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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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robotkarateman
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JimmieBJr wrote:
Rampant crazy-wild spec has consumed about 3/4 of this thread, though.


OMG XD XD I JUST FIGRED IT OUT!!!!!!ONE!!!

JAN 18 2008 IS THE LAST DAY OF MAC WORLD!!!! OMG!!! MEBBE TH EMONSTER IS SOME KIND OF TELEKINETIC GIANT IPOD@!!!!@!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:28 pm
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rhialto wrote:
archer wrote:
Ok type this trekmovie.com/category/1-18-08cloverfield into google then

go down to the 13th February and the previous article and see how

many times cloverfield is mentioned


Ah, okay. I think we have a misunderstanding. Moriarty isn't claiming he was the first to report that there was a movie called that, just that he was the first to report accurately what it was gonna be.

Sorry about that.


Who is to say the AINT IT COOL site is credible to begin with?

I have no experience with the site, but it's not uncommon for someone to get their hands on a movie pre-release. This movie may possibly have the previews on it. So, someone watched the previews and opened their mouth, and it gets around to someone who is going to try to claim it as being an inside source.

I have watched the preview frame-by-frame. I have watched it forwards, backwards, sections of it over and over again. I have seen nothing that suggests an actual huge "monster" is the thing causing the explosions and such. There's 2 massive roars, a gigantic explosion, and the Statue's head thrown through the city.

I've followed a lot of this hype for the last week. I've been on dozens of different websites, followed false leads, gone off on a complete other tangent before coming back on path.

Personally though, I have never seen a "monster" movie with a gigantic explosion that sends exploding shrapnel into the air. But there's a first for everything.

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for the last time

robotkarateman wrote:
JimmieBJr wrote:
Rampant crazy-wild spec has consumed about 3/4 of this thread, though.


OMG XD XD I JUST FIGRED IT OUT!!!!!!ONE!!!

JAN 18 2008 IS THE LAST DAY OF MAC WORLD!!!! OMG!!! MEBBE TH EMONSTER IS SOME KIND OF TELEKINETIC GIANT IPOD@!!!!@!


omg for the last time the movie is about when pikachu gets big and has to fight a wild charizard then mewtwo comes in and uses psychic to launch the sol head at pikachu but he dodge it and charizard uses flamethrower or overheat dang

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No, iPhone. The "Parasite" and all of the destruction is a metaphor for how Apple's new gadget will infect society and destroy it from within, with its wireless data plan and optional Statue of Liberty launcher.

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katsushiro
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NEW and I think Important

Hey guys. This is my second forum post ever. Noone ever responded to my first. It's a new angle on rejection for me. Anyway, for ome reason I find myself yearning for the approval of a bunch of people I don't know and some I wouldn't want to (cough-archer-cough).

I think I have 2 relevant important previously unmentioned thing for you.

1. While the guy is saying IT'S ALIVE IT'S HUGE, someone is saying at the same time .......SEWER.... I can't make it out, it's right underneath IT'S ALIVE IT'S HUGE. I'm serious here. I know you've listened to it a million times but throw on some good headphones and listen again. You'll hear it.

2. archer sucks

p.s. someone please give me a courtesy reply of some sort. I've been reading for hundreds of posts now, I think I deserve it.

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Rock On katsushiro


I would wave but there's not one. Razz

I haven't been able to hear that or the other thing about myth or whatever it was....so can't really be much help. Anyway, welcome to UF...jump on in.

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Re: NEW and I think Important

katsushiro wrote:
Hey guys. This is my second forum post ever. Noone ever responded to my first. It's a new angle on rejection for me. Anyway, for ome reason I find myself yearning for the approval of a bunch of people I don't know and some I wouldn't want to (cough-archer-cough).

I think I have 2 relevant important previously unmentioned thing for you.

1. While the guy is saying IT'S ALIVE IT'S HUGE, someone is saying at the same time .......SEWER.... I can't make it out, it's right underneath IT'S ALIVE IT'S HUGE. I'm serious here. I know you've listened to it a million times but throw on some good headphones and listen again. You'll hear it.

2. archer sucks

p.s. someone please give me a courtesy reply of some sort. I've been reading for hundreds of posts now, I think I deserve it.



Hey katsushiro! Laughing

I really wish we had like CIA sound stripper things where we could disect the sounds one by one!

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Re: NEW and I think Important

katsushiro wrote:
Hey guys. This is my second forum post ever. Noone ever responded to my first. It's a new angle on rejection for me. Anyway, for ome reason I find myself yearning for the approval of a bunch of people I don't know and some I wouldn't want to (cough-archer-cough).

I think I have 2 relevant important previously unmentioned thing for you.

1. While the guy is saying IT'S ALIVE IT'S HUGE, someone is saying at the same time .......SEWER.... I can't make it out, it's right underneath IT'S ALIVE IT'S HUGE. I'm serious here. I know you've listened to it a million times but throw on some good headphones and listen again. You'll hear it.

2. archer sucks

p.s. someone please give me a courtesy reply of some sort. I've been reading for hundreds of posts now, I think I deserve it.


/hi5

I'll give it a listen.

Also, this thread is comprised of MOSTLY fun fact finders, regardless of how new or fresh the info, it never hurts to hear them again sometimes Smile

Don't let people that bash your ideas whilst NOT GIVING NEW ONES, cramp ur style either

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Work for Abrams much?


What exactly does that mean?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:00 am
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katsushiro
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CORRECTION

CORRECTION. It's ....SUBWAY.... not ...sewer...

It's at 1:22.70ish, give or take a tenth of a second. I you listen you'l hear it. Someone is saying something about the subway as the guy is saying "i saw it..."
I think this may be worth looking at since we have been formally pointed in this direction, haven't we?

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Also from Lovecraft:

Quote:
The next January gossips were mildly interested in the fact that 'Lavinny's black brat' had commenced to talk,


From "The Dunwich Horror"

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Anonymous wrote:
Who is to say the AINT IT COOL site is credible to begin with?

I've known the guys who run AICN for the last ten years.

They're credible.

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I've been thinking about the trailer some more, since we have no real leads to go on. Just thinking about things like how the statue of liberty's head makes it to 401 broadway. We can assume that it's carried near to there and then thrown, but there's another way, which would make the monster's true size and strength greater than even the folks at TOHO could conceive.

Start at Liberty Island, where Mister Parasite Monster is seriously pissed about dethawing from some frozen slurpee goo or something. So you're roaring and looking for something to take out your anger on before starting a rampage of destruction through a highly populated metropolitan area. And there's the statue of liberty.

So, the monster rips the entire statue off of its base, and throws it bottom-first towards the lower east side. The statue is bottom-heavy, so it will follow a ballistics trajectory bottom-first. It flies about 3.2 miles northeastward until it lands and hits the west side of a large building approximately at Williams Street and Ann Street; the sudden stopping force of the body and inertia and centrifugal forces within the head shear it off of the body, and giving it a high spin. The head also crashes into the side of the same building, but because of its lesser mass it does less damage to the building face and richochets off the side at the reverse angle it hit at with a new trajectory that sends it careening towards 401 Broadway, crashes into the side of that building which has magical exploding properties, richochets with the same reverse angle that puts it landing a few blocks down on Broadway, then magically teleports to Orchard Street in the last few frames.

Addititionally, and based on pure speculation, the site of the explosion that occurs in the trailer is most likely in the old World Trade Center location. I base this off of the estimated position of the building Rob was on top of, assuming he exits the same building at the end of the trailer; on the buildings immediately surrounding the explosion; and the ability to have shot an explosive projectile from near Liberty Island without other buildings obstructing the shot. Some may believe I'm trying to prove something by placing the explosion here, some might believe Abrams is trying to prove something. I think it's more fortunate that an explosion would occur here rather than anywhere else in the city, since the loss of life and property would be significantly less in this case.

Here's a quick image I threw together to demonstrate what is explained above.

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Kayberry wrote:
I've been thinking about the trailer some more, since we have no real leads to go on. Just thinking about things like how the statue of liberty's head makes it to 401 broadway. We can assume that it's carried near to there and then thrown, but there's another way, which would make the monster's true size and strength greater than even the folks at TOHO could conceive.

Start at Liberty Island, where Mister Parasite Monster is seriously pissed about dethawing from some frozen slurpee goo or something. So you're roaring and looking for something to take out your anger on before starting a rampage of destruction through a highly populated metropolitan area. And there's the statue of liberty.

So, the monster rips the entire statue off of its base, and throws it bottom-first towards the lower east side. The statue is bottom-heavy, so it will follow a ballistics trajectory bottom-first. It flies about 3.2 miles northeastward until it lands and hits the west side of a large building approximately at Williams Street and Ann Street; the sudden stopping force of the body and inertia and centrifugal forces within the head shear it off of the body, and giving it a high spin. The head also crashes into the side of the same building, but because of its lesser mass it does less damage to the building face and richochets off the side at the reverse angle it hit at with a new trajectory that sends it careening towards 401 Broadway, crashes into the side of that building which has magical exploding properties, richochets with the same reverse angle that puts it landing a few blocks down on Broadway, then magically teleports to Orchard Street in the last few frames.

Addititionally, and based on pure speculation, the site of the explosion that occurs in the trailer is most likely in the old World Trade Center location. I base this off of the estimated position of the building Rob was on top of, assuming he exits the same building at the end of the trailer; on the buildings immediately surrounding the explosion; and the ability to have shot an explosive projectile from near Liberty Island without other buildings obstructing the shot. Some may believe I'm trying to prove something by placing the explosion here, some might believe Abrams is trying to prove something. I think it's more fortunate that an explosion would occur here rather than anywhere else in the city, since the loss of life and property would be significantly less in this case.

Here's a quick image I threw together to demonstrate what is explained above.

That seems to be the general consensus.

I believe this suggests three possible hypothesis.
(1) The creature is VERY large.
(2) The creature is very fast.
(3) There is more than one creature.

Or, of course, the fourth possibility:
The explosion occurrs in the best possible spot -- skyline, wise -- for filming at the location they ended up shooting the rooftop scene, and taking the head off the statute was a key visual in the script.
... i.e., nobody from continuity thought this thing all the way through.

Personally, I'm sticking with IV.

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Again Lovecraft:

Quote:
On May Eve of 1915 there were tremors which even the Aylesbury people felt, whilst the following Hallowe'en produced an underground rumbling queerly synchronized with bursts of flame - 'them witch Whateleys' doin's' - from the summit of Sentinel Hill.


From "The Dunwich Horror"

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