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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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Kai Orion
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Related?
Godzilla 1-18-08

Maybe they are the same movie... the clues do kinda point to it, admittedly...did anyone check out my second fireball theory? watch as the camera pans towards explosion, a second i on the horizon...freaky

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I'll try this here, but the idea is to work with what we really do know and agree on...

In our mythic childhoods when we put together ship models, if it began to look too avant guard we then tried out the printed instructions. What if we just go back and look at the basic things that are obvious:

* It makes a moaning, groaning sound, like some kind of beasty.
* It causes moderate earthquake rumblings at great distance.
* Given the distance, it caused a fireball much larger than any past beasty from idiotic giant monster films (of any brand or toy TM). The fireball was at least 40 stories and *Godzilla* was 40 stories itself. The moaning thing should be able to get Godzilla stuck between its toes and hardly notice.
* The explosion sent fireballs miles into the sky, and some of these had reports like bottle rockets the size of cars (were they cars on fire, sent flying, gas tanks bursting seconds after the car is on fire?).
* People who catch a glimpse of it on the horizon say, "animal," reiterating the first point above.
* The thing can throw, like a baseball pitch, the 17 foot long, 20 ton head of SOL (fitting double meaning there) at least two miles. If it was at Rob, the ricochet is was either lucky or very nicely done (golf putt applause). In any case, the thing thinks and is mean spirited.
* Rob's reactions do seem to have a hint of the "oh, darn, I was kind of worried about this happening," sensibility to them.
* New York is a bit warm late at night for January.
* The interesting thing at the Slusho site is that someone has gone down to the bottom of the ocean and taken something (humans are the parasite?) from something that must be kept cold.
* In the Slusho/History site, the *octopus* swims up. Over and over. They don't swim up, they swim along the bottom, left and right, like the fishes and the crab does there.

In terms of interpreting this, for my part, a modern tale of Cthulhu (mountain size, mean, vengeful, octopus-head) does not yet leave my mind when looking at what's here so far.

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Cthulhu

hi im new to this but i think that the picture of the Cthulhu looks simmlur to the giant thingy at the end of hellboy thats what i thought

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Re: Related?
Godzilla 1-18-08

Kai Orion wrote:
Maybe they are the same movie... the clues do kinda point to it, admittedly...did anyone check out my second fireball theory? watch as the camera pans towards explosion, a second i on the horizon...freaky


From the article "The anticipated start date for this original production is slated for February 2008, and will lens in South America, Mexico, Tokyo, Las Vegas and Los Angeles. Casting for this English language film will take place in Los Angeles."

So JJ and bad robot now have the ability to manipulate time and space?

Please let Godzilla go. Free him from this useless speculation about him. He wants to go have cookies.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:12 am
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For those of you who don't wish to go through 260 pages here is a summary of everything that is known so far about this movie:


*The project name is cloverfield
*its being produced by Lost's JJ Abrams
*It will be released 1-18-08 (seriously, no extra trailers on that date, etc)
*It is set in New York
*Plot: After an alien has attacked and destroyed NY, someone finds a video camera and watches it and this is the entire movie
*The only official sites so far that have been found are www.1-18-08.com and www.slusho.jp
*Ethan Haas websites have NOTHING to do with this project
*The budget for the film is $30 million, principle shooting has not yet begun or just very recently begun as of this post
*The title for this film plus possible extra info will be released next thursday (july 26th) at Comic-Con in Sand Diego
*The general consensus at Paramount is that JJ Abrams cut the trailer himself and is working very closely with the project
*some photos of the set have been leaked including what looks like a disaster aftermath in a NY street, a picture of a woman's torso being made into a casting mold, a group of weapons (RPGs or rocket launchers) and another aftermath photo at Coney Island
*(wide URL with link to more leaks about Coney Island and backlot photos)
*The monster or monsters are internally being referred to as "The Parasite"


That's about all the info that I feel is legit and pertinent right now. Anything else is pure speculation and has led to over 250 pages of some interesting theories but all dead ends. I'm sure we won't know too much of anything new until Comic-Con next week. Hold tight everyone.


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The "plot info" is decidedly not canon yet. The quote did not come from anyone affiliated with the production company, film crew or paramount. Take it with a LARGE grain of salt.

The filming has started, per the photos/location requests/coney island filming info we have.
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If the previous 1-18-08 pics appeared on the 3rd, 6th, then 12th of July, does anyone expect the next one to appear on the 24th (doubling the timescale each time)? Or are we expecting no more information until San Diego?

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Moon-Crane wrote:
If the previous 1-18-08 pics appeared on the 3rd, 6th, then 12th of July, does anyone expect the next one to appear on the 24th (doubling the timescale each time)? Or are we expecting no more information until San Diego?


yes moon crane, but I posted it over at one of the other threads. Very Happy
Glad somebody is on the same page as me.

With that being said I think from here we need to look into a Swiss connection. The whole swiss cheese fish thing, led me to ask what the .com for switzerland is I thought it would be .sw but it's .ch. Which seems like a clue to me. Swiss cheese. I used google to view .ch and flash movies in the advanced tabs but didn't find anything. Maybe a few more hands to thoroughly research it would help.

Also ducks and balloons, all I could find was that a duck was used to test one of the first hot air balloons. May be a clue maybe not. So not really liking to post speculation. I'll stop here.

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our father who art in heaven, please strike dead the next person who says this thing has anything to do with godzilla

Amen.
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backlot photos

the photo's at the slashfilm site have been taken down "until they can get confirmation from paramount that they aren't copywrited".

does anybody have these saved & can post, or another place where they can be viewed?

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 Been thinking
... that must be why I smell smoke.

I think it's been assumed that the party is taking place at "Our Main Dude Rob's" place. And that he is leaving for Japan "tomorrow," the 19th.

If it is, and he is, why hasn't he packed up yet? Confused

I think it's Camera-Dude's place. The one that walks in with Rob.

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Re: Been thinking
... that must be why I smell smoke.

Loxly wrote:
I think it's been assumed that the party is taking place at "Our Main Dude Rob's" place. And that he is leaving for Japan "tomorrow," the 19th.

If it is, and he is, why hasn't he packed up yet? Confused

I think it's Camera-Dude's place. The one that walks in with Rob.


i think it's the asian guys place, seeing as how the entire loft is dressed in asian theme and is near canal street, also wasn't he preparing something in the table area?


then again, these guys are fresh out of college, so the three of them could be roomies Which begs the question, if they are roomates in that area, what's the nearest college?

EDIT

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&q=401+broadway&um=1&sa=N&tab=wl


searched for colleges nearby got 100,721 results. yay.

the one on that list that seems the most likely right off the bat is NYU

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Re: Been thinking
... that must be why I smell smoke.

Iamthequestion wrote:
i think it's the asian guys place, seeing as how the entire loft is dressed in asian theme and is near canal street, also wasn't he preparing something in the table area?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:19 am
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Now that we're back to speculation, from the info that is out so far I'd like to share my new thoughts on the film.


1st, I believe Rob and everyone at the party will be dead by the time the film starts (if the camera is found in the aftermath it's pretty safe to assume no one lives through it)

2nd, I think JJ Abrams is deciding to do the movie this way for a couple reasons. In the trailer someone says to Rob that it looks like he should have left earlier. I don't Rob knows what is going to happen to him, but I think this line is used to get under the skin of the audience as well. It adds a level of frustration and sadness to the story since he probably had a chance to leave but decided to stay longer for some reason.

Too often a typical story has a happy ending where the conflict is resolved and everyone is fine in the end. If this is to follow in the footsteps of the Blair Witch in story structure, I think tragedy will be one of the major themes. And just like the Blair witch, I don't think we will be seeing too much of the monster. Im sure we will see some glimpses of what is attacking NY but Im assuming most of the movie will be Rob and his friends attempting to get out of NY or at least far enough to save themselves.


The overwhelming pathos combined with a handheld consumer level camera will be enough to evoke strong emotions and a sense of reality from the audience and hopefully make up for any flashy and costly special effects. We will feel the fear and pain these characters experience and Im sure this will bring back memories of 9/11 for some and the humbling realization that at times there is nothing you can do to prevent adversity.

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to any of the Lost Expereince arg experts.. ::cough, cough:: Wink

do you have a comlete list of all anagrams that lead to clues, websites, ect?

so far the only ones i have are a story about a bell hop named
mandrake wig which was meant as waking dream which turned out to be part of a URL

then theere was some sort of newsletter about remembering
wand prowess which was new password

basically im looking for a pattern, or a template. It seems to me JJ is a creature of habbit. if it aint broke don't fix it right?

if those two were two word based anagrams how many more are there? and how many of them are names?

did any of them spell out words in a different language?

how many fo them were strange phrases in a story, such as the slusho history page, and how were they emphasized, what was it that stood out, that lead people run them through the anagram o matic?

BTW I use this one

http://www.ssynth.co.uk/~gay/anagott.html


one of the results for ovenmitt, cheese was

vicomte ethenes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaux-le-Vicomte

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ethenes

Cliff notes: deadly french gas Shocked Laughing Crying or Very sad

The Statue of Liberty was designed by Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi after he was inspired by Ferdinand Marie Vicomte de Lesseps

and according to the holy google, ethenes is a type of gas that can be used to cut metals.

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