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[SPEC]Variations of the Glyph
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 		BOOM!. I think Octorok nailed it.

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 		That might well be the case. The question is then, what is in that last server that is so important it is referenced in the Star map?
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 		Another theory - Servers=Locks?
The glyphs denote the combination dial to open the Ark. The first glyph is the random/locked state. the First loop indicates you have opened the first lock, and the center circle turning into a dot means unlocking is in progress. The third glyph indicates we are at the stage of opening the second lock.


If you look at the glyphs in the sequence, you are unlocking layers until you reach the main wormhole gate, then the last little tail on the rotation implies the gate is open, thus that gap in the glyph.

My guess is that the Ark is a Halo+wormhole to a dyson sphere, where the forerunners are in hiding. We unlock the glyph, we unlock the wormhole to let the Forerunners out.

The final solution was to burn down the galaxy, wait for a looooooooong time for the flood to finally die off, then return to a galaxy with no flood. Problem was, it was final in that they had no way to unlock the door (it locks from the outside. And had to wait for a new species of sentients to let them out (thus "Reclaimer"). The assumption will be that the new species that unlocks the "time capsule of forerunner" survives the flood or that the flood is gone, otherwise those beings would be toast and the forerunner need to wait a bit longer.

We're here to attempt to unlock the gates, and I'm thinking we'll see this lock in Halo 3 storyine.


Then we're gonna see the monitors/sentinels are that opposite of life mentioned in the cryptic message.

That's my theory.

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 		LordC I bow to you, tip my hat to you. I was just thinking of that during dinner. Hopefully, this is the plot of Halo3 or i will be disappointed.

Edit: There are some things that worry me-- the great journey the covenant are on (according to 343 Guilty Spark) results in the death of all living creatures within a certain distance of the Halos. From what I can tell this is the real purpose of the ark, so i think MC is supposed to cancel the firing sequence and then we meet the forerunners (Bungie said it was working on a forerunner game, but if i recall correctly they just didn't want to say Halo 3 yet)

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 		I'm not sure if the glyph represents a combination lock, so much as it shows progress in unlocking the Ark.

Either that, or we need to open up server four. Why server four? Because it looks like when the glyph is modified to show server four open, there'll be a path straight into the middle. You know, for the Forerunners to escape through.

And to be honest, I'd really rather all this opening of servers and freeing of Forerunners be part of our plot, and not Halo 3's.
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 		read the wikipedia page for Forerunner (Halo) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forerunner_%28Halo%29

the citations are worthy, and mention the Forerunners attempting to find a shield world, so i think we're at least heading in a good direction

i have a good Q:

how is anything in the Halo universe alive after the "final solution" was fired the first time

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HaloPlayer wrote:

how is anything in the Halo universe alive after the "final solution" was fired the first time


Because things that were outside the blast range came in and repopulated the area once the Forerunners were dead.

I don't think the original ring firing affected Earth in any way. But I'm getting the impression that if they fire again it will also wipe out the life on the Ark (which it seems is Earth).

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 		in Earth probably,

edit: actually i think the Ark is part of a shield world like Onyx (Earth)

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 		ark
biblically - noah's 'ark' was built by the order of god as a means to escape the destruction caused by the flood. keeling true to the biblical reference the ark, halo's ark should be comparable to a shield world, free from destruction and possibly time itself.

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violentvixen wrote:
HaloPlayer wrote:

how is anything in the Halo universe alive after the "final solution" was fired the first time


Because things that were outside the blast range came in and repopulated the area once the Forerunners were dead.

I don't think the original ring firing affected Earth in any way. But I'm getting the impression that if they fire again it will also wipe out the life on the Ark (which it seems is Earth).


Another thing that is often mentioned is that the Halos wipe out all life "capable of supporting the Flood"... Or maybe that was "of sufficient size"... Or was it intelligence?

Either way, the implication is that not all life is capable of feeding the Flood. Possibly whatever we humans evolved from (if we weren't planted or protected in some way from the Forerunners or a system set up by the Forerunners) weren't sufficently large/intelligent/complex/otherwise capable to support the Flood and thus the affect of the Halo firing just passed us over.

Like the final plague. Smile
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 		large in population or stature hmmm

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HitsHerMark wrote:
violentvixen wrote:
HaloPlayer wrote:

how is anything in the Halo universe alive after the "final solution" was fired the first time


Because things that were outside the blast range came in and repopulated the area once the Forerunners were dead.

I don't think the original ring firing affected Earth in any way. But I'm getting the impression that if they fire again it will also wipe out the life on the Ark (which it seems is Earth).


Another thing that is often mentioned is that the Halos wipe out all life "capable of supporting the Flood"... Or maybe that was "of sufficient size"... Or was it intelligence?

Either way, the implication is that not all life is capable of feeding the Flood. Possibly whatever we humans evolved from (if we weren't planted or protected in some way from the Forerunners or a system set up by the Forerunners) weren't sufficently large/intelligent/complex/otherwise capable to support the Flood and thus the affect of the Halo firing just passed us over.

Like the final plague. Smile


It was biomass. But yes, not everything is destroyed.

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 		well the only biofuel for a parasite like the Flood would be its host right?

in the video game, only it seems only Covenant Grunts became carrier Floods, meaning they could not sustain the Flood and only meant to explode and release more Flood

humans and elites have both turned into the utility/combat Flood forms, so if they're not sustainable, then they're at least useful

edit: i wish i had definites for you and actually could help with theory-making

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HaloPlayer wrote:
well the only biofuel for a parasite like the Flood would be its host right?

in the video game, only it seems only Covenant Grunts became carrier Floods, meaning they could not sustain the Flood and only meant to explode and release more Flood

humans and elites have both turned into the utility/combat Flood forms, so if they're not sustainable, then they're at least useful

edit: i wish i had definites for you and actually could help with theory-making

According to The Art of Halo (a book produced in close collaboration with Bungie):

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The Flood appear in three common forms. The Infection Form, which swarms over a victim and consumes its host, replacing the host's biomass with the Flood's super-cell biomass. The host is rapidly transformed into a Combat Form. The host's brain is chemically blocked from all but autonomic systems -- keeping the body alive as it is devoured/converted. Combat Forms that have been damaged to the point where they are no longer combat-effective are converted into Carrier Forms -- mobile incubators for more Infection Forms.


And then the captions say:

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* The Flood Infection Form is the largest entity the Flood can create without directly using other biomasses.

* The Flood have full access to the host's skills and memories as long as the host's brain was still intact when it was taken.

* The Flood Infection utilizes its host organism's nervous system and calcium store to create forms it needs to reproduce and fight.


So basically they require some minimum level of size, intelligence, and calcium to infect a host.

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Octorok wrote:
Some possible server glyphs. I made the ones in red. The others are all from various sources.

*snipped*


I look at it and am reminded of a clock or a stopwatch. Maybe something revolving.

Each quadrant is 2π/5 radians (2π being 360 degrees, separated over five parts). I plugged that into my calculator and it gave me an approximation, which I googled.

Here is what I found:

- If you multiply it by 10^6 it is the permeability constant (Permeability of free space)
- When I threw it into googlemaps, it came up as an area of ocean near Nigeria.

No clue if that means anything, just thinking out loud

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