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eccramer
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[INFO] Starimage2 overlayed

Okay, I got the starimage 1 and 2 files compiled into one in Photoshop. It's a big help that the gyphs match up when they're aligned properly.

EDIT: Gah, I don't think it's working. Here's a link to it on my webspace. Please be nice to my bandwidth!


edited to add [INFO] tag and the following: you can PM me or thebruce or any moderator if you have trouble uploading attachments ~rose
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:23 pm
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Yes but should they be? i mean what if you use the guide lines and stars in each image to see if they fit side by side, And this is being discussed in the other thread we need to house keep a bit.
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Awhite2490
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I posted an overlay I did in the Server 2 unlocked thread.
If you line up the photoshop guidelines on the two images, the glyphs overlay exactly.

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eccramer
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skybruin wrote:
Yes but should they be? i mean what if you use the guide lines and stars in each image to see if they fit side by side, And this is being discussed in the other thread we need to house keep a bit.


Sorry, I didn't notice that it was posted in the other thread ( I did check, I guess I just missed it.) Mods can delete this if they so please.

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Can we change this into a StarImage02 thread? We don't have one.

Anyways, I wanted to point out that the glyphs are backwards on both star images. They should be facing he other direction. There might be a reason for this.

Also, I'm guessing that they are the positions of the Halos.

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Here's one I did, not sure of the opacity, but its a pretty good overlap. If anyone wants to try something a little different, let me know.




Edit: Here's another one, that's just img 2 overlayed on img 1 with blend set to lighten, and at only 80 opacity



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basic stuff first

Is it possible to identify the stars that match, and the stars that don't?

Speculation is that the ones that match will mean something, or that the glyph marks time and the images are the procession of the stars during that timeframe (with birth and death of stars accounting for the inconsistencies).

On first pass, it looks like Starimage 2 is missing the stars, and some amjor ones, near the glyph, mainly. I don't see any stars in Starimage2 that is not in the overlap are of starimage 2.

I'll try to upload the starimage1 with the stars marked as missing in starimage2

edit: I have the combined image in a tif? format, with the following legend:
green = stars on Starimage1 and NOT on Starimage2
cyan = stars on Starimage2 and NOT on Starimage1
magenta = stars that seemed to have shifted beteween the two.

Note the majority of the dots are GREEN, that they are significant stars, and they are relegated to near the glyph/lower half of the overlap.

Apologies, but I used the only apps I had access to , and that's MS VIsio.

Hope this helps.
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Is it possible (I'm suggesting, not telling) that the star maps are actually time lapse? Basically, I'm suggesting that they are pictures of the night sky taken from some point on Earth (or somewhere) over a period of time.
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LordC
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help.

I am not sure if my tif file got uploaded correctly. Please advise.

Edit: It uploaded correctly. I've changed the TIF setting to display them only as links instead of images (which didn't appear to work). -SpaceBass

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I believe it's already been proven that the starmaps (or the first one, at least) have sections copy/pasted and flipped or rotated to help them fill the space up with stars quicker. I forget the exact post, but I think it was on args.bungie.org somewhere. You can definitely see that some parts of starmap1 were reused in other parts of the image. That doesn't necessarily mean that it won't still overlay somehow with starmap2, but I think it they really intended for them to overlap they would have been more careful about the star placement.
My guess is they're meant to be placed next to each other and may eventually map out to something similar to the spectrograph image, with Sol at the center or something like that, but I haven't really looked at them yet.

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coloneloneill
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did anyone notice

http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=2606

the new trailer released, in the intro theres a starry night with a nebula, the stars ...to me...seem to line up with 2nd starmap

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So, i have been away for a while, and some things have happened, developments have been made, and this thread seems to have died a death... is there some other place this is being discussed? cos i couldn't find anywhere.

So, i have recreated what LordC had done but not managed to upload (TIFF's are not very web friendly) so i have created a GIF.

It shows all the elements unique to StarImage1 in RED, all elements unique to StarImage2 in BLUE, and all elements common to both images in GREEN. Although, there doesn't seem to be any hidden image or any meaning what-so-ever, apart from to show us that the stars in this area of space have changed between the two images.

The other thing that has changed, is the glyph. and it is in the same place on both images. This means that the glyph doesn't nesseceraly represent a location (since it would be the same in both if it did) but it seems to represent time, some sort of long count calendar made by the acients. See details on the Mayan Long count calendar here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar#Long_Count

(I know there is already speculation about it linking to lunar phases, but i think it deals with longer time periods than a month.)

Imagine that each level or ring (or part ring) represents a different scale of time, in the same way as we have seconds, minutes, hours, days, months, years.

Now exactly what it counts and how, i am not sure. Its hard to tell which image is the more recent, so i cant tell if the glyph is counting up or down. Also, for the Stars to move/disappear to tht level "naturlly" would take millions of years, but it makes no sense to have the glyphs outer most unit counting in millions of years.. so maybe all these stars were destroyed un-naturally.

I probably need to see more glyphs, and certainly more StarImage's to make a proper assumption.

(am searching ALL glyphs now to find a pattern to support my theory)

Any thoughts?
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