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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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AlexGrave
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 		3'rd new pic DOES NOT move like pic 1 or pic 2

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Rob1855
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 		Something else I just noticed.

The third picture pretty clearly references those images we saw the morning of 9/11 of the survivors walking back.

And we've pretty well determined that the explosion was at or near the site of the World Trade Center.

Well... think back to the creature in the hair from the first picture.


Does anyone remember the controversy surrounding this:


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AlexGrave
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 		There is no "creature in the hair" That is just hair with a light post behind it. We've already determined this.

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Rob1855
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AlexGrave wrote:
There is no "creature in the hair" That is just hair with a light post behind it. We've already determined this.

Sorry, don't buy it.

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prufrocker
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 		maybe things are bright because...
Rob1855 wrote:
The third picture could've been taken the morning of 9/11, and no one would be able to tell the difference. Dust, debris, smoke & haze.

What do I find interesting? You'd think an event of this magnitude would have an effect on the power grid.

Why are things so bright?


i don't know...maybe because it's a movie and they're shooting? have you ever seen the lighting on a set? even dark scenes are relatively bright.

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JimmieBJr
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 		Re: Picture order
stueyn wrote:

It's the order in which the pictures have been posted on the site.

pic_1 girls faces
pic_2 party
pic_3 smoke


Interesting....actually a couple interesting things.

If the intent of the site was to promote the suspense and scariness of a monster movie, the party pic is way out of place.

The photos aren't posted in time order either, something you'd expect if the intent is to "tell the story".

Only one photo falls inside the events of the trailer, but not in a way that gives any congruity to the story. You might expect a picture before or at the very beginning of the trailer, then the trailer, then the two other pictures.

It looks - and I'm just speculating here - like we're being pointed toward a thing or two but I can't see what.
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AlexGrave wrote:
3'rd new pic DOES NOT move like pic 1 or pic 2


Mine ticks just like the others...... dodgy coding!!

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JimmieBJr
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AlexGrave wrote:
3'rd new pic DOES NOT move like pic 1 or pic 2


It does. It's moving for me.

The movement of the pictures is so scattershot that I'm inclined to say it's just an artifact of the Flash coding and not anything intentional.
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 		A thorough Examination
After careful examination of the picture, I'm convinced that the two girls in the photo have some white soot/dust on them. Look carefully at their hair and skirts, they're definitely not clean. I'm also quite sure that this is another "Flash scene" when one of those fireballs rains down and there's blinding light just as it strikes. There's a slight bit of red eminating from the left of the picture, near the man who is running towards the camera; and it's quite too white in the picture to be caused just by the available light sources and white smoke. Remember that this is supposed to be nighttime, and to have so much smoke in the air that you could not see more than a few feet through it would make everything more darkened, unless the light source was behind the camera, which it is not.

But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

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 		3rd pic reveation...
I think that the third pic on 1-18 does reveal something...that this is not an ARG. While the first and second pic at least appeared to have more to them than what was on the surface, it is quite obvious that this new pic has absolutely NO clues in it whatsoever. There's nothing up for interpretation. Knowing this you gotta ask yourself "why would they release another picture with nothing to help us progress in the game? Its becuase there is no game ! This is just a teaser page that serves as an extension of the teaser trailer. They will keep feeding us pics of the attack little by little in chronological order up until the release of the movie. I'm guessing the last picture to be put on the site before it comes out will be a shot right before the big reveal of the mystery creature. And of course, to see the monster, you gotta see the movie. I'm gonna need one more "no help" pic to confirm what I already suspect. I'm done digin' until then. Now...that ethan haas game sounds like fun. Guess I'ma have to pop my ARG cherry with that one.

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 		Re: 3rd pic reveation...
Snake wrote:
I think that the third pic on 1-18 does reveal something...that this is not an ARG. While the first and second pic at least appeared to have more to them than what was on the surface, it is quite obvious that this new pic has absolutely NO clues in it whatsoever. There's nothing up for interpretation. Knowing this you gotta ask yourself "why would they release another picture with nothing to help us progress in the game? Its becuase there is no game ! This is just a teaser page that serves as an extension of the teaser trailer. They will keep feeding us pics of the attack little by little in chronological order up until the release of the movie. I'm guessing the last picture to be put on the site before it comes out will be a shot right before the big reveal of the mystery creature. And of course, to see the monster, you gotta see the movie. I'm gonna need one more "no help" pic to confirm what I already suspect. I'm done digin' until then. Now...that ethan haas game sounds like fun. Guess I'ma have to pop my ARG cherry with that one.


Feel free, but your analysis does have a hole or three in it. One of the big ones is that they're not releasing the pictures in chronological order. One thing for you to ponder, briefly, is that if they release a picture every three or four days, how many pictures will be on the site in six months? Think you could navigate the site, as it's constructed, like that?

I asked a question about the 1-18-08 site a page or so back. Noodle it over and tell me what you come up with.
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 		Re: A thorough Examination
Kayberry wrote:
Remember that this is supposed to be nighttime, and to have so much smoke in the air that you could not see more than a few feet through it would make everything more darkened, unless the light source was behind the camera, which it is not.But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.


Actually, it's been my experience that smoke makes lights brighter. They use it in stage lighting to give the lights a way to show up. LIght passing through darkness results only in a spot of light on the other side. Light passing through smoke, however, makes the light visible as it passes through the smoke. Pull up any concert video on YouTube, and you'll see what I mean.

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 		Re: A thorough Examination
Rob1855 wrote:
Actually, it's been my experience that smoke makes lights brighter. They use it in stage lighting to give the lights a way to show up. LIght passing through darkness results only in a spot of light on the other side. Light passing through smoke, however, makes the light visible as it passes through the smoke. Pull up any concert video on YouTube, and you'll see what I mean.


Or remember how well you could see driving through a fogbank or a snowstorm with your high-beams on. The particles diffuse and reflect the light, brightening the area, but reducing the range of the beam.
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 		Re: A thorough Examination
Rob1855 wrote:
Kayberry wrote:
Remember that this is supposed to be nighttime, and to have so much smoke in the air that you could not see more than a few feet through it would make everything more darkened, unless the light source was behind the camera, which it is not.But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.


Actually, it's been my experience that smoke makes lights brighter. They use it in stage lighting to give the lights a way to show up. LIght passing through darkness results only in a spot of light on the other side. Light passing through smoke, however, makes the light visible as it passes through the smoke. Pull up any concert video on YouTube, and you'll see what I mean.


bingo, Rob.

also, there is a light source behind the camera. if there wasn't, the light from behind the people in the picture would cause their faces to fall in shadow.

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 		Re: A thorough Examination
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Actually, it's been my experience that smoke makes lights brighter. They use it in stage lighting to give the lights a way to show up. LIght passing through darkness results only in a spot of light on the other side. Light passing through smoke, however, makes the light visible as it passes through the smoke. Pull up any concert video on YouTube, and you'll see what I mean.


Okay, I'll try to describe it a different way: Pretend you're in the middle of a big billowing cloud in an airplane. The cloud may look white from the outside, since all of the light is being reflected outward. But, if your pilot for some reason flies inside of a cloud, everything gets really dark. It's the same for any amount of heavy particulate in the air - if you can't see very far into it, it's going to block most of the light from passing through it, making it darker. The only reason it looks light is because light strikes it.

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also, there is a light source behind the camera. if there wasn't, the light from behind the people in the picture would cause their faces to fall in shadow.


The light source behind the camera isn't as intense as the one behind the women in that picture. Objects can cast multiple shadows, but lights will always lessen shadows they fall on. There's a 9-11 video somewheres of all of the soot falling, where these people shelter inside of a building with a glass windowed door - and you clearly see the effect of the particulate in the air as everything outside becomes completely invisible and in darkness in broad daylight.

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