the above. I'm a big fat tard.

My name is JehuTus, with the T, by the way, if any admin or mod could help me with that...


I think perhaps we're looking a tad too closely into the image itself and missing a greater connection?

It's a pathogen. It's a picture specifically of bacteria, but the flood function much more like a virus than a bacterium.

Take, for example, the Carrier form in Halo. Virus hits a cell. Virus commandeers cell. Virus makes copies of itself using cell. Cell bursts, releasing tons of virus into the surrounding system. Now, I'm no biologist, but the public education system taught that much to me

Now take the Mt. Elgon reference. Mt. Elgon, in Kenya, same place as Voi, have rare cave formations, as stated. Now, their origin really isn't unknown, they believe elephants and other fauna carve them by basically licking them for salt over bajillions(scientific term, totally) of years.

One interesting part here is that the caves of Mt. Elgon are seen as the focal point for the outbreaks of a very rare virus known as Marburg. Marburg is the genetic cousin to the infamous Ebola virus, known to kill 90% of its victims and is quite virulent.

Marburg has also been used as a biological weapon, at least developed as such by the soviet union, and the entire ebolavirus family is known to mutate heavy and change, even inside one person's body into a newer, more lethal form. The U.S Army classifies Marburg and Ebola as level 4 biosafety agents, the highest you go on the "Oh $&!T" list.

Another interesting note is that while ebola burns itself out in human populace before the outbreaks can become epidemics (mostly thanks to quarantine however) It cannot survive without a host; yet it survives. The scientific community still does not know what is the animal reservoir, the host that is the carrier for the virus, is.

The family the viruses belong to are Filoviruses, which are RNA viruses, aka in a rather 'old fashioned' sense of evolution. The virus is very old.


I see a lot of connection between the Flood and Viruses to begin with, but I've read Richard Preston's Outbreak and when I saw the Mt. Elgon reference I immediately thought of Ebola, which holds even more similarities to the Flood. Or at least a possible connection. I think the Africa References plus the SlideRef pic point quite a bit to Marburg, or its more lethal sister Ebola.


Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filovirus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marburg_virus

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LordC
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HAve we tried this?

It looks like there are four numbers on the slide with three digits or less. Could they make up an IP address for us to follow?

Sorry, Ican't do many of the thing I suggest, I've got tins in their terrible twos . . .

And what if we enter in the date/dates into the server 5 login screen?

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jonatj38
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JehuTus,

Love the spec. I see the connection between Marbug and Flood pretty clearly.

I like what you said about the Ebola surviving despite it's hosts being dead and being able to resurface via an animal reservoir.

Most of the clues will flesh out a clearer picture as the ARG progresses and although we are probably looking for a way to activate the next Server, it's possible that we just don't have the info we need yet.

But piecing together the background story from the bread crumbs Bungie leaves for us is half the fun.

Good job!
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srsizzy
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So did they purposefully mark this as that Getty photo because they're clearly WAY different? Are you guys speculating that the Getty image is a clue as to what this is supposed to be or something?

In case any of you didn't know, the picture here is completely different from the original picture.

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mogbert
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Unlikely. What is very likely is that there are a LOT of the 2,000x pictures. Please keep in mind, what we are seeing on the web page is only a sample of the "STONE" catalog. I doubt the guy took only one picture while he had the SEM on. The picture is different from the sample we see, but if we had their entire catalog, then we would find this exact picture without much problem.

Please, gettyimages is not a clue. It is OOG. I have asked that this be put in the Fake Trailhead thread, but it hasn't yet. Am I supposed to post it there?

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eolith
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okay, gotta ask. What is OOG? I've seen the reference a few times.

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glyph wrote:
okay, gotta ask. What is OOG? I've seen the reference a few times.


"OOG" means "Out of Game".

Which reminds me we might want to add a glossary of usual terms to the [url=http://www.unfiction.com/dev/tutorial/]tutorial[/u].
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it's also entirely possible that the metadata was inserted as a distraction.

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glyph wrote:
it's also entirely possible that the metadata was inserted as a distraction.


Personally, I think it's legal considerations.

Also, here's an interesting tidbit. Did you know Bill Gates owns a stock photography company? (Corbis).

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Jehuus wrote:
Well now I know why I posted as a guest... Messed up me name on registration. Please delete the above. I'm a big fat tard.

My name is JehuTus, with the T, by the way, if any admin or mod could help me with that...


I think perhaps we're looking a tad too closely into the image itself and missing a greater connection?

It's a pathogen. It's a picture specifically of bacteria, but the flood function much more like a virus than a bacterium.

Take, for example, the Carrier form in Halo. Virus hits a cell. Virus commandeers cell. Virus makes copies of itself using cell. Cell bursts, releasing tons of virus into the surrounding system. Now, I'm no biologist, but the public education system taught that much to me

Now take the Mt. Elgon reference. Mt. Elgon, in Kenya, same place as Voi, have rare cave formations, as stated. Now, their origin really isn't unknown, they believe elephants and other fauna carve them by basically licking them for salt over bajillions(scientific term, totally) of years.

One interesting part here is that the caves of Mt. Elgon are seen as the focal point for the outbreaks of a very rare virus known as Marburg. Marburg is the genetic cousin to the infamous Ebola virus, known to kill 90% of its victims and is quite virulent.

Marburg has also been used as a biological weapon, at least developed as such by the soviet union, and the entire ebolavirus family is known to mutate heavy and change, even inside one person's body into a newer, more lethal form. The U.S Army classifies Marburg and Ebola as level 4 biosafety agents, the highest you go on the "Oh $&!T" list.

Another interesting note is that while ebola burns itself out in human populace before the outbreaks can become epidemics (mostly thanks to quarantine however) It cannot survive without a host; yet it survives. The scientific community still does not know what is the animal reservoir, the host that is the carrier for the virus, is.

The family the viruses belong to are Filoviruses, which are RNA viruses, aka in a rather 'old fashioned' sense of evolution. The virus is very old.


I see a lot of connection between the Flood and Viruses to begin with, but I've read Richard Preston's Outbreak and when I saw the Mt. Elgon reference I immediately thought of Ebola, which holds even more similarities to the Flood. Or at least a possible connection. I think the Africa References plus the SlideRef pic point quite a bit to Marburg, or its more lethal sister Ebola.


Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filovirus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marburg_virus



Interesting note:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
In the achievements code that was hacked from the beta, two of the levels were "Voi" and "Flood Voi". That pretty much confirms that Mt. Elgon will play a huge role in H3.


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