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[SPEC] Chronology Speculation (Halo firing/Comic)
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Jordan117
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gs37 wrote:
Ok, fixed it. I'm really sorry. As you can see, I'm new around here, and just wanted to help. Sad

I'm not too worried about it. I doubt Staten would allow a script containing critical story info to get out to anyone even remotely capable of leaking, so the info you cited is likely either defunct (like the Cortana letters) or irrelevant, like a scrapped plot point.

At least, I hope so. Confused

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 		Shadowkiller, you thought that the forerunner wanted to protect humanity. That's actually the first I've ever heard that idea, why do you think they chose do that? Just wondering..

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 		That's also assuming that inside info is legit. I mean, sure, it may be, but I would need more hands to try to count the number of people on internet forums who i have seen claim to have inside info on some movie script or unreleased game...

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 		Are we then assuming that the Halo Array has only been fired the one time? Couldn't the Halos and the Ark have been built hundreds of thousands if not millions of years ago and the last firing or "Event" (as AR put it) was 100,000 years ago.

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Are we then assuming that the Halo Array has only been fired the one time? Couldn't the Halos and the Ark have been built hundreds of thousands if not millions of years ago and the last firing or "Event" (as AR put it) was 100,000 years ago.

According to 343GS:

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This installation has a successful utilization record of 1.2 trillion simulated and one actual. It is ready to fire on demand.


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 		Of course the Ark/Halo Array are for the protection of sentient life.

The firing of the Halo Array kills the Floods food (sentient life) but without doing so the future of said life would be destroyed.

The Ark and the following reseeding (probably many years after the Flood has starved itself) is evidence of this.

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This installation has a successful utilization record of 1.2 trillion simulated and one actual. It is ready to fire on demand.


Funny how you sometimes realize that you already knew something after someone else tells it to you.

I forgot that. Thanks.

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Funny how you sometimes realize that you already knew something after someone else tells it to you.

I forgot that. Thanks.

Quite easy when the cutscenes alone amount to a feature-length movie...

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Shadowkiller, you thought that the forerunner wanted to protect humanity. That's actually the first I've ever heard that idea, why do you think they chose do that? Just wondering..


My theory (that I'll write up later) is that humans were the moral guides for the Forerunner. The Forerunner were obviously amoral aliens with a God complex, who possibly created the Flood themselves through their constant thirst for knowledge. I believe they left the firing of the Halo rings up to the humans or "reclaimers" to ensure that they could only be used at the morally correct time (AKA to keep people like the Prophets from firing them).

343 Guilty Spark (to MC): "Last time, you asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? Having considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed."

Joe Staten: Inscrutable alien beings with problematic ethics never die... they just fade away. But if what you're asking is: when did the Forerunner take their "Great Journey," that would be about 100,000 years ago - around the time our Homo Sapien ancestors decided to migrate out of Africa. Mind you, that's a hotly debated paleontological theory.

Gravemind: "I? I am a monument to all your sins."

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Why would the Ark have been constructed so far ahead of time? I thought (though, not entirely sure) that the forerunner's awareness of the flood wasn't that long.


In the server 05 flash video and the log transcript:

"KNOW THAT A THOUSAND OTHER PLANS WERE TRIED AND FAILED"

The Forerunner had an entire Galaxy to hide (if we came up with the Cole Protocol, they probably had something better), so I'm sure it took a long time to get to the point of using the "weapon of last resort".[/i]

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 		What if the ark was used to protect the earth, so humans could evolve (with a push in the right direction from the ancients) and certain programmes were left to monitor their progress. If all bacteria were safe from the effects of the halo, then over 100,000 years they'd evolve possibly leading to a defense against the flood. It would be like a self sufficient lab really. Which would make a sensible back up plan if you couldn't be 100% certain the flood would be destroyed by the halos.

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 		How about some evidence supplied by our deposed friend, Adjutant Reflex?

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Q: State todays date please.

A: Adjusted for relativistic effects, from the first array event, date has no local relevance.

Q: State todays date please.

A: Sufficient contextual data acquired. 871803909 ± 384 hours since event. Compiling local archives/resources. [Hibernating] until next incident.


That's 100,000 years, give or take about 500 (2552-2007).

There is no question that the first, last, and only Halo firing occurred 100,000 years ago. There is plenty of evidence to support the notion and none given to indicate otherwise.

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Jordan117 wrote:
gs37 wrote:
A certain script I have. Embarassed It was written by this fella

and whether it's the real deal or not, there must be some truth in it.

If it is real, then it's not exactly polite to go around blabbing said information to people who are interested in not having the game spoiled for them...

Be advised that a "leaked" script with Joe Staten's name on it made the rounds last year... and it was a fake. I think we're talking about the same script here; if so, I wouldn't count on the content when making predictions or deductions in Iris.

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How about some evidence supplied by our deposed friend, Adjutant Reflex?

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Q: State todays date please.

A: Adjusted for relativistic effects, from the first array event, date has no local relevance.

Q: State todays date please.

A: Sufficient contextual data acquired. 871803909 ± 384 hours since event. Compiling local archives/resources. [Hibernating] until next incident.


That's 100,000 years, give or take about 500 (2552-2007).

There is no question that the first, last, and only Halo firing occurred 100,000 years ago. There is plenty of evidence to support the notion and none given to indicate otherwise.

Ooh, nice work. That works out perfectly. According to Google:

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871,803,909 hours = 99,455 years

(So the Halos were fired 99,455 years before 2007.)

100,000 years - 99,455 years = 545 years

(That's a 545 year discrepancy. So...)

2007 + 545 = 2552

(Bingo!)


Anybody else find it odd that the Halos were fired *exactly* 100,000 years before the events of the games?

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Jordan117 wrote:
According to Google:

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871,803,909 hours = 99,455 years

(So the Halos were fired 99,455 years before 2007.)

100,000 years - 99,455 years = 545 years

(That's a 545 year discrepancy. So...)

2007 + 545 = 2552

(Bingo!)


According to Google? That's my math! Laughing

Where did you find it?

And no, not exactly 100,000 years in the past, but close enough for UNSC work.

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Urk wrote:
Jordan117 wrote:
According to Google:

Quote:
871,803,909 hours = 99,455 years

(So the Halos were fired 99,455 years before 2007.)

100,000 years - 99,455 years = 545 years

(That's a 545 year discrepancy. So...)

2007 + 545 = 2552

(Bingo!)


According to Google? That's my math! Laughing

Where did you find it?

And no, not exactly 100,000 years in the past, but close enough for UNSC work.

Heh... Google's index doesn't work *that* quickly. I just used the conversion/calculation function that's built into it. You'd said it'd been 100K years "give or take 500", so I wanted to nail down the exact timing of it using AR's information.

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