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[SPEC] Guilty Spark plays a larger role, is the attacker
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Phyltre
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 		 [SPEC] Guilty Spark plays a larger role, is the attacker
Clarifying the Guilty Party
Waiiiit. I think maybe I had a lightbulb moment. I think the entity that commandeered AR might have been 343 Guilty Spark. I think that Guilty Spark has been lying to us, and failed to properly activate his Halo. In support of my idea we have his name, his shady behavior in the Library (it was almost as though he was coordinating Flood attacks at choke points), the possibility that HE might have been the one to keep Flood samples around "for study" (remember that the Forerunner probably had all the time they wanted to study the Flood and came up empty handed...would they really pass that baton to Reclaimers?) Also remember that the Gravemind isn't totally afraid of the Halos being set off, almost as though he knows the system has been compromised--he says "we shall suffer the progress of infinitude" or something similar to one of the Prophets. Clearly the Forerunner wouldn't have set up such a tragic system if they weren't sure it would wipe the Flood out.

This paragraph is tentative, because it relies on the ReSeeding Theory presented elsewhere.
***I think Guilty Spark is the one that favored the Elites and Prophets over humans, putting them on the technology-rich planet intended for us (or swapping us out just after the Forerunner left/died.) I think that he is responsible for the Covenant mysteriously rejecting us rather than asking us to join them; (as they seem to have done with all other races) there is a date gap in the storyline of several months when the Covenant were first encountered that hasn't been properly explained yet.***

And now, he has finally subverted our local Monitor, Adjutant Reflex, setting in motion an unknown plan to get rid of us. (It is not my identity but my intent you should be concerned with.) Remember that AR talked about how guilty his attacker was, specifically mentioning a "spot" of guilt, which is dangerously close to a Guilty Spark. Then the attacker tells us he'll be seeing us at a different place and time, which can only mean he plans to somehow persuade the Covenant to our area, poison their minds against us, then instruct the Covenant to release the Flood on Halo when we arrive--necessitating our totally assured extinction. If this weren't the case, wouldn't Guilty Spark have told us to get to the Ark and activate the system from there? Or even told us the Halos would kill us? He feigned innocence, but he didn't hesitate to tell us how to activate Halo--he just left out all the important details.

Why? Well, it's not inside my theory, but if I had to guess, I would say that upon analysis he has found our behavior too Flood-like and considers us an equal threat. Remember how eager he was to thrust the Index home wipe us out again? Perhaps he saw our rapid advances, even without the benefit of Forerunner technology, and though we were getting out of hand?

Also don't forget that the kinds of characters who could meet all the clues we've been presented only fit into a very small sub-subset. They must have been alive for thousands of years, must be an AI, must be guilty of something, must be somehow malevolent towards humans, must be concerned with protocol, must be within the same hierarchy that AR was in...getting narrow enough of a definition for you?



Well, that's the theory thus far. I will appreciate any criticism, disagreements, or endorsements you might forward.


edit: Please, -please- name your threads with detail about its contents, not vague titles -thebruce

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 		Sounds like a great theory to me. Of course I haven't really followed Iris, so i'm sure one who has will post here, so don't get your hopes up yet.

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 		Guilty Spark did fail to activate Installation 4, and was present when Installation 5 was activated and canceled, it also seems to be aware of the location of the activation Ark (hinted at being on/in Earth)

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 		I am terrible about finishing games, so I haven't witnessed much of what you're describing. However, I have heard it described quite a lot and from multiple sources and from what I know, that sounds pretty good.

343 Guilty Spark always struck me as... Yeah, I guess shady is the best way to put it.
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 		When John-117 speaks with him in the year 2552, 343 Guilty Spark notes that he has maintained Installation 04 for "101,217 local years."

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 		Would be sad if 343 was just getting a little revenge for Master Chief flushing 101,217 years down the drain?

343 is a very odd character-- its name strikes me as odd
and more importantly not much has been said about any sort of hierarchy for the halo monitors and forerunner technology, all we know is something is getting "outranked"

and just a side not-- i love this forum, and i search forever to find one i liked and you are a great bunch to work with

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 		the only problem with that theory is that Guily Spark not triggering the Halo "has not happened yet." That event happens 500 years from now. We can't assume that a character from the games and/or novels is behind this quite frankly, because none of that has happened yet.

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HaloPlayer wrote:
Would be sad if 343 was just getting a little revenge for Master Chief flushing 101,217 years down the drain?


I think you missed my point. If 343 was being truthful - and we have no indication that he was not - then there is no way he could be on Earth in the present day. He's busy humming away on Installation 04 as we speak. Has been for over 100,000 years.

He has an alibi.

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 		so are we laying this theory to rest then?

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Urk wrote:
there is no way he could be on Earth in the present day. He's busy humming away on Installation 04 as we speak. Has been for over 100,000 years.

He has an alibi.


AR spoke using plural pronouns, saying "us" several times before and during the attack. And we know the Halos employ a superluminary network. So what's to keep the Monitors from using it?

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 		I assume his main function would tie him to his designated Installation. That is, monitoring.

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 		I'd like to hear your reasoning.

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Urk wrote:
I assume his main function would tie him to his designated Installation. That is, monitoring.

Yes, but if the theory's correct, then he's not as faithful to his monitoring duties as he seems.
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Phyltre wrote:
I'd like to hear your reasoning.


I've laid them out. I believe he hasn't left the Installation because he himself reports as much.

Anything is possible, but I will be surprised if 343 makes an appearance on present day Earth, though, hell, maybe I shouldn't be.

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 		So this would be 343 Guilty Spark prior to the Halo games? Or some kind of time vortex he is using to communicate. I say this because, until the Pillar of Autumn crashed on installation 04 Guilty Spark did not know of the human race specifically. He only knew them as reclaimers. This would suggest that he wouldn't know where to even start looking to communicate with earth pre-halo 1.

May I note that the entity that purged AdjudantReflex does sound very monitor-ish.
Speaking of protocol and all. The monitors will do anything to complete their intended duties.
This new entity could be the monitor for the Ark.

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