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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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fishysticks
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thePCownsYOU wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'd just like to point out that the shots from the party (the roof specifically) were shot from Brooklyn or southwest Queens.
Also, since I have Thursday off, a bike and a working knowledge of NYC's streets, neighborhoods, if there are any leads any folks would like checked out, let me know (but don't let my girlfriend know Wink ). I'm already planning to head to the area around 401 Broadway to see if anything looks familiar (thank you video ipod)


As someone completely less involved than many of you (although I'm watching your work diligently, I thought I'd throw out a couple ideas.

First: Might be worth it to check google maps new street view feature and see if we can somehow pin point where we believe the building to be. Something there might be helpful (As well as it makes sense for them to put something up for Googles filming and then take it down once the trailer was released.

Second: Right before the apartment shakes in the trailer we can clearly see Ryan Key (the lead singer of Yellowcard). Their new CD came out today and one song is actually called light up the sky. Maybe something on this album (including a possible hidden song or phrase that can only be found by rewinding the CD from the beginning of the first track) may be the "Key" to us progressing in this thing.

Just some ideas. Thanks


Again, it was taped on a SOUNDSTAGE! And not just a soundstage, but one located in LOS ANGELES, not new york.
It is not a real location.
If you read the thread, you'll note that the 'location' is a mesh of two streets that are actually a few blocks apart in real life.
There will not be anything at the 'location' in New York, because it doesn't exist, and because it was not filmed there.

Ryan Key from Yellowcard has said that it is not him in the film. This comes from a source that I can't quite remember if was confirmed or not, but it's easy to mistake one person for another- especially when there's no close up of just him to confirm it. I agree, it looks just like him, that doesn't mean it IS him.
That, and people have listened to the track backwards and forwards and found nothing.

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thePCownsYOU
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nelbot wrote:
thePCownsYOU wrote:


First: Might be worth it to check google maps new street view feature and see if we can somehow pin point where we believe the building to be. Something there might be helpful (As well as it makes sense for them to put something up for Googles filming and then take it down once the trailer was released.

(edited by nelbot to point relevant to my response)
Just some ideas. Thanks


The only trouble with that is, and this has been stated several times, the building doesn't necessarily actually exist IRL- they aren't filming on location where this building fictionally sits- it was filmed in and around LA and on sounds stages, etc...


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thePCownsYOU
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fishysticks wrote:
thePCownsYOU wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'd just like to point out that the shots from the party (the roof specifically) were shot from Brooklyn or southwest Queens.
Also, since I have Thursday off, a bike and a working knowledge of NYC's streets, neighborhoods, if there are any leads any folks would like checked out, let me know (but don't let my girlfriend know Wink ). I'm already planning to head to the area around 401 Broadway to see if anything looks familiar (thank you video ipod)


As someone completely less involved than many of you (although I'm watching your work diligently, I thought I'd throw out a couple ideas.

First: Might be worth it to check google maps new street view feature and see if we can somehow pin point where we believe the building to be. Something there might be helpful (As well as it makes sense for them to put something up for Googles filming and then take it down once the trailer was released.

Second: Right before the apartment shakes in the trailer we can clearly see Ryan Key (the lead singer of Yellowcard). Their new CD came out today and one song is actually called light up the sky. Maybe something on this album (including a possible hidden song or phrase that can only be found by rewinding the CD from the beginning of the first track) may be the "Key" to us progressing in this thing.

Just some ideas. Thanks


Again, it was taped on a SOUNDSTAGE! And not just a soundstage, but one located in LOS ANGELES, not new york.
It is not a real location.
If you read the thread, you'll note that the 'location' is a mesh of two streets that are actually a few blocks apart in real life.
There will not be anything at the 'location' in New York, because it doesn't exist, and because it was not filmed there.

Ryan Key from Yellowcard has said that it is not him in the film. This comes from a source that I can't quite remember if was confirmed or not, but it's easy to mistake one person for another- especially when there's no close up of just him to confirm it. I agree, it looks just like him, that doesn't mean it IS him.
That, and people have listened to the track backwards and forwards and found nothing.


I have heard (and I also do not have a source) that Ryan Key did not confirm his role within the trailer... but he new guitarist was nice enough to do that for him. I think it would be hard to admit that they way he looks directly at the camera for a solid second is enough to think that Ryan Key is in someway "the key."

Second, as I mentioned, I haven't done much research, but I;m not stupid. I know it wasnt filmed in New York and I know it is not a real place. But I feel that based on the fact that there certainly are landmarks that are being thrown around and hit with the SOL head, it may be worth snooping. Especially that huge 401 sign seems like quite the clue. With all the other in-depth analysis of sounds and flash files and number 613, I'm suprised your shooting these both down so fast

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nelbot
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 		and while we're talking about google street level
thePCownsYOU wrote:
nelbot wrote:
thePCownsYOU wrote:


First: Might be worth it to check google maps new street view feature and see if we can somehow pin point where we believe the building to be. Something there might be helpful (As well as it makes sense for them to put something up for Googles filming and then take it down once the trailer was released.

(edited by nelbot to point relevant to my response)
Just some ideas. Thanks


The only trouble with that is, and this has been stated several times, the building doesn't necessarily actually exist IRL- they aren't filming on location where this building fictionally sits- it was filmed in and around LA and on sounds stages, etc...


Furthermore- google may have filmed thier street level shots of that area a year ago in anticipation of launching that feature- JJ Abrams and people working on this project- probably wouldn't have even known about it in time to do anything about making use of it- its not as if there are google filming crews circling the streets every week- that is IF this were an actual site that even existed in NYC IRL...

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 		more on google street level
ALTHOUGH- they might have checked it out and seen something already existing there to incorporate as a clue- feel free to run that down for us... too far a stetch for me to jump on- but have at it...

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 		outside the box...from the beginning
steven king lets his short stories get made into low budget movies for the price of $.01 ( or it might be $1, i can't remember for sure).

did he write any short stories about the aftermath of a creature, as told from info gathered after the fact?

i like his work, but haven't read many of the short stories. shawshank redemption was written this way as an example.

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thePCownsYOU wrote:


I have heard (and I also do not have a source) that Ryan Key did not confirm his role within the trailer... but he new guitarist was nice enough to do that for him. I think it would be hard to admit that they way he looks directly at the camera for a solid second is enough to think that Ryan Key is in someway "the key."

Second, as I mentioned, I haven't done much research, but I;m not stupid. I know it wasnt filmed in New York and I know it is not a real place. But I feel that based on the fact that there certainly are landmarks that are being thrown around and hit with the SOL head, it may be worth snooping. Especially that huge 401 sign seems like quite the clue. With all the other in-depth analysis of sounds and flash files and number 613, I'm suprised your shooting these both down so fast


I guess that would have to be considered as your opinion as to what's a clue and what's not. You assume we haven't gone over all the things you've suggested time and time again already.
The 401 Broadway thing was something that was poked and prodded time and time again and never came back with anything useful. And I honestly can't see someone from the movie going to this non-existant location to hide some kind of 'clue' for someone to find.
And as Nelbot said, most images on Google Earth are YEARS old. There's no saying when the picture of said 'location' was taken.

The 1-6-3 thing seems like a much better lead, but we're still not getting very far with it because of all the harebrained random things people keep rehashing over and over again.

If this is an ARG, if there are clues- they are probably a lot more obvious than we all think. We're digging too deep when it's most likely right infront of our faces.

Again, if someone wants to waste time and go there and look, or spend hours more tearing apart a Yellowcard song, be my guest. I'm not saying you WON'T find anything, i'm just saying it's not likely.

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fishysticks wrote:
thePCownsYOU wrote:


I have heard (and I also do not have a source) that Ryan Key did not confirm his role within the trailer... but he new guitarist was nice enough to do that for him. I think it would be hard to admit that they way he looks directly at the camera for a solid second is enough to think that Ryan Key is in someway "the key."

Second, as I mentioned, I haven't done much research, but I;m not stupid. I know it wasnt filmed in New York and I know it is not a real place. But I feel that based on the fact that there certainly are landmarks that are being thrown around and hit with the SOL head, it may be worth snooping. Especially that huge 401 sign seems like quite the clue. With all the other in-depth analysis of sounds and flash files and number 613, I'm suprised your shooting these both down so fast


I guess that would have to be considered as your opinion as to what's a clue and what's not. You assume we haven't gone over all the things you've suggested time and time again already.
The 401 Broadway thing was something that was poked and prodded time and time again and never came back with anything useful. And I honestly can't see someone from the movie going to this non-existant location to hide some kind of 'clue' for someone to find.
And as Nelbot said, most images on Google Earth are YEARS old. There's no saying when the picture of said 'location' was taken.

The 1-6-3 thing seems like a much better lead, but we're still not getting very far with it because of all the harebrained random things people keep rehashing over and over again.

If this is an ARG, if there are clues- they are probably a lot more obvious than we all think. We're digging too deep when it's most likely right infront of our faces.

Again, if someone wants to waste time and go there and look, or spend hours more tearing apart a Yellowcard song, be my guest. I'm not saying you WON'T find anything, i'm just saying it's not likely.


I was just trying to throw out ideas. The only other ARG I have done was for halo 3 and one clue was various numbers that together, formed a url for a website. So I was thinking more along the lines of using 401 with 613. The news station and temperature is just as blatent as that one single sign being smashed.

Also, with the google maps idea, it was directed toward the new street view service, which was just launched with in the last 3 months. Although the pictures may be old, they are not several years old. And honestly, would you put it past abrams to put up a sign as a clue to a location in the real NYC? Or include a semi famous yet recognizable music figure in the trailer of his new movie, who just happens to have a new CD coming out with out a reason? Certainly wouldnt deal with that if he just "liked their music" or something like that

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 		Like I said, you're more than welcome to check it out. It's just my opinion that I don't think there will be anything with the actual 'location', the numbers seem more his style from what i've read coinciding with the Lost ARG.
It's the matter of finding the right sequence, the right numbers... if those really are a clue.
So far we're coming up empty handed, so it leaves me believing we just aren't doing it right, or we're thinking way too hard.

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 		SOL head
Everyone seems to be very concerned with how the SOL head made it to the street level all the way from the island. I was watching the trailer and kept replaying the part where we first see the head flying through the air, it almost seems like it was carried by a flying creature or non-flying creature and thrown in a downward motion. If you look closely at the smoke in the background it seems to make the same motion as a ball being thrown would make. Not a major breakthrough or anything just a thought.

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fishysticks wrote:
Like I said, you're more than welcome to check it out. It's just my opinion that I don't think there will be anything with the actual 'location', the numbers seem more his style from what i've read coinciding with the Lost ARG.
It's the matter of finding the right sequence, the right numbers... if those really are a clue.
So far we're coming up empty handed, so it leaves me believing we just aren't doing it right, or we're thinking way too hard.


I'm with you and totally agree. I just wanted to throw out the street view idea as its a pretty new feature. But either way, I dont think we can abandon 401 in our number analysis.

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icemanphil wrote:
Well here is something I have thought about...

There are 3 roars in the preview.

The 1st roar is accompanied by an earthquake like event and indeed that 1st roar sounds a bit like it came from underground or underwater (Sea)

Then we have the 2nd roar, and a big explosion of a building. (Land)

Then the 3rd roar and the even that follows it is the SOL head FLYING. (Air)

I think it could be 3 monsters, and somehow Rob has found out about this 'myth' being true or something.

Could be Behemoth, Leviathan, and Ziz?

Just speculating.


if u visit slusho.jp u can only access 3 pages on the site...

1.homepage=land
2.history=water
3.download=sky(air)

hmmmm.....might be some sort of clue

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 		Couldn't find anything about this:

There are three three letter sets in the trailer. (Are there more?)

They are:

AKM (on the paddle)
ACE (graffiti on the wall by the stairs)
ABZ (on the license plate)

The only anagram that seemed even remotely interesting was "A Maze Back". There might be others.

Beyond that, each of these three letter sets is associated with a number.

AKM (six holes in the wood)
ACE (1987-2004 -or- 1967-2004)
ABZ (3293)

Can anyone make anything out of this? Or has this been discussed previously?

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 		Having passively followed a number of ARG's over the last few years I've got to say that I don't think this one is ready yet or if it ever will be.

By this stage someone normally finds something to further the game. We have nothing.

1-18-08 does nothing except 'tick' and even that may not be intentional. Even the 'monster' may be a trick of the light.

Slusho is said to be full of hints but, again, nothing except speculation.

Flash code has been disassembled, pictures have been run through stenography s/ware and still nothing.

Even the trailer appears not to have yielded anything other than speculation.

All we have is the Abram's camps words that there is stuff to be found. Is there really? Maybe looking for something which isn't there is enough to generate hype these days.

I think everyone is looking too deeply into obscure trains of thought. If there is nothing new and concrete by the weekend or the Abrams-folk haven't thrown us a bone then I'm going to lose interest.

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 		Re: SOL head
I saw it too
Rsoxfan22 wrote:
Everyone seems to be very concerned with how the SOL head made it to the street level all the way from the island. I was watching the trailer and kept replaying the part where we first see the head flying through the air, it almost seems like it was carried by a flying creature or non-flying creature and thrown in a downward motion. If you look closely at the smoke in the background it seems to make the same motion as a ball being thrown would make. Not a major breakthrough or anything just a thought.


I played that over and over and there is a shadowy thing that I keep seeing that appears to toss the head like a bowling ball almost- I don't see it on my lousy laptop screen at home but I can see it on the better screen at the office...
Its been debunked over and over but I swear my eyes are seeing this, too.

BUT... I don't think what the monster is is super important at this point- and in ARG land it might not be important to the ARG at all... so until we get a direction its all just spinning our tires making mud...

Of course this presupposes there IS an ARG...

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