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Shlonster
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:33 pm
Last edited by Shlonster on Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:26 pm; edited 3 times in total
IMightBeRusty
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Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 119
Shlonster wrote:
Looking at the actual text of this most recent post....
Line by line analysis.
I do not require charity or alms
* I don't need your help
But I did choose poverty
* But I am lacking what I need (by choice)
And other darkness too
* ...? What other darkness?
Will you wait for me?
* Why would he need us to wait for him? What are we doing/what is going on that he can't keep up with?
The post seems contradictory -- it says it doesn't need anything from us, but it is asking for our help (asking us to wait). Anybody have any ideas for what's going on?
He chose misfortune, but maybe something significant will happen if we wait. I dunno.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:34 pm
Dyne
Boot
Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 25 Location: San Antonio, Texas
IMightBeRusty wrote:
Shlonster wrote:
Looking at the actual text of this most recent post....
Line by line analysis.
I do not require charity or alms
* I don't need your help
But I did choose poverty
* But I am lacking what I need (by choice)
And other darkness too
* ...? What other darkness?
Will you wait for me?
* Why would he need us to wait for him? What are we doing/what is going on that he can't keep up with?
The post seems contradictory -- it says it doesn't need anything from us, but it is asking for our help (asking us to wait). Anybody have any ideas for what's going on?
He chose misfortune, but maybe something significant will happen if we wait. I dunno.
We've got a couple possible dates on the horizon - 7/1/07, 7/5/07 (Both from SlideRef); 7/7/07 (It's Bungie. ); And now 7/13/07... The only question is... What are we waiting for?
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:38 pm
Nola
Unfettered
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 675
I knew it! Ghost713 has been in on it all along!
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:38 pm
sarge2552
Boot
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 19
just a note on the AR messages--
the capital U in universe and the capital M in matrix
possible significance?
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:47 pm
Nightmare Tony
Entrenched
Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 824 Location: Meadowbrook
Give alms to the blind beggar? Reminds me of a quote but cannot find it.
Could this be a beggar who blinded himself, chose blindness? Saul, perhaps?
Who is it that waits in the bible?
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:49 pm
Schmeck
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Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 27 Location: St. Louis, MO
Shlonster wrote:
Looking at the actual text of this most recent post....
edit: Also, the 2nd AR post in the newest thread says, " ... This is a convenient Matrix. For now." Dictionary.com defines Matrix as...
1. something that constitutes the place or point from which something else originates, takes form, or develops: The Greco-Roman world was the matrix for Western civilization.
It seems that AR is a good starting point for this AI, but it will be moving on (perhaps to a different website...hopefully.) Anyways if this has already been addressed trout away.
I'm thinking this is probably the more appropriate definition of Matrix, given the context:
Quote:
Mathematics . a rectangular array of numbers, algebraic symbols, or mathematical functions, esp. when such arrays are added and multiplied according to certain rules.
A matrix can be like an array of data, or a network of connected nodes. Possibly more likely, since "Array" has already been used on a few different occasions by AR.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:04 pm
camshaft
Boot
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 66
In the Halo universe "Matrix" is generally used to refer to whatever physical device/network houses an AI. The term is used very loosely. An AI can reside on a network of computers, for example, which would be considered a matrix. AI's can also reside in a tiny crystalline cube which contains their "matrix."
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:10 pm
rose
...and then Magic happens
Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Posts: 4117
So if the first post is still valid..
Wouldn't the first post from today (a pulse) be AR finding something that has a pulse. Finding life and then examining it?
Wouldn't the second post from today (veins of ice and poison) be a report of what was found? Maybe from whatever was found. Maybe it took over what AR was? Or anyway, the thing that was found is "talking" to AR - not to us directly - asking AR for help or AR to wait.
Is there any reason why this thing is posting on the bungie forums? Any in-game reason given?
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Mankind was my business, the common good was my business.~ Dickens
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:25 pm
PONGpaddle
Boot
Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 21
Shlonster wrote:
1. something that constitutes the place or point from which something else originates, takes form, or develops: The Greco-Roman world was the matrix for Western civilization.
Since we're dealing with AIs, I would've assumed that the CS definition of a matrix is more appropriate: a two dimensional array. Conceptually, a matrix appears as a grid, i.e.:
[[1,2,3],
[4,5,6],
[7,8,9]]
With this in mind, I would have thought AR's matrix to be a computer system, or a part of it. Perhaps a matrix of processors?
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:40 pm
Chrono2x
Boot
Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 14
To me that line looks like it is saying that the <53LPH54> set of numbers is the position of "X.XX.713" (maybe ghost.713 or the ghost of the original AR).
I know that it could be an IP address has already been mentioned. Is there any way it could be a GPS location?
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:05 pm
skybruin
Unfettered
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 373 Location: Missoula ,MT
this may be trout but in that 3d quicktime video of the worthog, besides seeing the flashs of occasional text that make up the hidden message, there were three green wire frame still shots of the worthog as well, Was that in the movies back then as well?
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:35 pm
KLind
Entrenched
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 928 Location: Columbus, Ohio
Did anyone notice what it says on the back of the Halo 3 Zune?
108
(X.X1) H03
X.XX.713>\locl\silent
X.X1(WARNING) rogue.
X.X5>CONFIRM SECURE QUARANTINE
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:47 pm
skybruin
Unfettered
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 373 Location: Missoula ,MT
also could the numbers represented in the pos nav section be cells within and array?
And as to the poem some have alluded to a poor blind man, could they be referring to the bible's Mark 10:46-52? I researched this and found the following link on google,
http://www.abideinchrist.com/spurgeon/spurgeon-blindbeggar.html
it refers to the blind man Bartimeus who waited for Jesus outside of jericho.
Could this message be a cry for help from AR asking us to save him?
_________________Mongo not know, Mongo only pawn in game of life
XboxliveGamertag: SkyBruin
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:49 pm
skybruin
Unfettered
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 373 Location: Missoula ,MT
wait if those number formats are for a halo3 zune, then perhaps they refer to a specific halo 3 zune.
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XboxliveGamertag: SkyBruin
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:50 pm
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