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[SPEC] Rush's Forerunner/Iris Manifesto + New Video
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KIRBYTIME
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I dunno if this is important rush. But since you've been making some references to the bible in this case I would like to share this:

John the Baptist was also nicknamed as 'John the Forerunner' namely because he was considered to be the forerunner of Christ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist

Just my 2cents if you think so...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:44 am
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rush
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violentvixen wrote:
Cool stuff, very nice summary and analysis.

At the end of Halo 2, Cortana states that she feels a resistance in the computer systems of High Charity.

I don't remember this at all from the game. When does she say this?



Download: http://www.boyhowdypro.com/files/ARhc.wmv

YouTube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Av67SOKq5Kk

It took me a while to acquire the will to go back through that level, but I found the solid piece of evidence I was looking for. Since this ARG is about the Forerunner, and the "construct" comes from the Forerunner ship, then I believe that the construct is, in fact, Adjutant Reflex.

Possibilities: it's

A) Fighting against Truth's launch sequence in order to buy time for the Master Chief.

B) Trying to fight back Cortana's attempts to delay the launch sequence and, therefor, keep the MC from going to Earth and doing something... drastic.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:12 pm
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AshofPompei
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rush wrote:
violentvixen wrote:
Cool stuff, very nice summary and analysis.

At the end of Halo 2, Cortana states that she feels a resistance in the computer systems of High Charity.

I don't remember this at all from the game. When does she say this?



Download: http://www.boyhowdypro.com/files/ARhc.wmv

YouTube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Av67SOKq5Kk

It took me a while to acquire the will to go back through that level, but I found the solid piece of evidence I was looking for. Since this ARG is about the Forerunner, and the "construct" comes from the Forerunner ship, then I believe that the construct is, in fact, Adjutant Reflex.

Possibilities: it's

A) Fighting against Truth's launch sequence in order to buy time for the Master Chief.

B) Trying to fight back Cortana's attempts to delay the launch sequence and, therefor, keep the MC from going to Earth and doing something... drastic.


Both sound good. I could see the construct aiding the master chief( or assisting a reclaimer) but I could also see the construct fighting the MC (due to maybe the construct knows of the MC intentions and as we know, most forerunner construct are all about protocol)

One thing bugs me tho. I don't think we have determined the timeline for this ARG. If this ARG is in the current time then I don't see this construct traveling back through time to warn us.

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shadeedge
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I think I disagree on your opinions of the Forerunners. Look at their naming system - Guilty Spark, Penitent Tangent. The video from Server 05. They're sorry they had to do this, to wipe out all life in the galaxy. D-com doesn't feel remorse - but that it questions whether it should feel it or not seems to suggest it does have morals. It recognises that this is a situation where it should feel bad; it doesn't, true, and humans could merely have taught it what is "bad", but I think it does feel some sense of wrongness. It does recognise that it's a pyhrric situation.

OTOH, the nature of the librarians does go towards your view. They might be named to suggest unhappiness with their job, but they approach their job with apparent relish. They don't themselves seem to care pressing the GRB. It could just be that that's a function of the fact they're AIs, but possibly they reflect the views of the Forerunners.

I think this answers the question of, if the Forerunners could hide humans, why didn't they just come out after the activation? Why didn't they hide also? I think perhaps they stayed out to be destroyed deliberately, in order to pay for their crimes of creating the Flood and then failing in every method except the Halo approach.

My own theory is that AR is on the Ark. Not as an overall AI in charge, but as a open-the-doors, say hello type of thing. Going from the name, it's the reflexive subordinate, the Forerunner equvalent of a pre-recorded menu when you phone a company. But the subordinate of who? Of the entity that's replaced it, I would guess, who possibly is the AI in charge of the Ark. Just as the pre-recorded message directs you to the person you need (well, in an ideal world), AR's replacement has taken over the conversation.

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AshofPompei wrote:
rush wrote:
violentvixen wrote:
Cool stuff, very nice summary and analysis.

At the end of Halo 2, Cortana states that she feels a resistance in the computer systems of High Charity.

I don't remember this at all from the game. When does she say this?



Download: http://www.boyhowdypro.com/files/ARhc.wmv

YouTube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Av67SOKq5Kk

It took me a while to acquire the will to go back through that level, but I found the solid piece of evidence I was looking for. Since this ARG is about the Forerunner, and the "construct" comes from the Forerunner ship, then I believe that the construct is, in fact, Adjutant Reflex.

Possibilities: it's

A) Fighting against Truth's launch sequence in order to buy time for the Master Chief.

B) Trying to fight back Cortana's attempts to delay the launch sequence and, therefor, keep the MC from going to Earth and doing something... drastic.


Both sound good. I could see the construct aiding the master chief( or assisting a reclaimer) but I could also see the construct fighting the MC (due to maybe the construct knows of the MC intentions and as we know, most forerunner construct are all about protocol)

One thing bugs me tho. I don't think we have determined the timeline for this ARG. If this ARG is in the current time then I don't see this construct traveling back through time to warn us.


wikibruce wrote:
Halo Activation Time

* Urk, on the unfiction boards, figured the following out from the forum post by AdjutantReflex that read
"871803909 ± 384 hours since event"

Here is how it breaks down:

* Hours in a year, according to Google = 8,765.81277
* Hours passed since activation as cited by AdjutantReflex = 871,803,909+-384
* 871,803,909 / 8,765.81277 = 99454.999995396890047880865244627
* Rounded, that's roughly 99455 years since activation.
* 100,000 - 99455 = 545
* We're in year 2007. The events in the Halo story arc take place in the year 2552.
* 2552 - 2007 = 545

AR's time reference equates nearly exactly to 100,000 years before the year 2552

* For clarification on how the number 100,000 came up, FauxHammer said

"Whatever happened 99,520 years ago, happened about 100,000 years ago if the local year is 2552. There are a few hints in the Halo 2 campaign that the last activation of the halo installations (the array perhaps?) was about 100,000 years ago." However, according to Wikipedia humans originated 200,000 years ago as of the present date. Thus, if the rings were activated according to the above information it would mean humans and the world would had to have gone through a massive extinction mid-way through human existance (any Ark theories notwithstanding).



btw, I was looking for the post AR made about the number of hours since the last ring activation, and I found that no one has a complete set of AR's posts... is there anyone who has a .doc with all of the posts? Is it buried somewhere in the wiki?
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All AR's posts are catalogued on the wiki in the Outline page (and archived weeks), but there isn't a specific page lsiting only all his posts. I saw someone make a list on the bungie.net forums somewhere, but it's not all that necessary IMO. But yes, all his posts are on the wiki
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Ah, I see now. I didn't that was all of them.
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going back to the Human/Flood thing, that was kind of my point. The flood was an unknown entity to the covenant. Something they had no-idea that existed, but they did know that there was something in the universe that was vermin. The covenant have mis-read things before so perhaps when they learned about the vermin they immediately assumed it was the first thing they found. Humans. Now that they have stumbled across the Halo's and the flood inside they are thinking "we have had no warnings of this"

My theory is that they did get the warnings, but blindly assumed the warning was talking about something else. Humans instead of flood.
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