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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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Nighthawk
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 		My opinion is that I think we have clues to proceed; we just don't know what to do with them yet.

Reasonably concrete conclusions:

- "Slusho.jp" is involved.

- I have reason to believe that the number 163 (or some permutation of it) is definitely involved; it appears definitively in two places (trailer and the Slusho site) without any voodoo mathematical equation.

Anything else you've heard up to now, from a religious interpretation of the Slusho site to what some theme park carnie says about the movie, is pure speculation. We have a million theories here; none of them proven.

But I'm convinced something's out there. Perhaps it's meant to be this difficult. Perhaps we're still missing a piece (or pieces). Or perhaps it's staring us dead in the face, yelling "Hey! Over here, idiot!", but we're too busy trying to figure out how Voltron got to New York in the first place...

Keep knocking, people. Something's bound to echo.

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and what if it was so big, it walked right up to the statue, reached down and tore off its head, then roared a mighty earhtquake producing roar, and tossed it like a freaking softball, with one hand

what if our creature was THAT big, that it could hold the head of the MS Liberty in the palm of one hand. would you believe then that it could toss her two miles into manhattan from wence she stands?


What I was trying to describe is that a creature of that size simply can't go unnoticed, even in New York. Ever been there? The city is never dark, as far as I can remember (I've wondered myself why, when they're on the roof, the area around them is too dark) and it's got light all over the place pretty much at any time of day. A sixty story high creature would be floodlit the second it appeared, and would be visible as far as Jersey.

I'm just surprised that, as soon as the creature appears, we don't hear the entire city of New York collectively scream "HOLY S***!!!".

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 		 ...in different area codes.
... um, actually, postal codes. I'm trying to see if any legit Rob and/or friends sites exist on myspace/facebook/etc. Anyone know the postal code of his apartment?

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Nighthawk wrote:
My opinion is that I think we have clues to proceed; we just don't know what to do with them yet.

Reasonably concrete conclusions:

- "Slusho.jp" is involved.

- I have reason to believe that the number 163 (or some permutation of it) is definitely involved; it appears definitively in two places (trailer and the Slusho site) without any voodoo mathematical equation.

Anything else you've heard up to now, from a religious interpretation of the Slusho site to what some theme park carnie says about the movie, is pure speculation. We have a million theories here; none of them proven.

But I'm convinced something's out there. Perhaps it's meant to be this difficult. Perhaps we're still missing a piece (or pieces). Or perhaps it's staring us dead in the face, yelling "Hey! Over here, idiot!", but we're too busy trying to figure out how Voltron got to New York in the first place...

Keep knocking, people. Something's bound to echo.

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and what if it was so big, it walked right up to the statue, reached down and tore off its head, then roared a mighty earhtquake producing roar, and tossed it like a freaking softball, with one hand

what if our creature was THAT big, that it could hold the head of the MS Liberty in the palm of one hand. would you believe then that it could toss her two miles into manhattan from wence she stands?


What I was trying to describe is that a creature of that size simply can't go unnoticed, even in New York. Ever been there? The city is never dark, as far as I can remember (I've wondered myself why, when they're on the roof, the area around them is too dark) and it's got light all over the place pretty much at any time of day. A sixty story high creature would be floodlit the second it appeared, and would be visible as far as Jersey.

I'm just surprised that, as soon as the creature appears, we don't hear the entire city of New York collectively scream "HOLY S***!!!".


I live in NY not too far away from where the trailer took place and let me tell you something; people are freaking oblivious to everything, they got thier ipods on, yapping on their cell phones, its a pick pockets wet dream over here.

you know a few christmases ago 15 people got hit by a single bus, he didnt plow 15 random people they were all standing together, half way out into the icy street, on christmas eve doing some last minute shopping and were too freakin impatient to wait for the walk signal, they didnt notice to huge bus with the horns honking, cause he couldnt stop, the road was too slippery. if they had waited on the sidewalk it wouldnt have happened. if they had been paying attention to something other than themselves, it wouldn't have happened.

I'm pretty sure they all died.

Now ask me again if a monster that big can go unnoticed in NYC. Wink

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 		Hey guys, I'm new here, and I really didn't want to read 200 some pages of speculation, so here I am.

Anybody seen the website EthanHaasWasRight.com? Apparently its the ARG for Cloverfield, I'm on the third puzzle.

Also, I'm pretty sure its Voltron. Did you hear the guy yell "I saw it, it's a lion, it's huge?

Did anyone else notice the freaky demon in the girl's hair? I think it's definitely a clue.

Very Happy Just kidding. All that above stuff was just to get you guys riled up.
Truly though, I'm thinking that they aren't screaming "It's alive, it's huge!" because they thought it was dead. This has been gone over before, but I'll say it again.

If there's several loud noises and an earthquake followed by a tremendous explosion, nobody (except maybe those far detatched from reality) is going to assume Godzilla. They're all going to think terrorists, a freak explosion, a missle attack from a hostile country. The real shock is seeing an enormous monster (an alive monster, at that...) squishing New York.

Although I do give a lot of credit to the iceberg/meteor thing. So far, that's the most planned and thought out (and believable) approach to the whole "it used to be not alive but now it is holy crap" theory.

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 		Re: ...in different area codes.
New!! Jalepeno SLUSHO!!! wrote:
... um, actually, postal codes. I'm trying to see if any legit Rob and/or friends sites exist on myspace/facebook/etc. Anyone know the postal code of his apartment?



I tried what you are trying, there are over 500 results for rob on myspace with this zip code, that area is all lofts, so the loft in the trailer, is a block or so away from this building:

401 Broadway
New York, NY 10013


so if you begin your search now, I guess we'll hear from you in about a week? dont forget to get up and go to the bathroom once in while-- dont make my mistake.. LOL

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Thats why they invented Depends... I mean, nvm... Embarassed

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Iamthequestion wrote:
Nighthawk wrote:


What I was trying to describe is that a creature of that size simply can't go unnoticed, even in New York. Ever been there? The city is never dark, as far as I can remember (I've wondered myself why, when they're on the roof, the area around them is too dark) and it's got light all over the place pretty much at any time of day. A sixty story high creature would be floodlit the second it appeared, and would be visible as far as Jersey.

I'm just surprised that, as soon as the creature appears, we don't hear the entire city of New York collectively scream "HOLY S***!!!".


I live in NY not too far away from where the trailer took place and let me tell you something; people are freaking oblivious to everything, they got thier ipods on, yapping on their cell phones, its a pick pockets wet dream over here.

you know a few christmases ago 15 people got hit by a single bus, he didnt plow 15 random people they were all standing together, half way out into the icy street, on christmas eve doing some last minute shopping and were too freakin impatient to wait for the walk signal, they didnt notice to huge bus with the horns honking, cause he couldnt stop, the road was too slippery. if they had waited on the sidewalk it wouldnt have happened. if they had been paying attention to something other than themselves, it wouldn't have happened.

I'm pretty sure they all died.

Now ask me again if a monster that big can go unnoticed in NYC. Wink
Yup I have to agree, especially after teh 6 inch illuminous yellow bouncy balls test my mates did in Liverpool. We were on a course at the 5th floor of a building that had a window into a busy street scene half way up to the 6th.
One jackass(who made my year!) decided that he would prove his "People are Zombies" stance. He went out and bought 20 bouncy balls, each were seriously eyecatching. He took a group of us to the window and said "pick someone" Peeps were saying "no you'll injure someone throwing them at them" he insisted he wasnt going to hit someone. He threw them and guess what? A fracking 6 inch illmunous yellow thing flys right past their face, 15 foot in the air, and bounces off wall after wall NO ONE NOTICES, NOT EVEN A COP HE THREW ONE INFRONT OF!! Shocked

Weird event of the course volume 2!
One of the lads used to "answer his phone" speaking to Elvis etc..
"What the radio tower has just flew away?" type o thing. One day he answers the phone and says "what a plane just flew into the world trade centre?" Everyone is in stiches, its the best one yet! He gets offended saying dont rip the piss people are dead! The students are creasing up, a couple of minutes later "What the other tower? Guys they think its terrorism!" after a while I pip up with "Why go after a place like that? surely you would try for the Pentagon or White-House!" less than 2 minutes after that he answers the phone again "What they just took out the Pentagon?" The teacher got annoyed with him.
"Lets go down the pub around the corner they will put SkyNews on and we will see how much of a bs artist you are!" Well we got into the pub and got the woman to change channel and sure enough LIVE footage of the towers, I pointed out one corner "Thats gonna fall right there" one of the lads says its impossible, just as he goes to say more the fraggin corner I pointed out gives and the first tower goes..

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 		I'd just like to point out that the shots from the party (the roof specifically) were shot from Brooklyn or southwest Queens.
Also, since I have Thursday off, a bike and a working knowledge of NYC's streets, neighborhoods, if there are any leads any folks would like checked out, let me know (but don't let my girlfriend know Wink ). I'm already planning to head to the area around 401 Broadway to see if anything looks familiar (thank you video ipod)

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Iamthequestion wrote:
Nighthawk wrote:
DeadbyDawn wrote:
How BIG would that creature HAVE TO BE???


Big enough to climb up a 300' statue and remove its head. Then take the head, which is about the size and weight of an H2, and throw it three miles. Wink

Personally I think it's one big sea monster that just saw poor Ms. Liberty and decided to play Tee-ball.


and what if it was so big, it walked right up to the statue, reached down and tore off its head, then roared a mighty earhtquake producing roar, and tossed it like a freaking softball, with one hand

what if our creature was THAT big, that it could hold the head of the MS Liberty in the palm of one hand. would you believe then that it could toss her two miles into manhattan from wence she stands?


just how fast would the beasty have to toss SOL's head, to hit a building 3.5 miles away, in nothing more than a handful of seconds?

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officespacejk wrote:
Iamthequestion wrote:
Nighthawk wrote:
DeadbyDawn wrote:
How BIG would that creature HAVE TO BE???


Big enough to climb up a 300' statue and remove its head. Then take the head, which is about the size and weight of an H2, and throw it three miles. Wink

Personally I think it's one big sea monster that just saw poor Ms. Liberty and decided to play Tee-ball.


and what if it was so big, it walked right up to the statue, reached down and tore off its head, then roared a mighty earhtquake producing roar, and tossed it like a freaking softball, with one hand

what if our creature was THAT big, that it could hold the head of the MS Liberty in the palm of one hand. would you believe then that it could toss her two miles into manhattan from wence she stands?


just how fast would the beasty have to toss SOL's head, to hit a building 3.5 miles away, in nothing more than a handful of seconds?


Who says it was tossed?

Maybe it was, expelled, re-gurgitated... or something to that effect.

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Anonymous wrote:
I'd just like to point out that the shots from the party (the roof specifically) were shot from Brooklyn or southwest Queens.
Also, since I have Thursday off, a bike and a working knowledge of NYC's streets, neighborhoods, if there are any leads any folks would like checked out, let me know (but don't let my girlfriend know Wink ). I'm already planning to head to the area around 401 Broadway to see if anything looks familiar (thank you video ipod)


actually this was shot on a sound stage in Los Angeles..
but hey, if you wanna go looking for a place that doesn't exist because it's two roads meshed together for movie purposes, be our guest. Wink

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AktionT4 wrote:
officespacejk wrote:
Iamthequestion wrote:
Nighthawk wrote:
DeadbyDawn wrote:
How BIG would that creature HAVE TO BE???


Big enough to climb up a 300' statue and remove its head. Then take the head, which is about the size and weight of an H2, and throw it three miles. Wink

Personally I think it's one big sea monster that just saw poor Ms. Liberty and decided to play Tee-ball.


and what if it was so big, it walked right up to the statue, reached down and tore off its head, then roared a mighty earhtquake producing roar, and tossed it like a freaking softball, with one hand

what if our creature was THAT big, that it could hold the head of the MS Liberty in the palm of one hand. would you believe then that it could toss her two miles into manhattan from wence she stands?


just how fast would the beasty have to toss SOL's head, to hit a building 3.5 miles away, in nothing more than a handful of seconds?


Who says it was tossed?

Maybe it was, expelled, re-gurgitated... or something to that effect.


oh, it could be...could'a been ate, then tooted out w/ a bic lighter next to it to get the explosion too...but, what i meant was, depending on when you assume it was tossed, gacked, poo'd...it flew 3.5 miles in 2 to 5 seconds...if its 3.5 miles, and 3.5 seconds, thats 210 MPH, as an average speed for the entire 3.5 miles/seconds. it wasn't traveling that fast when it hit the building, so either it was chucked/poo'd from ellis island starting out at 500 MPH, or it wasn't tossed from there.

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Nighthawk wrote:

What I was trying to describe is that a creature of that size simply can't go unnoticed, even in New York. Ever been there? The city is never dark, as far as I can remember (I've wondered myself why, when they're on the roof, the area around them is too dark) and it's got light all over the place pretty much at any time of day. A sixty story high creature would be floodlit the second it appeared, and would be visible as far as Jersey.

I'm just surprised that, as soon as the creature appears, we don't hear the entire city of New York collectively scream "HOLY S***!!!".


Unless the monster is... INVISIBLE?

Yeah, I got nothin. What if there was some kind of blackout? Not mentioned in the news, though... I'm thinking the monster came from the sky or the ground, and first made itself visible with the 'splosion.

Maybe the meteor impact theory is plausible? But that would cancel out the first roar, before the explosion.

Our possibilities right now are

a) Came from underground, in lieu of "War of the Worlds",

b) Crawled out of the ocean onto land, maybe an amphibious monster like Godzilla, or

c) Exited out of a large building. Man-made?

Even so, we have several possibilities for the nature of the "monster".

1) It came from space (War of the Worlds, The Thing, Godzilla 2000 (Orga))

2) It awoke from slumber (Reign of Fire, etc.)

3) It was unintentionally created by man via nuclear blast or chemical event (Godzilla, Gamera)

4) It was intentionally created by man with unintented results, "playing god" (think of any movie where the monster "escapes from the lab/testing facility)

5) It's a an apocalyptic monster with roots in modern day or ancient religion (highly unlikely, can also be grouped with option 2)

I threw this next one in because it belongs in a category of itself, though it is somewhat unlikely

6) It's Lovecraftian in nature, an Old God or Elder God or Ancient One... that sort of thing (The Dunwich Horror, Cthulhu, Dagon, Shadow Over Innsmouth)

I'm thinking the most likely possibilities are a) and b), with 1), 2) or 4).

Option a) goes well with 2) and could fit with 1), while option b) is far more suited for 2) and 4).

I don't mention c) because I cannot think of a building in New York that could hold such a ginormous (it's a word now, by the way) monster, so that may be unlikely. Option c) is still possible if the monster escape from a manmade structure in an area other than New York (somewhere across the ocean, perhaps) and travelled to New York, which would put it under option b).

I don't think that got us anywhere, but now we have a solid set of options to work from.

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 		Well here is something I have thought about...

There are 3 roars in the preview.

The 1st roar is accompanied by an earthquake like event and indeed that 1st roar sounds a bit like it came from underground or underwater (Sea)

Then we have the 2nd roar, and a big explosion of a building. (Land)

Then the 3rd roar and the even that follows it is the SOL head FLYING. (Air)

I think it could be 3 monsters, and somehow Rob has found out about this 'myth' being true or something.

Could be Behemoth, Leviathan, and Ziz?

Just speculating.

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