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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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samson120
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Re: in regards to the movement of the pictures...

scaremongerR wrote:
has anyone noticed that if you move the pictures a bit, and click and drag the
black background, it moves both images at once in the same formation they were put in. i'm not entirely positive this is required for anything, but it doesn't seem like a bug.


It all depends on the screens resolution. The flash is designed for wide screen and at least 1440 x 900 or so, I assume you are either using 1024x768 or some other standard aspect which allows you to move the background. Not a glitch, nor clue.

Tinag, alot of this was already coverd. There are at least half a dozen variants of 1-18-08.com (ie 01-18-08.com, 01-18-2008.com, etc). The only common thread between them all is Albert Pike or the company as either registrant or admin contact. Only 1-18-08.com lists Henry Kelvin which makes him the odd man out and probably the only real clue besides the pictures themselves.

I also am starting to think this isn't a game and just viral marketing since no other info or clues have been given. Also cloverfieldmovie.com is still blank.

Has anyone logged back into Sector7 and looked for any other data by chance (though I highly doubt it).

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metagraven
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Re: creepy thing

tinag222 wrote:
Here it is again...just the creepy thing.

It could be something...or it could be one of these situations here:

http://www.christianmedia.us/devil-face.html


What we do know is that it'll be a wait and see how it comes out in the wash thing ;-p


What's really bothering me about this is it looks just like a supposed photograph of a demonic entity that I've seen on occult websites before. I'm wracking my brain to remember what the name of the thing was so maybe I can seek out the pics and post one for comparison.

Oh yeah, 1st post here. The 1-18-08 thing brought me here.

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Fon_Win
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From IMDB

checked Imdb and found this synopsis.

A giant monster movie (currently referred to internally as Cloverfield; the monster itself is referred to as "The Parasite", not to be confused with the film project The Parasyte) that is shot using home video cameras from the point of view of people who are experiencing an attack on New York City.

That's the current synopsis..

The First Synopsis which was created July 3rd reads.. (had to create account to get this info) by user sgeorgiou307.. oddly enough sgeorgiou307 appears to have only made on contribution to the site (google search).

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ok all that is known so far is that this has the working title cloverfeild and thats its a giant monster movie shot completely by home video camera to give the viewer the point of view of the people experiencing this event sort of like cnn's i report a bold idea sorta blair witch like though


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Analysis on Youtube.

"nightowl3090" has put together an analysis on Youtube. It was a tad helpful to me. Thought I'd share.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=im7wWMVzIyg

It's pretty straight to the point.

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tinag222
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Samson

Yes, I realize the whois was covered on the first 3 pages of this thread - I was on it too then, but by page 3 this topic got jacked by the Ethan Haas thing and while it *was* covered already that the phone number for Pike and Kelvin whois info (1-18 site) resolved to the airfield, the person who came in on page 3 pointing out that the same whois info is ALSO on the Transformers Sectorseven.org site is the same got trampled under foot. As if this was totally irrelevant when it's glaringly linked. Why this is getting glazed over is curious to me. It's your starting gun, smoking gun, your first solid proof that there's some argishness going on. Dismissing it as useless *because* the info is fake is missing the damn point.


The thing I was pointing out was the phone numbers are ALSO the same - and that means the same people are behind it. The Henry Kelvin clue points back to Abrams and LOST, Albert Pike points to Transformers/S7.

Question: what do they have in common?

ARGS.

Connect the dots. Picture: ARGS.

That IS the clue pointing out this 1-18 site, hidden like it was and already there waiting on somebody, complete with visitor tracker proving it (and keep in mind 1-18 was created in March. ALL they did to this site was make a black page and add one photo...in FOUR MONTHS? That aint a "site"...the WHOIS info being linked up this way is the clue that suggests this IS an ARG....and it's getting lost and sidetracked and hijacked by the Ethan Hass crap that likely hasn't got anything to do with 1-18.

For every post about 1-18 and what's up there, 5 more show up trying to present us all with breaking news it might be related to Ethan Haas, or speculating on how they came from the future and formed a resistance against aliens - when nothing about 1-18 has so far indicated anything about aliens or all that. The Ethan stuff is like trying to link it to 1-18 instead of finishing what this thread started.

That was the main question IS THIS AN ARG OR NOT?

Before we made it to page 3 in just trying to determine that, it was hijacked. The above information that I've pointed to several times now to keep it as a frame of reference here for the above question, is what should be considered legitimate clues. Of course it's fake information. Not the point. Point is the same identical fake information is used two places on two different sites, that just happened to have a release date back to back 5 days ago...and both of them are directly linked to known ARGishness.

So that should clear up this IS likely gonna be an ARG style game here and not just some viral marketing. Otherwise it would have more of that professional quality style marketing nuance to it, like Pirates and DV Code. The LOST arg didn't show up out of a cereal box with a flash game. Nobody knew there was one til they called a phone number or managed to look up the hidden websites....which is the MO here for 1-18.

I agree with the above that we should be looking at 1-18 and the clues on there. That's why we ended up here to begin with.

RE sectorseven - I did log in day before yesterday using deceptibots pw and checked out the stuff there, which looked to me like various files regarding incidences with the d-bots. But it's still active, stuff is still there...and maybe that game will continue since they're already working on T2 sequel.

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Only one thing I can add at this point

The girl on the left in the first 1-18-08 picture is Lizzie Caplan.

She's already been confirmed as a cast member in the film. You can see her in the trailer. And you can also see the (black) girl on the right of the photo at some point in the trailer. They are definitely two seperate people. Sorry, conspiracy nuts.

Caplan was in The Class, which featured prominently a character named Ethan Haas, but having seen a few episodes, I can guarentee that there is no link between that show and either 1-18-08 or ethanhaaswasright beyond a simple naming coincidence. It was just a heartwarming CBS sitcom that got cancelled after one season. This is, depending on where you look, masonic conspiracy or H.P. Lovecraft weirdness. Delicious.[/url]

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Re: Calling the Number

MasterExploder wrote:
MasterExploder wrote:
Yeah I called the number +1.3104504620 and I would recommend other people call it too it is a line setup for the movie no doubt. It starts naming flight patterns weather conditions and coordinates (at least thats what I thought).

Check it out.

After a little more research and a Google search of the number take a look at what I found out. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%28310%29450-4620&btnG=Search)
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The Barker Hangar - The Santa Monica Air Center
(310) 393-7758. Atis. (310) 450-4620. The Ninty-Nines. Home office. (405) 685-7969. Local Office. C.J. Strawn. (310) 397-7011 ...
www.barkerhangar.com/smac.htm


Probably completely unrelated, but from memory then new E3 Business and Media Summit is being held at Barker Hangar from the 10th of this month... But as I said probably unrelated

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The girl on the left in the first 1-18-08 picture is Lizzie Caplan.

She's already been confirmed as a cast member in the film. You can see her in the trailer. And you can also see the (black) girl on the right of the photo at some point in the trailer. They are definitely two seperate people. Sorry, conspiracy nuts.


Conspiracy nuts? riiight. Anyway, yes we are aware she's been reported to be cast. Yes, those two are different people but the question was whether the first still shown on 1-18 site was one face split and reversed or was it a warped view of two girls that close together with the same eyes, which was too similar. Caplan doesn't look like the black chick or the hispanic? chick. The latter two don't look alike either. The two face halves in the 1-18 pic looked alike and that's what prompted the question. Whether it is or not, who knows.

While the Pike reference connects to masonic conspiracy, that doesn't mean 1-18 does. The whois is behind the scenes and likely linked to the clue pointing out a trail at all.

What I am curious about is what the S7 game people on UF got out of the whois on S7 when they first got it, and if they went down the Pike/masonic trail seeing if and how that fit into S7 one way or the other, and if any of that info might be useful for rooting out the story with 1-18.

Did it have any bearing on the S7 stuff or was it mostly used behind the scenes as a "nod" that yeah, S7 site is an arg, so keep playing. If that's what it was, then it's likely being used for the same purpose here, which is what my guess is, since so far, nothing about 1-18 has much to do with Pike/masonic order or anything else he was involved in. I am also not, and never was pointing out that S7 game and 1-18 'game' are linked in the 'in game' sense...just that the PMs working behind the scenes from the whois info are all "guilty" of developing args, so 1-18 is probably gonna be one.

I DID at least point out that there's more of a link between s7 and 1-18 being 'related' in game than 1-18 with Ethan...and it's possible considering how the trailer was released and the fact T2 is underway, and that S7 is still active and the latest content there is about the d-bots - since they all managed to remain on earth. At this time I don't actually think 1-18 is part of the T2 trailer at all. I think whoever was/is behind Transformers is collaborating with Abrams to put something else together and that's why they share the same info...and Abrams (aka Lost arg, etc) is 'referenced' by Henry Kelvin. Spielberg (aka AI arg) was exec producer of Transformers. Paramount did Transformers too. That's the behind the scenes link...but the fuse of Kelvin and Pike is what suggests these people have provided another game....which was why 1-18 was fed to us the way it was.

Notice how the trailer for the no name movie is *not* being shown massive style on tv....it was a plant ;-p Those same people knew damn well all the S7 arg players were gonna be in the theater seeing Transformers now, regardless....already puzzle arg primed....so they had their audience in the bag to toss out the mystery trailer, knowing damn well who would rip it open in record time.

Cause it's a game.

And you know they're paying attention.

Which brings me to this:


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Hi there Mr Abrams and Mr Spielberg!!! Loved the flick! Please update 1-18 soon, throw us a bone here! Thank you! We love you!


Mr. Green

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Consipiracy nuts was perhaps a bit condescending, so I apologize for that. I just don't buy that it's one face split in two.

Now, I'll grant that that picture of Caplan isn't great, but I've got uninitiated folks who saw hwe on the Class that recognized her as the hispanic-looking girl in the first 1-18-08 pic. I'm not saying you have to be convinced it's her, just saying I am. The only reason I posted is because I saw that someone ran the face through a celebrity recognition system of some kind further up.

As a better analogue, look here: http://www.circa1978.com/catch/ehwr/. Caplan shows up at :12 in the trailer, says "What is this for?." Note the eyes and the hair. Nose looks different 'cause of the angle, but I think it's a good enough match.

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No problem Wink It's like the demon thing - once you see it, it's hard to not see it.

I was probably already watching the video again while you posted ;-p The audio is fuzzy for me and 3 places I would seriously like to know what is being said.

at 0.36 after the girl says it sounds like an animal, there's a guy saying something and then what sounds like "everything" but not sure.

at 0.46 when they're coming out on the roof, the group standing there, some guys are saying something, just before it moves to Rob and whoever saying he should've left town earlier.

at 1.16 to 1-18 about, after its alive.huge, some guy is louder, saying something at 1.16, sounds like he repeats it...and then another roar happens and the flying SOL head.

I can't make any of that out. Anybody able to pull out a clearer audio or make out what it says at all?

As for me personally, I'm leaning toward the theory that since this was done in Blair Witch mode, and since the site presents one still shot timed at 12:36A and then couple days later adds a second one timestamped 12:01A, and that Rob's drink pic takes place before the monster attack, and the distressed chick happens half hour later, that it's flashbacking, but more that it would be a case of piecing it together from recovered videocamera footage after the fact....and for the site, using still shots might be frames from the same videocamera, or might instead be pictures from a digi camera or cell phone camera that is found.

Like after the event, the cameras are discovered and the gist is to figure out what happened (to NY, to the nation, to the world, to the planet, etc), when, who was involved, what their story was through what these people experienced. Not so much people from the future coming back, but being in the future looking back via the footage - along with local info/lore, like Blair Witch. Like all the people at Rob's party, even Rob maybe, end up dead, save but one - possibly the girl in pic 1, but she's lost it, traumatized and only gets out bits of stuff that regard what happened, the rest is pieced together via the footage....somebody finds, or that she's clutching to or something "after" it's all said and done?

If this is a game then those photos are relevant the way they were presented....the timestamp is obvious, but they are presented in reverse order, the tick/rotating business could be pointing to the clock ticking forward or counter, directing us to keep an eye on a timeline of events.

12:01 Rob and friends are still obliviously partying. It's midnight into January 18?

Some point after this the party is disrupted.

12:36 is half an hour later, and the girl/s distressed. This shot is curious because who took it? Why such an angle as to get one eye of each girl (or if it was 2, why alter it, etc).

Also I noticed there's a time jump in the trailer, even tho there wasn't a timestamp showing on the screen. There's a split from the party to the first roar...and at the end, after the disruption flashbacking to the guy saying it'll be the best night ever. This is also one of the reasons I tend to lean toward a story in flashback....they're presenting things out of time sequence....nonlinear....and that's what BW did....

If it's not what they have in mind, oh well...but that's about all we got to work with and apparently nobody's found much hidden in the flash pics. If they're presenting it from the POV of the group, and in flashback, then trying to glean a story from the stills might be the game itself.

Never know but it's intriguing. Why would they give us 2? Those two. Are these two people connected in the story? Or is it just pointing out the timeframe window?

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The Girl

So, I took the "mysterious girl" photo from 118 into photoshop again. This round, I spent a little more time on it.

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8545/118ladycompareca5.jpg

Thoughts?

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What specifically did you do to it outside switching it around?

I ask because in your version the left one has smeared eye makeup and the one on 1-18 doesn't - only the one on the right is smeared.

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I relistened and here's what I got

After the "It sounds like an animal" I hear one guy say "What can we do?" Then I hear another male voice say "[Fuzzy] just relax!" Then I hear the same "Everything" you did. I can't hear any context for it.

Guys on the roof say "What kind of animal sounds like that?" and "I don't know man. It was shaking. There were, like, tremors.".

The repeated thing is, "Has anybody seen [a name I can't make out]?" I think it might be Cathy.

I'm pretty sure about all of it.

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tinag222 wrote:
What specifically did you do to it outside switching it around?

I ask because in your version the left one has smeared eye makeup and the one on 1-18 doesn't - only the one on the right is smeared.


I put the original left 'half' on the right and lined it up to the best of my ability. I then smeared the makeup.

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You could probably take half of MY face, looking up wide-eyed in terror, put it next to that and put smeared makeup on me, and it would match up.
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