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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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urbanhymn
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THis is a very good point. But I can't imagine Adams to not be elbow-deep in this project. But perhaps we should check into past works of these otehr two gentlemen, and try to get a feel for their style. That may give us some clues or at least fresh ideas.


Drew Goddard, the writer, is responsible for some of the big 'WTF' episodes of the third season of Lost: Flashes Before Your Eyes, The Man From Tallahassee, and The Man Behind the Curtain, and also, The Glass Ballerina (less heavy on WTF). He also wrote many episodes for the 7th season of BtVS.

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Some of this is rehasing previous stuff (sorry about that), but hopefully this is a better "all in one post" reference guide to the production team's previous work.

JJ Abrams, probably the most familiar to most of us, has worked on(directed/written/created) various projects, among which include LOST, Alias, Felicity, and MI:3. (See below for IMDB link for JJ as well as Reeves and Goddard).

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Director Matt Reeves' directorial experience (mostly television work):

"Conviction" (1 episode, 2006)
- Pilot (2006) TV Episode
"Miracles" (1 episode, 2003)
- Pilot (2003) TV Episode
"Felicity" (5 episodes, 1998-2001)
- The Declaration (2001) TV Episode
- The Slump (2000) TV Episode
- Felicity Was Here (1999) TV Episode
- The Last Stand (1998) TV Episode
- Pilot (1998) TV Episode
"Gideon's Crossing" (1 episode, 2000)
- The Gift (2000) TV Episode
"Homicide: Life on the Street" (1 episode, 1997)
- All Is Bright (1997) TV Episode
"Relativity" (1 episode, 1997)
- Billable Hours (1997) TV Episode
The Pallbearer (1996)
Future Shock (1993) (segment "Mr. Petrified Forrest")

He was also producer/executive producer/writer for several episodes of Felicity.

Looking at his work, most of it is clearly un-monster-movie-like work, which is in a way quite interesting. This does lend creedence to the idea that 1-18-08 will be quite character-centric rather than a classic, prototypical b-type horror/monster flik.

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Drew Goddard has written and otherwise been involved in the JJ Abrams produced LOST and Alias, as well as the Joss Whedon shows Angel and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Joss Whedon has done some great stuff, so if Drew worked for him as well as writing some of the more interesting episodes of LOST, I'm confident this script will be a good one.

Of course, you never know how much of the story was conjured up by whom, so Goddard, Abrams, Reeves, or any of the others may have come up with the basic plot outline for Goddard to work with.

How ever it works out, though, I like the fact that Goddard is the lead writer.


IMDB links:

J.J. Abrams

Drew Goddard

Matt Reeves


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just thought you would find it interesting that the phone # from 1-18-08 is from an airport in Santa Monica Ca that used to be known as Cloverfield but did you ever stop and realize that Barker Hanger is at that airport and thats where E3 is being held this week.....See the connection????

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Yall are making some sweeping assumptions here....

Why do you think Rob picked up the camera? It's camcorder Blair Witch style....and that scene, they're running down stairs in a hurry and the camera is just gonna bounce around....it doesn't necessarily imply it got dropped, it could just be moving...or whoever was holding it held it in that classic unfocused, distracted way, or turned it upsidedown, or changed hands, etc. and in that movement it got a shot of Rob higher up on the stairs and behind. Nothing about that scene makes it definitively clear the camera got dropped, but everything about it suggests that realistically in that moment the one holding onto the camera was more focused on getting downstairs amid a bunch of others going downstairs and no longer focused on getting a good shot....hence all the bumping and moving and scewed perspectives.

If you're holding it and shit happens and you take off running downstairs, at some point you will drop your arms down for balance, camera in it or not, and when you get situated, recover - that simple movement from the camera's perspective would be a raising up again from a lowered, as opposed to dropped, position. I've watched the trailer 50fuckin times and at no point on the trip downstairs is the camera stationary, it's always moving - and it's moving from its held position. When it gets Rob in the shot from having been behind, the holder could've just rushed by Rob down the stairs and the camera was jostled around and got recovered.


The other one that's just a peeve is that the going away party is taking place at Rob's apartment. We don't know that and nothing whatsoever suggests it. That place might not even *be* an apartment, it might be some place they all hung out together as a group - community loft or something along that line - there's graffitti all over one wall, a foozeball table, all sorts of memorabelia, lots of pictures of all sorts of people, and a bathroom soon as 'you' walk in the door - look at the room to his right, door's open, toilet back in there. What apartment puts a bathroom right at the front door?

And even if it *is* an apartment, who said it's Rob's? It could belong to any of them and they had Rob show up there to surprise him - and consider for a second, given the amount of shit they'd be carting in, two wetbars, decorations, the music source, the posters/decorations, the buffet, food, et al - how likely is that to be to get all that in somebody else's house without them knowing (presumably the surprise was legit of course)....he seemed pretty surprised. It's a Friday night - date check - where would he have been in all that time?

There's nothing to legitimately suggest it's his residence over anybody else's, and it's not completely verified it was anybody's apartment either way given some of the stuff there.

Yall make some sweeping assumptions on this without a shred of good evidence to support it (dropped camera and Rob picks it up?? and it's Rob's apt), and yet something that's glaringly connected like Slusho, with valid evidence it's in game, that was naturally and logically discovered, you wanna be iffy about? Seriously?


PS: Whichever one of you it was that saw the 1-18 pics pulsing, you are not alone....I just saw that happening too - posted on it in the Perspective thread....THAT is trippy as all hell!


disclaimer: well it might have been 50fuckin times, I didn't count but the bleeding from my eyeballs usually begins after about 40 times.... /end disclaimer Razz

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About the apartment thing: Well done, that actually did not occur to me. Then again, its horrendously late.

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Actually, there should be a correction on clover field. It's beside clover park....and yes, we who have been on it from page one covered this on page 1 and 2....

and no on the connection but what is E3 ?

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First, watch the camera movements in the stairs. Movement, then a blackout, then a shot of the camera moving quickly toward the ground. Another blackout, then a shot of Rob moving towards the camera and leaning forward, hands extended, towards the motionless camera -- as he faces against the flow of traffic. It's possible the camera is still in the possession of the cameraman, who fell (and is probably being trampled) and Rob is helping him to his feet, but there still likely would have been camera movement. It's a matter of deduction based upon camera movement and angles, in the larger context of the flow of people and Rob's movement.

As for whether the place is an apartment or a hangout, we are given enough context that it is a living space which belongs to someone -- furniture, the personalized kitchen, the presence of personal effects and possessions which normally would not be found in a public establishment. Whoever lives in the apartment is a major japanophile -- the artwork, the food, the decor, and various effects laying about all speak to that fact. Since Rob apparently is moving to Japan or leaving on an extended trip, it is not a long stretch of the imagination that he either is the main resident of that apartment or a roommate.

You are correct to bring up that it may not be his apartment, but since we're playing at this point what is essentially a guessing game we should not fail to explore any potential hint, especially those in the direction of which we seem to be directed.

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tinag222 wrote:
Yall are making some sweeping assumptions here....

Why do you think Rob picked up the camera?

Well, first off, I wouldn't say they're assumptions as much as speculations based on observations. Obviously nobody knows for sure, and nobody should be saying anything with any amount of certainty, just as we should take everyone's observations with a grain of salt.

As for the camera being dropped, to me, the reason I think it was dropped is due to the fact that during this entire trailer, pretty much the whole thing (even during times of chaos), the camera is upright. During these brief moments where the camera is upside down, it doesn't appear to be moving anywhere. It's rocking/shaking a little but not moving. Immediately prior and immediately after it's upside down and apparently not moving, it's upright and moving. It also seems fairly clear that Rob has to lean down for his hand to reach the camera lens. What other reason could he have for reaching down towards a camera in such chaos unless he spotted it on the ground by the stairs and wanted to pick it up.

I guess it's just me, but I think that scene gives a clear impression that the camera has fallen on the stairs, is kind of rocking back and forth, and Rob leans down to pick it up. But I'll never say something is 100%.



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The other one that's just a peeve is that the going away party is taking place at Rob's apartment. We don't know that and nothing whatsoever suggests it.


Again, I think it's a fairly easy assumption to make, that because Rob is the "star" of the trailer (as someone pointed out he's on screen virtually the entire time), the environment we see is there to give us more insight into who he is. If we're going to assume that the people making this movie know what they're doing, then there's a very good reason that we're shown all these personal effects (such as the stuff on the fridge, the Japanese decorations, etc). It just makes sense that if Rob is the star character of the trailer with him spending a lot of time in frame, as well as his friends talking about him, then it's a logical assumption that the little details that we catch glimpses of all around relate to him in some personal way. I mean, if they're not his, and all this decor doesn't relate to Rob, who does it relate to, and why would they feature so much of it in the trailer if it was one of his anonymous friends?

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There is another connection to Slusho you all I guess haven't caught but On all the production tracks for this movie it says on the sides of the Slusho You Can't just drink 6 and there is a movie insider quoted saying on a website that you can see the movie being filmed around LA just follow the Slusho signs.

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Anonymous wrote:
There is another connection to Slusho you all I guess haven't caught but On all the production tracks for this movie it says on the sides of the Slusho You Can't just drink 6 and there is a movie insider quoted saying on a website that you can see the movie being filmed around LA just follow the Slusho signs.


Yeah, all of that is fairly old news. It's been mentioned several times in this thread. There have been links to images of these filming notices as well.

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Anonymous wrote:
There is another connection to Slusho you all I guess haven't caught but On all the production tracks for this movie it says on the sides of the Slusho You Can't just drink 6 and there is a movie insider quoted saying on a website that you can see the movie being filmed around LA just follow the Slusho signs.


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how do you think people found out about the slusho website to begin with. shuuuuuutup.

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O.k Doing some reading on the IMDB forum i saw something that cought my attenction. Now before you all call me a noob and what not this is none of my stuff just posts on the IMDB forum. ok listen up.

Now we all know the video game Rampage. Ok here are some peoples theories on this that might be related to 1-18-08.

Starting off with this post that got me searching.

"It has to be, think about it. And if not, then I am WAY too excited for a Rampage movie. But the story to Rampage and this, albeit way too crpytic, are too similar to just brush off."

Then the post after brought me to this.

"Rampage. Look on Page 4 and read syko-paranova's idea, not the first time and some of the most reliable ideas so far we're along the same lines as this guy... (here:http://imdb.com/title/tt1060277/board/thread/79257368?d=79266299&p=4#79266299) "

So i went to that link and read this

"as soon as i heard about the whole slusho thing i immediatly thought of the videogame

Rampage:Total destruction where you have six starting monsters

George the Ape
Lizzie the Dinosaur
Ralph the Wolf
Gilman the Blowfish
Rhett the Rat
Ramsey the Ram

and in this game they were all transformed into monsters by a type of soda, i cant remember the name, but it was from a lab and then they just go out and destroy cities, if you've played the rampage series you know what i'm talking about..."

i started to laugh then i thought hang on a second. The movie does have a monster in it maybe a few we dont no for sure cause well if you think about it, the monster couldent of made that big ball of fire that spits out metors that the cam had to zoom in on, then run all the way to the SOL and throw the head in what a matter on 15 seconds. Another thing that cought me off guard was the drink feature in the game, and in relastion to the slusho drink that is connected to the movie.

Now you are all thinking, ahhhhhh what but the film is being recored though a camcorder. Yes and i thought about that for a well, and thinking for a while i thought well you cant really tell a story from a monsters point of view can you, you can but those movies are lame and boring but some you can. now think about this wouldent you yourself like to recored something that really did happen like rampage where monsters are running around distorting crap. I know i would lol

Please dont bash me on this, its just a thought and kinda does make sense if you think about for a bit you never know.

And by the way the movie for rampage is set to release in 2008. And if you click on the link here it shows nothing at all.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0942383/

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eyes

has anyone noticed that in the pics on 1-18-08 the is only one eye visible on each character. one is is always covered or turned away. just a thought

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Re: eyes

oc3lot wrote:
has anyone noticed that in the pics on 1-18-08 the is only one eye visible on each character. one is is always covered or turned away. just a thought
Very intersting. Of the seven different people pictured in the two photographs, two of them have none of their eyes visible, while the other five have just one eye visible. It could just be a coincidence, but maybe it's a bigger clue.

5 people, each with one eye showing. 2 people with no eyes showing. Or so it seems.

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JimmieBJr wrote:

3) I have to agree with whoever first said that Rob looks a lot more worried than confused. Everyone else seems to be throwing off WTF?!?! body-language. Rob is throwing off "oh no" vibes. First sign of that is after the power comes back and he's turning away from the window. He's passed briefly by a young woman (who, I believe, is one of the two women in the "two women" 1-18-07 picture) who is moving away from the window fast and headed somewhere else. Right before the shot changes, he runs his hand through his hair in a classic "Oh my God" move. When he's on the roof, he honestly looks scared spitless. It could be an honest reaction, but his body language seems well out of place compared to that of everyone else.


Thats just good honest hero behaviour, that is Smile

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