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texrangr35
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Somewhat of a devil's advocate:
If that was intended to be a date, shouldn't it be 160180? Otherwise you run the risk of confusing certain dates - eg is 11180 Jan 11 1980 or Nov 1 1980? Obviously that isn't a risk when there is a 6 involved, but still...
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:22 pm
thebruce
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attempted to listen to the breaks as she said the numbers...
the only way 16180 can be a date is 16-1-80, and I've seen dates use single digits for the middle number/month before
she's a british operator, and it's a british format date
already conceded going from 16180 to all this is a stretch, but there's lots of coincidental info... but intriguing, educational and informational to boot
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:26 pm
MariusDarkwolf
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thebruce wrote:
attempted to listen to the breaks as she said the numbers...
the only way 16180 can be a date is 16-1-80, and I've seen dates use single digits for the middle number/month before
she's a british operator, and it's a british format date
already conceded going from 16180 to all this is a stretch, but there's lots of coincidental info... but intriguing, educational and informational to boot
Plus its just plain fun
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:28 pm
Hammer
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Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Posts: 26
I was poking around the EPA site that the Document is from and read over a couple of pages, Specifically the ones on containment. It mentions Biocides, which I Wikied and came up with this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biocide
If not completely related it at least makes you think.
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:55 pm
rush
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That makes me think that perhaps there's a different threat we haven't thought of yet. Maybe the UNSC or ONI is coming up with a kill-all solution of their own to combat the Flood and that's what we're supposed to stop...
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:00 pm
MariusDarkwolf
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rush wrote:
That makes me think that perhaps there's a different threat we haven't thought of yet. Maybe the UNSC or ONI is coming up with a kill-all solution of their own to combat the Flood and that's what we're supposed to stop...
Kinda like a biochemical version of the Halo's? That would be very bad.
Though technically neither the UNSC nor their ONI exist right now, the FCC or their sponsers could be doing something like this.
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:06 pm
thebruce
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The only thing that bothers me is organizations in our time who know about the Flood. The only way I can see an organization specifically working on something related directly to Flood organisms, is if they somehow were able to retrieve that information from the forerunner Ark.
Otherwise I would guess that everything we're finding will eventually get linked to the Flood - that is, for example, science is developing a new immunization technique which we'll find out eventually actually helps against the Flood...
I just can't see an organization in our time realistically know anything about the Flood (going by the arg philosophy that the 'video game' doesn't exist, but its story is in fact real) unless they've discovered and studied the Ark.
SOTA has found the Glyph. The FCC has either 1) also found it 2) don't recognize it/didn't notice it 3) didn't originally have it and it's recently appeared 4) been working with SOTA to track down the source of the glyph 5) been working with SOTA under cover because they've already discovered the Ark.
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:35 pm
MariusDarkwolf
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thebruce wrote:
The only thing that bothers me is organizations in our time who know about the Flood. The only way I can see an organization specifically working on something related directly to Flood organisms, is if they somehow were able to retrieve that information from the forerunner Ark.
Otherwise I would guess that everything we're finding will eventually get linked to the Flood - that is, for example, science is developing a new immunization technique which we'll find out eventually actually helps against the Flood...
I just can't see an organization in our time realistically know anything about the Flood (going by the arg philosophy that the 'video game' doesn't exist, but its story is in fact real) unless they've discovered and studied the Ark.
SOTA has found the Glyph. The FCC has either 1) also found it 2) don't recognize it/didn't notice it 3) didn't originally have it and it's recently appeared 4) been working with SOTA to track down the source of the glyph 5) been working with SOTA under cover because they've already discovered the Ark.
You forgot option 6) Is working against SotA to keep general humanity from finding out about this stuff, basically MiB syndrome.
One of my theories especially given where the original zombie myths started, and the method for zombie creation started, is that like most known forerunner installations (except for Onyx) the Ark may have held flood spores, and some people got infected, and the native africians (who've been moved all over the world) found them, and learned how to use the spores to make a cut down version of the flood zombies.
FCC or their sponsers found out about the Ark somehow, went there, and decided that this had to be hidden for the safety of the rest of humanity. It would also explain the increase in zombie movies lately. They figured that the zombies/flood would escape at some point, and wanted to give people a heads up on how to take them out.
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:44 pm
thebruce
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If the forerunners couldn't contain the flood, I highly doubt ancient Africans would be able to 'use' them... sorry but that spec seems way too far-fetched and extraneous...
IF 6 is viable, in that FCC is trying to cover up what SOTA's discovering, then I still think it doesn't include a discovery, let alone research, on the Flood themselves. For one, there's still over 500 years until the Flood are let loose, and that's on a different Halo, not earth. Plus, why would FCC put glyphs on their image ads?
If anything, Forerunner research may have been found, and is being studied by FCC. SOTA, if not affiliated with FCC, just found the glyph, and I don't think FCC is actively doing anything to shut them up... SOTA hasn't discoeverd anything but the glyph yet. At least, that we know of (ie no need to go there just yet).
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I'm thinking the arc of today's timeline in the grand scheme of things is the initial discovery/development of a medical vaccine that will eventually be used to combat the Flood. Add a twist of Forerunner AI, a splash of unsolved mysteries, and a drop of ancient Glyph, and we've already got a crazy plot...
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:03 pm
MConnalley
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i found something possibly on the PPE stage they were talking about. On this Url "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPE" they give a list of possibly meanings for PPE i found "Power Processor Element" to be the most coherent because the info on the page says that this chip was created to emphasize bandwidth over latency which lead me to believe that adjutantreflex was possibly using this?
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:10 pm
Phoenix1337
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thebruce wrote:
If the forerunners couldn't contain the flood, I highly doubt ancient Africans would be able to 'use' them... sorry but that spec seems way too far-fetched and extraneous...
I agree. Highly unlikely. But damn that would be cool. Zombie Apocalypse FTW!
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:11 pm
thebruce
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Welcome to UF McConnalley... FYI, PPE is being discussed in this thread about the phone number and recordings.
A tip: check thread titles before posting to find the most appropriate place to bring it up, and remember that Search is your friend .
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:15 pm
MConnalley
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lol sorry i just got so into this that i posted it were ever i could lol its still kinda hard to navigate through your site, its a little bit more unorganized than most forum sites.
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:22 pm
whitekeyes
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Phoenix1337 wrote:
Ok, here's a question: Does interferon fight bacterial or viral infections? Because it seems pretty clear that the flood are bacterial (from the references to flood spores in Halo).
So in order for there to be a connection, we need to show one of the following things.
1) The flood has a viral component.
2) Interferon has an anti-bacterial property
3) The PM's don't know the difference between bacterial and viral infections.
MariusDarkwolf wrote:
rush wrote:
I'll bet the farm on #1.
And I'll raise a barn that there's a healthy componet of #3 in there.
Ouch
lol
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:37 am
MariusDarkwolf
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Come on, honestly, what does the average layperson know about the differences between viral and bacterial infections? Slightly less than nothing. Which isn't to say that this is nessacarly the case, just saying that unless there's a virologist or bacterialogist in on this, theres gonna be a 'healthy' dose of a lack of knowlege
Still got the love though
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:41 am
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