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OneAnansi
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 		[SPEC] AR/Zune theories
Lord help me, I'm starting a new topic, hopefully I won't piss off too many vets....


Well... I wasn't sure where to post this, and I notice people with a misc. theory post it in a new topic. Anyways...


THEORY 1/ AR

I believe, 100%, that this new AR is a totally different being from the original AR. A few people have theorized him being the same... or from a different time etc. The obvious response that everyone has been using to disprove the theories is AR's comment,

"This entity has been terminated, its matrix commandeered."


Sure this works, but I think there's more... before AR was taken over.. he commented on the one who was going to overtake him,(these are not in order and are taken from the various messages)


"An older life is here with us"


"He plays with time even as he hides in its folds"


"He outranks me"


"He has had millennia for reflection"


"The stain on his hands will not wash.
That damned spot as old as rock and time.
What has he learned in Eon's slumber? "

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Now look at the new AR's comments;


"This entity has been terminated, its matrix commandeered."

Dictionary.com's Commandeer:
To force into military service.
To seize for military use; confiscate.
To take arbitrarily or by force.

Plus, AR originally said that the new entity outranked it




"I am for another place and another time. On my terms. "

AR originally said the new entity 'plays with time'





"I do not require charity or alms
But I did choose poverty
And other darkness too
Will you wait for me? "

AR originally said the new entity had stains on his hands(ie:other darkness), and had eon's slumber(perhaps refering to poverty?)

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So, not only is there no doubt that this is not the original AR, we can see this is the exact entity AR warned us of, which also means:

1)This new AR has some sort of important rank...most likely military
2)This new AR is an AI ("A better machine")
3)This new AR has been around much longer than everything around him, and has the ability to manipulate time.
4)This new AR was 'evil', 'bad' etc. The original AR asked rhetorically what had he learned. ("I doubt it's mercy or sorrow") To learn means he wasn't in the first place...



Theory 2/ The Zune

Everyone is talking about the code that was left by the new AR and it's similarities to something on the Zune. However most people have seemed to dismiss the concept pretty early. I don't know much but I think this could hold more truth than everyone thinks.

06/18/2007, AR states,

"I will seek one of you out and leave my legacy in a small space."

Most people assume that he is refering to the private messages he later sends to x Foman123 x, but what if he ment something he left on the Zune? Wouldn't that explain the new AR hunting it down?


"ROGUE PROCESS" could refer to the hidden information?

"POS/NAV" could refer to him trying to locate the position of it.

"CONFIRM SECURE QUARANTINE" could refer to once he confirms locating it and securing it, he has to quarentine the information?

The rest of the information could help find that one special zune? Perhaps the warthog vid help us find it?



UPDATE TO ZUNE THEORY
Some input from Phoenixka;

Phoenixka wrote:
OneAnansi wrote:
Sooo...


AR

|n|n|nROGUE PROCESS ghost.713>
X.XX.713> POS/NAV < @ > <53LPH54><1>
X X5 > CONFIRM SECURE QUARANTINE - > qghost.713

Zune

108
(X.X1) H03
X.XX.713>\locl\silent
X.X1(WARNING) rogue.

X.X5>CONFIRM SECURE QUARANTINE


Well I guess I'll do the best I can making sense of what these lines might mean overall. I'm a computer engineering student, but this doesn't look much like anything I've ever seen.

Quote:
|n|n|nROGUE PROCESS ghost.713>


I don't know what the |n| gibberish at the beginning is, but the rest is pretty self explanatory.

There is a Rogue Process named ghost.

In most files a name a period is followed by the file type. So either 713 is a file type or my only other guess would be a port number of some kind. This would mean the ghost is acting on port 713.

Onto the number itself. 713. People should probably start doing some 7 logic on it. What I mean by seven logic is doing anything you can to it mathematically to find 7's.

Quote:
X.XX.713> POS/NAV < @ > <53LPH54><1>


As to the first part my guess is that the X's are parts of an ip address we don't have the clearance to see. This line solidifies my guess that 713 is a port, due to the fact that X.XX isn't a very logical file name.

This line overall could tell us what is happening on port 713. There could also be X's there because we don't care about the root of the port or it is assumed to be known.

The POS/NAV has me a little confused. Nav should be navigation/navigating, but POS could be positive or something else. For now I'll assume it's a Positive Navigation.

The <@> is probably a pointer telling us where this navigation is happening.

The <53LPH54><1> is more ambiguous. It could be a memory location, but the highest I've seen memeory locations labeled is in Hex which only goes up to F. It could be a location or a specific server or program. The <1> could be the primary server on a location, or it could be the memory location in a server, or the number of times ghost is active in this location.

Quote:
X X5 > CONFIRM SECURE QUARANTINE - > qghost.713


This line is also pretty simple. The area seen in the second line has been quarantined and qghost.713 could be like our vaccinations which are developed off of old germ samples. The computer could have created a modified ghost to get rid of the original.

It could also mean the qghost is quarantined within port 713.

I'm not sure what the X X5 would stand for.

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Now for the Zune block.

Quote:
108
(X.X1) H03
X.XX.713>\locl\silent
X.X1(WARNING) rogue.

X.X5>CONFIRM SECURE QUARANTINE


I'll go through this one a bit quicker.

I dont really know what the 108 represents. It could be a port or the computer in use. We should probably run some 7 logic on it also.

(X.X1) H03. This could mean that Halo 3 is possibly running on the system.

X.XX.713>\locl\silent
port .713 has been accessed and the access point is local and silent.

X.X1(WARNING) rogue.
Rogue process detected

X.X5>CONFIRM SECURE QUARANTINE
The rogue has been Quarantined once again on the X.X5 port.

X.X5 maybe the location of this systems anti-virus or it may be the port through which it acts.
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 		I'm pretty sure they wouldn't go as far as putting a special message on 1 Zune that could very well be still on a shelf somewhere.

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 		What about the possibility of it being on certain Zunes shipped to a specific region? Maybe, only the Zunes in the Northwest have this clue packed in with their Zune.

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 		Brilliant! Now I have an excuse to go buy a zune!
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 		I am hoping that if the zune theory is correct that they would have a special zune set aside to make available for this or another promotion. Perhaps as a special reward to some lucky person whom helped unlock the first server? but then again it places the continuation of the "game" in jepordy if that one zune is not found.
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RaveGamer wrote:
I'm pretty sure they wouldn't go as far as putting a special message on 1 Zune that could very well be still on a shelf somewhere.
Obviously it isn't logical, but it's Microsoft... I can totally see them doing it. Another way to sell things faster...

Plus, who says there's really just one? Could be five, who knows... but this would be the ultimate way to advertise....

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 		Exactly. If there's a hidden message in the Zunes, I can't imagine it not being in a large number of them. There's no guarantee that everyone who buys a Zune knows about Iris, so they'd have to put information on a decent number. Given this line of thinking, I find it highly unlikely that there would be any info hidden on the Zunes, cause someone would have found it by now.

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SGMX wrote:
Exactly. If there's a hidden message in the Zunes, I can't imagine it not being in a large number of them. There's no guarantee that everyone who buys a Zune knows about Iris, so they'd have to put information on a decent number. Given this line of thinking, I find it highly unlikely that there would be any info hidden on the Zunes, cause someone would have found it by now.
Weeeell, not exactly, this info's most likely hidden... it would just BE there would it?

Also, a note, many other ARG's have had crucial information depend on a slim chance of it getting to someone..

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 		^...Oops, sorry, I ment wouldn't

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^...Oops, sorry, I ment wouldn't


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 		Listen. The stuff on the Zune isn't in the Zune rather onthe zune.



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KLind wrote:
Listen. The stuff on the Zune isn't in the Zune rather onthe zune.



Whiiich would make finding the right zune all the easier...

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OneAnansi wrote:
KLind wrote:
Listen. The stuff on the Zune isn't in the Zune rather onthe zune.



Whiiich would make finding the right zune all the easier...


But that stuff is done on assembly line. It's reealy doubtful that one would be special on the outside.

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 		Special Halo 3 Zune data
If I was the PM's and I wanted to put "special" data on a few Zunes, I would give them away....

The reason being that since the winners are HBO regulars, they will know about the ARG.. and thus they would "hopefully" share the new data with the other players.
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 		While I think it's certainly possible that the writing on the Zune is related to the game, I think it's highly unlikey it's on a limited number of them.

I suspect the writing is all there is to it. Maybe it's just another sample of this type of code to help us interpret it.
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