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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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JimmieBJr
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eacaraxe wrote:
Also, it's within the realm of reason the former cameraman at the party dropped the cam and ran for it, since it was dropped and Rob ostensibly came back to pick it up (since he was ahead of the cameraman at the beginning), and hand it off to someone else. Why would he do that?


We know the camera was dropped during the flight down the stairs.

Who picked up the camera? Hmmm...I wonder...Wink



Sure looks like Rob to me. And he looks far from confused or panicked at this point, which strikes me as...interesting. Just to make sure it's Rob, though, look at his tie.



That's the same striped tie we know he was wearing earlier.

And a few trailer-seconds later, someone else had the camera because we're following Rob out of the building.

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 		Good point about the looking for more websites, but J.J. is probably used to his audience looking into the actual video works in-depth. Lost fans are known to pour over screenshots for clues and listen to dialouge and sounds backwards. Also, the writer, Drew Goddard, has written for Lost.

There's somethat that feels astoundingly simple about all of this info, like its on the tips of everyone's tongues, and its like the creators of Lost always say, we all missed the biggest easter eggs in the very first episode and have yet to find it. Maybe we should focus on whats initially presented to us: the trailer.

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drho244 wrote:

I'll have to hand it to you, you've looked more into this trailer than I have. I honestly have never been apart of any past ARGs, but I don't exactly see this one as an ARG either, at least not until we have more than a trailer and a couple of pictures. I can't imagine putting Rob's actions under a microscope benefiting with any clues to lead to pieces of the story or another website. And that's what I believe we should be looking for, the other websites which haven't been found. I don't know where we should start with that though.

I'm still not getting enough vibe from Slusho to relate it to the trailer, over a shirt. I'm not crossing out the idea, i'm just trying to stick with what we know as a fact.


I'm not entirely sure it's an ARG either, but it feels a lot like an Arg, especially based on the e-mail from Abrams. At the very least it's a hunt for a few web sites, which makes for good fun, too.

Rob may end up being a dead end. But right now, he's the biggest clue we really have mostly because he's the one that Abrams has put in front of it. He could well just be a bastard and put Rob there as a ginormous red herring, but he doesn't seem to work like that.

As far as Slusho goes, you're right. We don't have it as fact. But we do have enough to push things to the realm of very high probability. The shirt seems to be a clue because there's no real reason to put it in the trailer in such a prominent place (after all, it was pretty much right in the center of the screen there where Abrams knew we'd say, "What the heck was that?") if it weren't. Add to that the Slusho site being active for such a short time and it's very suggestive - enough to consider it part of the game until we see otherwise.

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 		 yellowcard
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the guy at the bar is the lead singer from yellowcard. interestingly enough, yellowcard put out a brand new song called Light Up The Sky. in the video, a city is in ruins. please check it out. i know its a stretch but i t could be something. Shocked

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JimmieBJr wrote:
We know the camera was dropped during the flight down the stairs.

Who picked up the camera? Hmmm...I wonder...Wink

Sure looks like Rob to me. And he looks far from confused or panicked at this point, which strikes me as...interesting. Just to make sure it's Rob, though, look at his tie.

That's the same striped tie we know he was wearing earlier.

And a few trailer-seconds later, someone else had the camera because we're following Rob out of the building.


Bingo. When I saw the trailer for the film, I saw it was Rob and wondered to myself "why would he run back to grab the camera?" It's a good guess he wants a record of the events. Why, who knows, but you don't run back into a throng of panicked, stampeding people for no good reason; somehow I doubt "I can sell this @&$^ to CNN for some serious cash!" is a good reason for someone moving to Japan. That's beside the point; I'm willing to wager the biggest clue is either the license plate (Rob's car?) or the map, which I can't make out personally.

As a brief aside, someone else noted that the first time the creature screamed, Rob seemed to recognize it immediately. He was even looking in the proper direction when the horizon went kaboom, as if he expected to see something.

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JimmieBJr wrote:
Rob may end up being a dead end. But right now, he's the biggest clue we really have mostly because he's the one that Abrams has put in front of it. He could well just be a bastard and put Rob there as a ginormous red herring, but he doesn't seem to work like that.


That reminds me of the original fate of Jack from Lost. He is written as the intended protagonist, but then is killed by the monster during the middle of the Pilot. This concept wasn't well recieved by others, so it was (obviously) changed. Just musing, sorry if its a little OT.

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 		Re: yellowcard
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oc3lot wrote:
the guy at the bar is the lead singer from yellowcard. interestingly enough, yellowcard put out a brand new song called Light Up The Sky. in the video, a city is in ruins. please check it out. i know its a stretch but i t could be something. Shocked

What makes you believe the actor is the guy from Yellowcard?

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 		Another aside
in regards the Slusho! site history. Someone previously mentioned Shinto, I believe, in relation to the use of the word "libation" and it's interesting to note that Yoshida is a form of original Shinto beliefs. Also known as yuiitsu shintō ("only-one Shintō"), sōgen shintō ("original Shintō"), and genpon sōgen shintō ("fundamental and original Shintō"). Another aside. Please, don't think too poorly of me. I am searching for these terms to make sure I don't post info that's too fishy.

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 		im new. and definitely not sober at the moment.

i didn't quite know what to search for to see if this had already been posted, so i'll just throw it out there and if it's already been discussed, sorry.



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 		Just to clarify something, we're throwing around JJ Abrams' name a lot as though he's the director of the film and the trailer. Keep in mind that he only produced the movie, and depending on the situation, producers can be anywhere from extrememly involved in the film itself to barely involved at all, only working to facilitate the director's desires. Obviously the producer is the "boss" of a movie, but my point is that we should give some credit where credit is due: writer Drew Goddard and director Matt Reeves.

And I wholeheartedly agree that this is going to revolve quite a bit around Rob. Just the fact that his name is such an "everyman" name like Rob tells me he's going to be your typical over-achiever life of the party, someone everyone loves, and who then gets in over his head in some way. And I like that. Also, considering the budget (a paltry $30M, if reports are correct), there will likely be less FX than in the big budget blockbusters. This is likely to be more of a character movie than the summer blockbusters, which has me more intrigued that I would otherwise be for a "monster movie."

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What makes you believe the actor is the guy from Yellowcard?



actually, a few people seem to think its that guy. And they're not that seemingly offbase





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bakntime wrote:
Just to clarify something, we're throwing around JJ Abrams' name a lot as though he's the director of the film and the trailer. Keep in mind that he only produced the movie, and depending on the situation, producers can be anywhere from extrememly involved in the film itself to barely involved at all, only working to facilitate the director's desires. Obviously the producer is the "boss" of a movie, but my point is that we should give some credit where credit is due: writer Drew Goddard and director Matt Reeves."

THis is a very good point. But I can't imagine Adams to not be elbow-deep in this project. But perhaps we should check into past works of these otehr two gentlemen, and try to get a feel for their style. That may give us some clues or at least fresh ideas.

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urbanhymn wrote:
actually, a few people seem to think its that guy. And they're not that seemingly offbase



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Yeah, it does look like him. I'm not sure what clues or meaning that could have though.

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poopoopeepee wrote:
im new. and definitely not sober at the moment.

i didn't quite know what to search for to see if this had already been posted, so i'll just throw it out there and if it's already been discussed, sorry.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1551/wtfpm9.jpg


If you watch the explosion full speed, you'll see that what's circled there is a piece of flying rock/debris from the explosion. It originates as one of the projectiles emerging from the initial explosion, then flies behind the building in an arc, re-emerging from behind it in the screen cap you have posted. At full speed, it happens really fast, but if you follow it, you can see the piece of debris fly in an arc from the center of the explosion all the way along this path, where it either crashes through the building on the right, or very nearly does.

drho244 wrote:
THis is a very good point. But I can't imagine Adams to not be elbow-deep in this project. But perhaps we should check into past works of these otehr two gentlemen, and try to get a feel for their style. That may give us some clues or at least fresh ideas.

Excellent point as well. And yes, I do agree that it's very likely that JJ is heavily involved in the overseeing of the project, and as evidenced by his message on AICN to Harry Knowles, he knows what's going on with the movie's web presence fairly well.

I just thought that it bared mentioning that the writers, director, and other producers might have as much, if not more, impact on the final film than JJ, but I agree JJ won't just let this project "do its own thing."

I'll dig up what I can on the other crew to see if that gives us any leads.

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 		Also I saw this on another forum, but I'm not sure if it's been mentioned here since I haven't read the entire thread. On the Slusho page:

"1 Big cup, 18 cups total, 8 full cups
1-18-08 "

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