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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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Anyone notice that Mezin Source of ethanhaaswaswrong.blogspot.com lists his location as Latvia?

Mean anything?

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dmax wrote:
News article today

From that article:
Quote:
Is it all related? Beats us,

Is "comingsoon.net" an official news outlet, with insider knowledge? Or are they propagating the rumors that these items are connected? I'm willing to believe that the game is related to the movie, but i'm still in "show me" mode.

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 		Whoa, whoa, whoa!

Will you guys read some of what you have written here? There is entirely too much speculation and WAGs going on here. We will get more done by sticking to what is given to us rather than running off in every which way chasing the faintest of leads.
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So what do we know?

The Movie Trailer
Its a film from JJ Abrahms, directed by Matt Reeves, and is written by Drew Goddard. The cast is unknown actors. The film is being shot in NYC. It has the involvement of ILM, Bad Robot, and Paramount. It has the codename of "clover" or "cloverfield". The trailer is shown through multiple takes of what appear to be home videos. The videos show a going away party, followed by a massive explosion. Subsequent scenes show debris raining down on NYC, the Empire State building blowing up, and the Statue of Liberty's head falling in the street. There was no title for the movie given. The trailer mentions 1-18-08 at the end. The trailer has been removed from YouTube, but there are higher quality captures floating around on the Internet already. Download them while you can.

1-18-08.com
There are two pictures that are dated and time stamped. Flash animation allows them to be moved around the screen like photos on a table. Both pictures show stills similar to the trailer. The second photograph shows the man (Rob?) and his going away party that was definitely in the trailer.

ethanhaaswasright.com
There is currently only a strong correlation between EHWR and 1-18-08 at this time. Both show scenes of the destruction of a city, both have a thing for 1 and 8 (the next phase of EHWR is 8-1), and both are claimed as copyright by Paramount Pictures.

The website is made up of 5 puzzles. After finishing each puzzle, a video is unlocked. A transcription of each one is needed. The summation is that lots of people will die, we are being deceived and this Van hopes to open our eyes, and the destruction to come was forseen by someone named Ethan Haas. At the end of the last puzzle, you're given a code and asked to enter your name and email for a reminder to return on 8-1. Whatever comes on 8-1, we only have 30 days to act on. Buried in the source of the website is the following text
Quote:
...war came, no longer from the elemental nor from the star's rain of fire. The world was again remade, and the glow was as the coming of the sun upon the Earth. The children of the gods were again too few, scattered and divided and among them walked the ancients and those whose thoughts were not as to the towers and the marvels, but to the End and the destruction of the Earth and to the fires from which nothing could escape.


The registrant of this website is Van Mantra. His contact email (vanSPLATethanhaaswasright.com) gives an auto response with hints to the puzzles, however, live responses have been received from this address. The registration phone number has a recorded message from Van that is similar in theme to the website videos (transcription needed). To date, its unknown if he will return messages left at this number.
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That's it people. Everything else is speculation at this point. I would be especially suspicious of any blogs claiming to be affiliated with either site. It never seems to fail that every ARG has some numbnuts who pretends to be affiliated with the game by snagging a URL of significance. Unless they provide some indisputable proof of affiliation, take them all with a massive grain of salt. It doesn't hurt to keep an eye on them, but don't let them cloud your vision.

At any rate, I suspect that doing a lot of detective work at this point is a waste of time. I'd be willing to bet money that between now and 8-1, 1-18-08.com will only be updated periodically with pictures that are from the trailer or very similar. EHWR.com has clearly stated that we get nothing till August 1. It would seem the best course of action is to finish the puzzles, get on the mailing list, and wait for the next phase to be revealed. If you really want to get your Sherlock on, production of the film is supposedly going on right now. I'm sure Manhattanites could probably tell you the approximate location of the outdoor scenes in the trailer. Start looking in those general areas for a film crew.

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catherwood wrote:
dmax wrote:
News article today

From that article:
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Is it all related? Beats us,

Is "comingsoon.net" an official news outlet, with insider knowledge? Or are they propagating the rumors that these items are connected? I'm willing to believe that the game is related to the movie, but i'm still in "show me" mode.
As I mention in the post below your original, the biggest thing tying them together is that Paramount sent YouTube takedown orders for the 1-18-08 trailer and 3 of the 5 Ethan Haas movies on the same day. Its fairly unlikely that Paramount has two projects involving the mass destruction of a city with a creepy/sci-fi vibe to it within anything resembling a close timeframe of one another.

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Same here, Catherwood.

It just seems to me there is no direct link or reference to the Ethan puzzle. It amounts to these gaming and video sites just posting reports of rumors it's related, but as someone pointed out earlier, they never state the specific link to how it's related.

The deal with Paramount pulling the bootleg trailer video and also apparently pulling the videos off YT from the puzzle game (unless I read that wrong) seems pointless if the videos are still in the game they're supplying - if they are at all.

It seems to me that the Ethan puzzle was inserted and these sites are just round robin viral sharing it and nobody is actually trying to find out HOW it's related and people are assuming it is cause it's now mentioned alongside Abrams' new secret project. So how and where did it originally appear. The actual person/s that passed off the Ethan puzzle, did they just tell a video/gaming site "it's related, take my word for it" or did they provide some point of reference back to the trailer itself?

So far nobody seems to know where Ethan puzzle came from, it just showed up "as related" and people ran off with it.


But that's Paramount....


If it is, then great - not a problem...but how it fits in and why we should accept it's part of the actual trailer story/game is what needs to come to the surface...

There is an immediate and quite glaring direct cross reference to Albert Pike as registrants of both sectorseven.org - which was an ARG game for Transformers, and for 1-18-08....

What if they didn't use Albert Pike. What if instead the registrants on each site had been Evan Chan with someone named "Elliot Skywalker" as a tech contact.

Everyone here would immediately root out this being an arg and that Spielberg reference, and the AI game and be well on the way down a trail that both sites are related somehow.

Albert Pike, shill or not, is still connecting both these sites and the trailer before the movie has some relevance here.


A possible link based on the info coming about Abrams specifically, and Transformers specifically would be something like this:


In the movie (Transformers), at the end the gist of it is that they remained on earth and blended in. S7 was allegedly ordered shut down. Planet is saved, boy gets girl and coolkickinass car. Happy ending.

Mystery movie trailer shows something huge and alive showing up in NY blowing up stuff and roaring. Abrams fingerprints reveal it's definitely a monster movie of some sort. But it's not even finished, or hasn't really gotten started.


Already mentioned in various movie sites is that there is a sequel for Transformers already "underway."


Albert Pike registers sectorseven in 2006 and registers 1-18-08 in 2007. Trailer for the latter makes its debut immediately prior to the release showing of the former.

No connection?


For all we know, Abrams' secret monster movie is connected to the Transformers sequel. There are the videos in the S7 site (deceptibot pw) of these bots transforming....all this leading to the movie. But S7 isn't shut down, it went another direction. In one of those videos there's the dinosaur one (hard to tell, didn't keep up there) and it roars in a similar fashion to whatever it was in NY that's alive and huge.

If they remained on earth, who says others didn't remain too and ultimately start raising hell come 1-18-08.

That, to me, is far more a valid, plausible link between both of them than some sudden flash puzzle and a guy named Ethan and Van, and videos that in no manner have even a vague reference back to 1-18-08, photos, NY, Rob, etc.

On the other hand, I did find the symbols on the S7 site somewhat similar to the flash puzzle's mystery symbols....and Pike is reported to have been adept at 16 someodd alphabets/symbols....but outside that it's still a little hard to see an INGAME link between these two sites. There's more of an IG link between Transformers movie and the mystery trailer and quite easy to stumble over....

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 		Tinag, two videos showing the puzzles on Youtube were taken down by Paramounts order. Although the connection was originally drawn beforehand, out of nowhere it seems (which is incredibly odd), this development provided some actual evidence. The whole Youtube red bar thing at the top "This video has been taken down at the request of Paramount", etc etc, that's what it said.

And your Albert Pike connections also have merit, but I doubt Abrams movie has anything to do with Transformers 2, movie wise, if that's what you're saying.

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 		Oddly enough, I saw this Ethan Haas site a few days ago--and I didn't even know about a potential link to 1-18-08 until I read this thread just now.

I'm not sure where I got the link, but I'll try to find it and post the site. It may give us a clue as to what people are promoting Ethan Haas--and therefore a clue to the connection between Ethan Haas and 1-18-08.
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 		This might be a stretch, and I know people are sick of hearing it... but there's one more connection to Lost:

That number listed in the WhoIs is a number for a Southern Cali airfield, right?

The setting for the last scene in the finale of Lost? A Southern Cali airfield.

...Or maybe I'm just too obsessed with Lost Very Happy

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Ishouldregister wrote:
This might be a stretch, and I know people are sick of hearing it... but there's one more connection to Lost:

That number listed in the WhoIs is a number for a Southern Cali airfield, right?

The setting for the last scene in the finale of Lost? A Southern Cali airfield.

...Or maybe I'm just too obsessed with Lost Very Happy



hmmmmm.... god i hate this! theres too many connections to too many different things!!

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Wasp - and the others

I'm not arguing that it's *not* related, I am asking *how* and what you and others are suggesting is mostly the Paramount incident which would qualify as Out Of Game. I got that much and yes, agree it's curious but it's not what I mean by related or linked.

I mean what is the IN GAME connection between the two.

And the 18 - 81 and destruction of a city is just not enough of a solid lead to accept on merit.

See, we who saw Transformers and the trailer - and those who were already of a mind to pick up on the 1-18-08 clue, and Abrams, etc. went into the rabbit hole IN GAME and let's say for the sake of argument that the whole connection of Albert Pike and S7 and Abrams' Lost reference of Henry Kelvin was nothing more than a little clue that there was a rabbit hole at all.

No sweat.

Someone, ZD I think it was, came in and kicked off this thread and while we are in the middle of FOLLOWING a trail "in game" related to figure out first of all IF it was a game and if so WHAT ABOUT, we're all still FOLLOWING the trail and it is leading somewhere if the clues are FOLLOWED.

Then all of a sudden someone pops in and just announces they're led to believe EHWR is related. When asked HOW SO, the person just pawns off "I know people."

Well hey, I know people too but that doesn't have squat to do with the trailer or the 50 links to cool flash puzzles I've got bookmarked. We all know people.

And what makes this suspect is that it was GIVEN, nobody followed that ORIGINAL trail and stumbled over Ethan in a natural flow of hunting down the clues.

Somebody appears out of the blue and just announces it's related without providing any information IN GAME as to how it is and how it's relevant at all to the trailer.

If, for example, having solved puzzle 4 or 5 in the Ethan game, one of the videos had somebody offside hollering "Hey Rob, get off the damn computer, the party's about to start" or "who's your main dude?" then I wouldn't have any questions. If the video guy specifically noted something directly relevant to what we were shown in the trailer itself - which for ALL of is us ALL we had to work with and then somebody ingeniusly figuring out to make the date of release a URL at all no matter if we didn't understand the story behind it yet, then that would be an INGAME link and nobody would be questioning it's validity.


Or, if the 1-18-08 site contained some sort of reference to Ethan Haas one way or the other, or maybe some hidden code/clue about checking the stars, or even a vague reference to one of the symbols from the puzzle embedded in the guy's right sleeve, then it would tie up as an INGAME link we naturally would discover.

And Paramount isn't too worried about copyright infringement, despite the convenient indy news articles because the mygaminglife site still has the "bootlegged" trailer on it and Paramount hasn't sued that guy yet - all of which would be OOG related.

Someone showed up and handed over Ethan Haas site....nobody found it INGAME naturally and that is why it's suspect on its face, and those suggesting it's related are pointing to the Paramount issue or the vague similarity of a city in ruins and Aug 1 being a reversal of Jan 18, which doesn't account for the extra 1 ;-p

If it's related IN GAME, great - I don't have an issue with it. I just wanna know how this ties in on the INGAME aspect cause there's a piece missing. Ethan Haas has a story. No sweat.

So far that has nada to do with the strange photos on 1-18 site and had I seen each site as a standalone incident there's not a single thing whatsoever I could point to to suggest a similarity between them either way, let alone be directly related somehow. I wouldn't come away from visiting either site back to back with the first thought that one had anything to do with the other.


I'd hate to get caught up in the Ethan story and miss important links in the Abrams trailer if they're not even connected, it'd be a huge waste of time following a herring, or even somebody managing to hijack some limelight to get their own puzzle game out there. It may well be Paramount's deal but that still doesn't *mean* it has anything to do with that trailer. There could be others that got pulled we never heard about so far....

That's all I'm saying. I got the OOG tie in.

Now we need the missing link, the bridge that ties the trailer to Ethan flash puzzle game at all (and just that on its face seems a little flaky given the content of the trailer)....the IN GAME tie in Wink

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The reason I said it's Cthulhu is because a character from an old television show called "The Class" also beared the name Ethan Haas (See "The Class" wiki). And on the wiki for this show, you will see that this man often prophecized about Cthulhu. Hence, the "Ethan Haas was right" website.

On another note, the time on that Photo, 12:36, look for that in the bible. Heres what it says:

"I can guarantee that on judgment day people will have to give an account of every careless word they say."

This could very well relate to Ethan Haas' prophecies.

Then, something that I found to be odd: Look at the cast of the movie, there is a woman from "The Class" on there.

I seriously doubt that this is all just a coincidence.

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I understand that Wink But that's all directly aimed at the Ethan Haas story...and that may be totally correct as far as whether Ethan was right or wrong and what *that* story is. I did find the Class link on page 1 or 2 of this thread and shared it....but the only reason I bothered was somebody showed up suggesting it was related. And frankly, nobody else on here just happened to figure it out either that the Ethan site was related....nobody on here had really had enough time to get sucked in before somebody injected Ethan into the flow. My wager is that had that not taken place, as of July 7, nobody on here would be even remotely discussing an Ethan puzzle at all...we'd all be focused on the 1-18 site and the changing photos and whatever could be gleaned from the WHOIS info and anything specifically regarding Abrams secret movie.

After a few hours it occurred to me that nobody suggested how so it was tied in....so I began to have reservations about following that trail. I liked the puzzle but my interest was on what's up with the mystery movie trailer, what is that about.

But Ethan Haas story doesn't draw back to the 1-18 site one way or the other. It's been mentioned or suggested the timestamp could be a biblical reference (based on what grounds, I do not know).

At this stage, given the introduction of the new photo and what they're doing, it doesn't seem to me the timestamp is a veiled biblical reference either way (so far). It looks more relevant to a timeframe of snapshots directly regarding what we saw in the trailer....and none of that has anything to do with Ethan Haas from what I can tell.

I'm not willing to say it's related *because* the photos are using flash and the Ethan game is flash ergo it's related. Wink


If the premise of the trailer is that it's being shown from the vantage point of the group at the party, who are already recording, then the photos being displayed with timestamps seem more likely to be pointing to a timeframe of events, or a timeline.

I think biblical reference off 12:36A is stretching it. And if it was, what's the A for? Most of us would consider it meant AM...in the morning. The next photo up shows a half hour jump backwards....to a party scene.

First is the party, second in the sequence is scared shitless chick, so something happens inside that window.

Don't think that has much to do with a flash puzzle, Ethan Haas, the ravings of a mad man, or biblical prophecy, the Class, etc.

SO FAR...I'll at least keep open to the evolution.

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If it's not related to the Picture/Movie, then why did Paramount take down all videos related to EthanHaaswasright.com

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 		Re: If it's not
Prophet wrote:
If it's not related to the Picture/Movie, then why did Paramount take down all videos related to EthanHaaswasright.com


And that's how we know it's related Wink

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