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st5801
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Uberg33k wrote:
st5801 wrote:
m@te wrote:
Further to the above on Alpha Omega/Mind Labs.

I did a search for "Oderon City" from the AOML game description
and found a link to Polygot rpg magazine (V4:i5). Inside there is a 'review' of AO with exactly the same desc. as the ML site contains.

Does contain another AOML image worth looking at IMO tho, some sort of pincer robots and a creature underwater...

First post so go easy.

What's Oderon City?
Um, he tells you what it is. Its the name of a city in the Alpha Omega game/universe.

I have a question : all of you just starting on the puzzles, how are you finding the site? I'd be curious to follow around anyone who is seeding the site to other forums to see if that leads anywhere.

I don't see any mention of Oderon City on the Mind Storm Labs site.

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m@te wrote:
Further to the above on Alpha Omega/Mind Labs.

I did a search for "Oderon City" from the AOML game description
and found a link to Polygot rpg magazine (V4:i5). Inside there is a 'review' of AO with exactly the same desc. as the ML site contains.


One thing it also contains, which I have not previously come across (unless I missed it), is an actual street address for Mind Storm Labs.
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I don't see any mention of Oderon City on the Mind Storm Labs site.


http://rss.mindstormlabs.com/item.php?id=10
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 		Just been searching Polyglot back issues and found another mention of AO. Couple of nice background paragraphs about how the MLAO RPG is envisaged to work/develop as well.

Its V3:i8, pp.25. I would put up a link but havent looked how to yet Embarassed (again) and their pdf docs as well- but just google Polyglot and V#s.

For me the image of the robots/adv techs chimes with the EHWR/mezin theme whilst the 'monster' image lends itself to Cloverfield/Slurpo. Oh, and could Triton Ent. be the link between them?

Ill get me coat Laughing

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 		As posted on my blog...

http://nighthawkdf.blogspot.com/

...Mind Storm Labs appears in the Internet Archive Wayback Machine as far back as May, with site notices in January.

Still not 100% convinced no. In the 90s...

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Uberg33k wrote:
I have a question : all of you just starting on the puzzles, how are you finding the site? I'd be curious to follow around anyone who is seeding the site to other forums to see if that leads anywhere.


I found EHWR.com from a post on www.mathpuzzle.com.
-LU

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theonetruebix wrote:
I think we killed it.
???

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Finding David Carter.
I don't understand how that constitutes you thinking we killed it.

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 		Sorry, it wasn't a response, just a digression.

I was wondering if we killed it because they've done basically nothing with the EHWR campaign for days now. Outside adding an email address to Triton, in fact, they've done nothing since very early this past week.
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skitzophr3ak wrote:
I sent an e-mail to Erik again with GROW in the subject bar and GROW as the message.

The response I and a few others have received to that was as follows
Quote:

Subject: 8-1-07
11:29 pm (11 minutes ago)

Αυτό που δεν μπορείτε να δείτε θα σας σκοτώσει...

<snip>

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... the second e-mail's morse code translated to a bizarre sequence of numbers,
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"913 965 964 972 960 959 965 948 949 957 956 960 959 961 949 943 964 949 957 945 948 949 943 964 949 952 945 963 945 962 963 954 959 964 974 963 949 953 ..."



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The "bizarre sequence of numbers" are Unicode values for the Greek text at the top of the message.


-LU

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 		Not dead yet
theonetruebix wrote:
Sorry, it wasn't a response, just a digression.

I was wondering if we killed it because they've done basically nothing with the EHWR campaign for days now. Outside adding an email address to Triton, in fact, they've done nothing since very early this past week.
I really don't think that we are dead in the water yet...but I do have an idea.

I think we should do some checking for this Beta Test. Here is what I mean. while the puppetmasters (be they at ML or elsewhere) are going to be closed lipped, that does not hold true about the people who are testing the game. They may not be able to tell us much about the game, but one or more of them are going to have spilled that they are IN a test.

Here is my thought. If we could get a call out in a general forum here for contact info for someone in the Play Testing(which is what it is really called in the industry for a tabletop game) for Alpha Omega, we might be able to determine once and for all that ML is part of the Meta or part of the ARG.

Word of caution, though, just because we don't get any contact from Play Testers does not mean that the Play Testers do not exist.

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On another thought train. Something struck me as odd while writting this post. In the tabletop world, testing of a game is called Play Testing never Beta Testing. So, either this is not actually a Tabletop RPG as we have been led to believe, or it is part of the game, or (and it is possible) who ever it was that wrote the site was out of the loop. Currently I am going with option 3 as the most likely with option 2 close behind.

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 		Re: Not dead yet
Faeriemage wrote:
In the tabletop world, testing of a game is called Play Testing never Beta Testing. So, either this is not actually a Tabletop RPG as we have been led to believe, or it is part of the game, or (and it is possible) who ever it was that wrote the site was out of the loop. Currently I am going with option 3 as the most likely with option 2 close behind.


against Option 3: I don't think they are "out of the loop" with respect to the gaming industry. Link: "Mind Storm Labs is focused on producing games that will bring life back to the table-top game market... The team at Mind Storm Labs has over twenty years of experience playing, designing, and implementing role-playing settings and themes"

against Option 2: They put all that work into beautiful graphics and an online flash game, only for a promotion? Maybe. The artwork will still translate well enough to high-quality glossy print for companion books. (See the pretty picture on their home page)

against Option 1: Their press release says it is a table-top game. Link: First Table-Top RPG Release, Alpha Omega, Slated for Fall 2007

I think they probably made the decision that "Play Testing" sounds archaic and perhaps frivolous, while "Beta Testing" sounds professional and serious -- to the uneducated audience they hope to lure into trying an "old school" form of entertainment with a fresh look and feel.

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 		I think it's a video game... I'm a software developer, and reading through that site it just reeks "video game."

And, OK, so maybe "play testing" and "beta testing" might be interchangeable. But on their site they state that they're doing ALPHA and BETA testing, which as far as I knew were exclusively programming terms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_testing

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- Alpha testing is simulated or actual operational testing by potential users/customers or an independent test team at the developers' site. Alpha testing is often employed for off-the-shelf software as a form of internal acceptance testing, before the software goes to beta testing.

- Beta testing comes after alpha testing. Versions of the software, known as beta versions, are released to a limited audience outside of the company. The software is released to groups of people so that further testing can ensure the product has few faults or bugs. Sometimes, beta versions are made available to the open public to increase the feedback field to a maximal number of future users.


Betas are usually sent "...to a limited audience outside of the company." People sign up for these things; the public helping out is key to a good product. The fact that they have gone through both Alpha and Beta testing without a single person in the public knowing about it is not only borderline impossible but it's a death sentence for the product.

I still have my doubts as to whether EHWR is related to Mind Storm Labs...


Has anyone tried disassembling the EHWR Flash? I've tried... and there's no source?!? How is that possible???

http://nighthawkdf.blogspot.com/

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