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Wabonan · Entrenched Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1185

not really ... there is the big hunking trailhead thread.... we do have some good info on the FET forums... we kinda started a summery thread then we got off on a tangent as usual and didn't finish it
lol me antagonize?.....lol never

**Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:10 am

omega_ghost

Has anyone come up with any ideas on how CM's resume fits into all this,I have been thinking about all the things that have happened and I get stuck trying to piece that part together without coming up with some scheme that is completely ridiculous (well maybe not ridiculous but more complex).

**Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:40 am

NovaChild

Personally I just think Michael might be realizing that just bitching at the CM is getting him nowhere, so maybe just reasoning with him and using the fact that he's religious could do some good.

**Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:29 am

Windmill Hill · Boot Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 69 Location: Bellevue, WA

**Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:21 pm

omega_ghost

ok heres a theory...

If CM and Sue were together (married,engaged,dating) and Eric got in the middle of that and thats the reason he was kidnapped then CM might have some sort of abandonment issue, possibly he was adopted, was an unplanned or unwanted child, or maybe childhood abuse which might cause a psychological problem in him.

**Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:31 pm

jabroni

There are a lot of things we don't know. From the video, it seems to imply Sue has been killed. He shows the bloody white nightgown numerous times (which is most likely the same one she is wearing on Valentines day). Also he keeps showing the buried hand which seems to be her.

But if this is true, is the CM trying to show she was killed that night? Was she killed just before they were about to have sex? Or maybe during... or if he was smart, after?

This idea confuses me. Why would she be killed in February, then the CM waits 8 months to kidnap Eric? Also in Feb of 06, Eric and Sue wouldn't have had much time to have an affair yet. And why would Eric still be calling Sue 8 months later saying where are you? Don't you think he would have realized something happened to her by then?

Why such a huge time gap? Maybe...

1) Sue was killed in that night gown, but not on Feb 14th. The CM either dressed her in it as a memory of when he still loved her, or she just happened to be wearing it again.

2) The dates are not accurate and actually some kind of code.

3) Sue isn't actually dead the CM is just symbolizing it??
Just some ideas... Confused

**Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:45 pm

omega_ghost

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This idea confuses me. Why would she be killed in February, then the CM waits 8 months to kidnap Eric? Also in Feb of 06, Eric and Sue wouldn't have had much time to have an affair yet. And why would Eric still be calling Sue 8 months later saying where are you? Don't you think he would have realized something happened to her by then?

Why such a huge time gap? Maybe...

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3) Sue isn't actually dead the CM is just symbolizing it??
Just some ideas... Confused

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If you go with the third theory you have here and the buried hand is symbolizing the death of Sue to the CM and not actually dead then Eric call ing her would be normal for him seeing as he seems to be a stalker type from some of the things he said in the video.

Hmm didnt seem to put what i quoted in a little box thing.

**Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:45 pm

blessedmercy1018 · Veteran Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 146

Sorry guys I am here I have just been going over the vid again and again. I like Jabroni's idea about the dates being a code, it makes sense. I am also thinking that Cm is showing us why he kidnapped Eric. But that opens a whole new set of questions. Confused

**Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:45 pm

StarkRavingMad · Decorated Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 250

I really doubt she was killed on Valentine's or anywhere near that. When we see the dead girl's hand in "Stalking" it is date-stamped 9/5/06. Assuming that is Sue, if she was buried that shallow for almost 7 months, you'd be seeing some serious decomposition. She must have been killed sometime near the 9/5/06 date which places it about a month before he caught Eric.

My guess is that he's using the footage from Valentine's to show the last times Sue was happy with her husband. The whole video is showing us the depth of the relationship Sue had, and what was betrayed.

But the more I look at these old videos, the less sure I am that CM was Sue's husband. If the "resume" is what we suspect it is, CM has been doing this, at the rate of a victim at least every 2-4 years, since 1989! If he met Sue at least as early as 6/5/01, it means he's had 3 other victims while he was going out with her. On the flip side, he hasn't had a victim since 8/19/04...which means if they only got serious in the past couple years and hadn't moved in together before then, then he could still conceivably be hiding people in the basement without her knowing before then.

Two other possibilities I see:

1) CM wasn't the one married to Sue. Maybe CM just stole the video footage. Heck, maybe Tom D. Cesear is actually Sue's husband.

2) Going back to the alternate personalities theory, "Tom" could have been Sue's husband, and the CM personality could have been buried for a long time while they were happy -- since at least 8/19/04. Then the whole affair with Eric thing made CM resurface and Tom is now mostly buried, aside from dropping cryptic hints where he can.

**Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:39 pm

StarkRavingMad · Decorated Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 250

The name of the latest video has changed! It used to be "Smoking HOT chick caught on hidden camera!" and now it is "Smoking HOT mom's AFFAIR caught on hidden camera!" Maybe CM cluing us in a little more on what we are seeing.

Maybe even more important, there are new tags! Tags are now: the human pet sex love death horror man woman nudity MILF lesbian lingerie porn naked sexy bikini voyeur emen nics ors

"emen nics ors" is the most obvious thing there, some sort of code (although I am also surprised to see "lesbian" on there). It does not appear to ROT-13 into anything useful. There are some anagrams I can see from it ("Nice Sermon" "Come Sinner") but I'm not sure if anything is helpful.

**Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:48 pm

Windmill Hill · Boot Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 69 Location: Bellevue, WA

I know, I know I keep going back to the pedigree chart, but it seems like we only have one unidentified question mark - the brother/sister of Sue's husband (who may or may not be the CM, but I'm thinking is). We also have one unidentified mysterious character - Tom D Cesear... My thoughts - Tom D Cesear = CM's brother - maybe they both had crazy parents (who are both now dead according to the chart)...

**Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:22 pm

Wabonan · Entrenched Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1185

Who ever TDC is, Hes psychic or an extraordanery hacker to have gotten the inside info he has from both sides

**Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:39 pm

NovaChild

**Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:48 pm

Windmill Hill · Boot Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 69 Location: Bellevue, WA

I said this before: Eric sons men

But I think come sinners is more likely

**Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:19 am

my2juneboys · Boot Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 48

**Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:28 am