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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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Re: Notes?

mydavegabicycle wrote:
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Something just hit me. forgive me if it's been suggested before but I'm working really hectic hours and reading all these pages takes a lot of time. BY the time I finished reading all this i would forget my idea. LOL.


What if the slusho music is a code? a mathmatical code or encryption, and 6 is the key?

this sort of thing has been done during war time to hide sensitive information in plain sight I wish I could find an example, but if anyone here really has an ear for music, notes ect.? then maybe someone with a good eye for codes and patterns code can try to read it.


Hehe, anyone want to figure out what notes are playing? It's pretty damn repetitive. Should we expect Abrams to assume we have some sort of perfect pitch? Wink. I'm supposing the main melody. Also, the music did change slightly didn't it?

Sort of reminds me of that Lost episode and the keypad. Not much of a Lost fan but I just recall that Smile.
PLEASE someone translate that tune into Notation or ACDG!!!

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Iamthequestion wrote:
Something just hit me. forgive me if it's been suggested before but I'm working really hectic hours and reading all these pages takes a lot of time. BY the time I finished reading all this i would forget my idea. LOL.


What if the slusho music is a code? a mathmatical code or encryption, and 6 is the key?

this sort of thing has been done during war time to hide sensitive information in plain sight I wish I could find an example, but if anyone here really has an ear for music, notes ect.? then maybe someone with a good eye for codes and patterns code can try to read it.

I'm beginning to think slusho zoom is just their way of telling us to take a closer look at the page.


anyone watch smallville? remember when the kryptonian letters were on the anchient page, and it said to look deeper, so clark began to xray the page and found a map inside it.

perhaps something similar?



If you listen to the music, the notes in the theme match the pattern of cups that come before the phrase "You Can't Drink Just Six". I think it might be morse code related, but it would be helpful if the musical notes had a distinct pattern. It shouldn't be that hard to find out, but would be easier to parse it out if someone could access that part of the swf file...

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Christianity is just as much a religion as any other. The same argument can be said for Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, or Judaism.[/quote]

Not an informed argument. Honest, there's a very large difference between Catholics, Pentecostals, AME, and Baptists. Ask a minister from a church of each one how you get into Heaven. I guarantee you will get four different answers.

The overall point being that there is a broad set of common cultural memes when it comes to the Apocalypse. Those memes break down when you start narrowing them down. What is familiar to one is likely not familiar to another.
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SkippySkip wrote:


If you listen to the music, the notes in the theme match the pattern of cups that come before the phrase "You Can't Drink Just Six". I think it might be morse code related, but it would be helpful if the musical notes had a distinct pattern. It shouldn't be that hard to find out, but would be easier to parse it out if someone could access that part of the swf file...


Hokay, I'll give it a swing. I don't have my notation program up right now, nor is my keyboard handy. I'm doing this with a pitch pipe and my ear. Bear with me.

It's basically a one-measure theme, in 4/4 rhythm .

I'm going to do it in two measures, because it's easier. Still 4/4 rhythm.

The rhythm is pretty easy.

1 AND 2 (rest) 4 / 1- AND 3 and 4
(The second 1 hangs over into beat two for a half-beat.)

I'm looking for my pitch pipe, but I can say that the theme doesn't appear to start on the tonic. It begins on a third. The three-note bass actually carries the tonic on the first note. The second voice at the beginning is in octaves with the theme. No real key changes, so it stays on the I chord throughout (though there are accidentals in the harmony line, it appears, which might mean some change to a secondary dominant briefly).

EDIT: Okay. It's in C-Major (no flats, no sharps). The notes are

E,C,E G, G (octave higher), F,G,A,F

Sing it in solfegge: Mi, Do, Mi, Sol, Sol, Fa, Sol, La, Fa.
If you want to assign the notes their scale degrees: 3,1,3,5,5,4,5,6,4

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Also... Intervals?

JimmieBJr wrote:
SkippySkip wrote:


If you listen to the music, the notes in the theme match the pattern of cups that come before the phrase "You Can't Drink Just Six". I think it might be morse code related, but it would be helpful if the musical notes had a distinct pattern. It shouldn't be that hard to find out, but would be easier to parse it out if someone could access that part of the swf file...


Hokay, I'll give it a swing. I don't have my notation program up right now, nor is my keyboard handy. I'm doing this with a pitch pipe and my ear. Bear with me.

It's basically a one-measure theme, in 4/4 rhythm.

(More to come)


Might as well write out the intervals while you're at it Razz.

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It looks like the Bad Robot logo. Abrams' production company.

agreed
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The top "bouncy" voice plays the following notes (devoid of rhythm):

E,C,E,G,G,F,G,A,C


I don't think is significant in this way... Will probe some more...
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know what this thread is starting to remind me of?


"My Alphabits are talking to me! They're saying, 'ooooooooooo'!"

"Those are Cheerios."

p.s. Voltron for another shot.

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Cloverfield thread at frightstuff.com

The website that announced the whole comicon thing:

First post: July 8th.

clownnation wrote:

I just saw the "cloverfield" teaser when i went and saw Transformers. All I can say Ken, is WHOA! Its amazing how that teaser hooked me and I have no idea what the movie is about, who ever put that teaser together is brilliant! There is a HUGE internet buzz about it now!


fxdude wrote:

Yes it will be interesting.. did you see the Statue Of Liberty head fly down the street?, we shot all that at Paramounts backlot, New York Street,
most people think we are shooting it with a handy cam, but NO we are using the state of the art DVD Panavision camera.

Also the press is stating that it is shooting now in New York... WRONG AGAIN media people .. what a Shocked

Ken Wink



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hehe...they thought statue of liberty...that's New York. isn't it fun though, when you can keep on fooling people that way?
I mean...that's just another shade of movie magic, don't you think? Very Happy

clownnation wrote:

Yes I did see the Statue of Liberty's head. That wasnt CG? It really does look like a handy cam, GREAT EFFECTS! I usually dont like trailers these days, they give away the entire movie, but this trailer told me very little and hooked me right in!

fxdude wrote:

Some of it was CG the rest mechanical, as the head hits the ground we yanked the cars out of the way shook the buildings, broke the glass, created sparks, anything the CG item hits we have to destroy. a lot of work..
"Godzilla meets Escape from New York" Cool


That's basically it. I wanna sniff around to see if there's any other mention of it there.
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O_o

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Vader wrote:
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Ok, REALLY?? Rolling Eyes

This thread is 174 pages long, have some sense and don't post if you do not have anything to post... help keep the thread as readable as humanly possible for a thread this size...

This is a forum, not a chatroom, you can go to #slusho on irc.chat-solution.org if chat is what you want.
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Actually i was posting some info that the above guy just posted so i removed it, didn't want to leave it blank so i left a O_o.

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Update to Revelations Possibilities
Don't rule it out, I think Abrams is trying to find a way to mention ALL known 'Major' Religions

Ok, upon request (due to the fact that my first post got a boatload of replies and pretty much took over the larger thread), I am branching and consolidating my findings. These are not my opinions, mostly just search facts.


---Ok this took a few hours of snooping around, but I have reasons to believe (though this would not work well with slusho unless he did that for all his Bad Robot advertising) that this may be a Revelations type movie as well, and here's why:

I searched and searched thru the Mystery Street thing but to no avail. Alpha Kappa Mu and Mystery st both have New Orleans relations, but I dead ended there. Then someone here posted something about revelations 18:8 so I went for a read. I found this there:

'And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!'

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=5379618

Which led me to 1:18
'I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.'

While browsing I found this one too:
And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY (as in Mystery St???), BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

(Now if you have read Revelations you know that Babylon is 'the great city that falls' which is supposed to be the world's business/sin hub...not NYC u say? lol)

NOW - I went back and searched ABZ 3293, tried everything. I tried history of the date 3/2/1993 and even 3/2/1893, and even 3293 BC and found this:

Scroll down to ABZ it is an abbreviation that has to do with a man named Rykle Borger who coincidentally wrote a book and was a leading researcher in guess what? BABYLONIAN LINGUAL DECIPHERING!!!(Assyriologist)

http://cdli.ucla.edu:16080/wiki/index.php/Abbreviations_for_Assyriology

His book was called 'Assyrisch-babylonische Zeichenliste' (ABZ) Guess when it was friggin last published? '63... Anyone notice that it was 63 degrees in the news flash in the trailer? 63 degrees in NYC in Jan at midnight??? I think not.

At this point, I nearly shat myself, and began hunting deep into the world of translation of babylon scripts. I found out that AKM in greek can also be Aleph-Kaph-Mem in Hebrew(lost link, check Wiki). Aleph-kaph-mem when googled led me to the definition 'Angel'...


Upon more searching for the 3293 part I found this:
Estimated Death Year of Adam (from Genesis and of Adam and Eve fame) to be 3293 BC...

http://genealogy.wingetsolutions.com/tree/


HMMMMMMMMM.........

Now, throw in the fact that we have been bombarded with the number 6 (mark of the beast)...


Extra Facts:

-The Beast is synonymous with the Abyss (ABZ = Abyss also? prolly not but hey I've been up a few extra hours now so sorry)

-People claim that someone could have drawn in the 'devilish' looking silhouette in the girls' hair, very true - but the hair thing is overdone so moving on...

-I have to sleep. I'm sure there's more links I forgot to add but this is long enough as it is.


Good Luck
---Well, I am still up - and thanks.

I know there is that whole Pokemon/Nintendo guy being associated with slusho.jp's whois and that they also made a movie about that cthulu/godzilla pokemon monster and when released in the US was under the title 'Yog: some subtitle'.

And I guess Yog has a Lovecraft connection which goes back to Cthulu. It's all really too much, and tbh - these clues fight each others validity most of the time.

And that most likely means that we will be more interested in our own crazy fun-filled theories than what this probably ends up being, lol.

Oh well, I have had fun in this (my first ever) ARG/anything on the internet that isnt sports or a video game or poker/sleuthing session.


---Thanks for the 360 thing, kept me up another hour, lol.

If it is revelations we're looking at here, I found these references to how 360 fits in the bible and how the biblical year was 360 days.

http://www.360calendar.com/index.htm#Part%20One
and
http://www.harvardhouse.com/prophetictech/new/numerology/360.htm

Then, becuz I am so stuck on this angle now (watch it turn out to be some original Return of the Greek Titans or something) I seem to see either an angel dangling something in the curtain. While I was visiting that first site up there ^, I also stumbled upon this.

http://www.bible-codes.org/SARS_bible_code-SARS-1.htm

It's the biblical moth code. (Maybe this is rampage meets the bible? Or mothra??? jk)


---"The devil is not, then, a "second principle" next to God, and he cannot overcome God, but he can separate man from God because he exists as a parasite of man's unfaithfulness and embodies human alienation."


---Anyways - to add to the a possible revelations connection. The number 6 is widely used ad the slogan says YOU CANT EAT JUST 6. Which means you have to have at LEAST SEVEN...anyone know what 7 means in the bible?? EVERYTHING godly.

Add that a previous poster quoted the devil being called Parasite in the bible.

And I have recently found a new trail regarding bible info that may shock some even more.

Stay tuned, this monster (me) has risen again.

---More numbers codes for all y'all.

The Aleph-Kaph-Mem (AKM) also has a numberical meaning. In the ancient greek tables:

A = 1
K = 20
M = 40

That adds up to 61. The NAME codes in the bible found here:

http://www.bible-codes.org/Names-Bible-Prophecy-Code.htm

Will show you that 61 is significant in the bible. Not only do all the first 61 names from Adam to Jesus (#60 being jesus and number 61 being church) ALL add up to 61 per this bible code that has been around forever.

More to come


---I believe I have also gone too far.


---More Biblical Googling...

The Internet friendly Bible Ace was released in 2004...

ROFL, sorry I found it and had to let you know.

(Again, just posting findings - so that the think-tank can chew em up. It's not my opinions just search findings. It's up to you whether you swallow it or spit it out.

---Guess what happened in 2004?

Masta Ace, a rapper born in Brooklyn NY, released an album called A Long Hot Summer.

Track #21 is called.....

Revelations!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Long_Hot_Summer




---More biblical searching shows:

I was looking into the spraypainted 'dead' thing on the back of the street sign in the trailer near the end and its possible correlation to the revelations theory.

Dead lead me to dead sea scrolls which I thought was a stretch. But when I searched Dead Sea I found See Also Dead Sea RIFT!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea

Dead and Rift are written in the trailor in graffiti. And they're eating seafood? A stretch I know, I know…


---If that 9 is really hidden in the girls shirt like i have read then I realized that:

1+18+08 = 27. 2+7 = 9.

or

1+1+8+0+8 = 18. 1+8 = 9.


---In reference to all the Buddha/Hindu ideas, I think its showing more than one religious symbol for the reason of the clue trail now.

I guess Albert Pike was listed in the WhoIs for 1-18-08.com He was a reknowned satanist and a 33 degree (there is is again degrees lke the temp and the 360 theory) from a book he wrote I found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Pike

I will look more into the Pike thing as the registry info seems to have changed. WHen I was there I could have sworn is was registered under a Henry Kelvin (which I read was two Lost characters names combined), but now godaddy is not giving me the name at all anymore...hmmm

But if it was under an Albert Pike as many have said that further leads us down the revelations or religious path period.


---Below are literal straight forward quotes by Albert Pike that supporters of conspiracies sometimes cite in support that Pike was indeed a Luciferian (all are from his book Morals and Dogma[1][2]):

"Every Masonic Lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion." Morals and Dogma, p.213
"LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darknesss! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!" p.321
...
"Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled, to conceal the truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it. Truth is not for those who are unworthy or unable to receive it, or would pervert it."
...
"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry ... It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whose attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain."


That's all I got so far…What do you think? Most of this was done entirely on my own and I watched all of my ideas spread like wildfire in some people's heads. Any thoughts?

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Anways - to add to the a possibl revelations connection. The number 6 is widely used ad the slogan says YOU CANT EAT JUST 6. Which means you have to have at LEAST SEVEN...anyone know what 7 means in the bible?? EVERYTHING godly.


This is an illustration of my point. This is facutally valid:

The number 6 is widely used ad the slogan says YOU CANT EAT JUST 6. Which means you have to have at LEAST SEVEN.

This is where it goes off track:

anyone know what 7 means in the bible??

Has nothing to do with anything. The number has all kinds of relevance to different things...but to just assume without evidence it's a biblical reference is where this goes off track. Why not continue with the logical flow and suggest "6" is a key to solving whatever the puzzle is, or look for other relevance within the story, or the music - are only 6 notes being played over and over? etc

At any rate, I apologize for not thinking....

Well I *was* thinking but in terms of dead enders and time wasters in seeking religious implications and that was the point I was attempting to make, and the incidental that why is it that not only are people running off looking for religious connotations, but specifically western religion, as opposed to one more fitting to the elements at all. Again, I wasn't attacking people for being religious either way. It's an observation of what's been going on with it.

If I suggest that the childlike quality of slusho is very similar to clowns, and then proceed to follow a very logical, lucid, flowering path from clowns to John Wayne Gacey, only to come back and present my very clear findings of a real connection from clowns to Gacey, and then on top of it suggest this very much hints/reeks/proves that 1-18 has GOT to be about serial killers, I'd get laughed out of town. I might've done hella research from clowns to Gacey, but the point I would be missing is that the ORIGINAL JUMP OFF POINT is invalid - it would be a case of my own subjective association to clowns that led me off on the goosechase and NOT any actual elements on the slusho site.

This is what's going on with the religious angle. Religious people have an overwhelming tendency to see religious implications in everything, and while you can make a huge case full of valid connections about all the religious associations, the point that is missed is that THERE ARE NONE being presented to begin with in either 1-18 or slusho.

That's all I'm saying. And I heartily apologize for spawning a dozen page debate on religion. Such as it was.

What I should have known before I hit send, or at least stopped to bring it actively conscious would it would spawn another useless page surge for an impromptu religious debate. Which is kinda my point behind 157 pages that have accomplished nothing.

Anyway, lesson learned. Won't happen again.



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Re: Update to Revelations Possibilities
Don't rule it out, I think Abrams is trying to find a way to mention ALL known 'Major' Religions

Tkar wrote:

Now, throw in the fact that we have been bombarded with the number 6 (mark of the beast)...


And I guess Yog has a Lovecraft connection which goes back to Cthulu.

---Anyways - to add to the a possible revelations connection. The number 6 is widely used ad the slogan says YOU CANT EAT JUST 6. Which means you have to have at LEAST SEVEN...anyone know what 7 means in the bible?? EVERYTHING godly.

Add that a previous poster quoted the devil being called Parasite in the bible.


I have to correct a few factual errors here.

First, 6 is not the number of the beast. The Bible explicitly named the number of the Beast as "six hundred, threescore, and six"

Second, the Lovecraftian entity is not called Yog. It's called Yog Sothoth. Nowhere does Lovecraft ever shorten the name to Yog.

Third, the number 7 in the Bible does not mean "everything godly". It symbolizes completeness or perfection. It is true that the number is often used in combination with God, but that's because the Bible says that God is perfect. But God and completeness/perfection are two separate concepts. If it could be said that God have any number to represent Him in the Bible, it would be 3, but that's not even done.

I don't know of any Bible verse that calls the Devil a parasite. I believe the post to which you were referring was off.
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