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Phoenix1337
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MariusDarkwolf wrote:
Come on, honestly, what does the average layperson know about the differences between viral and bacterial infections? Slightly less than nothing. Which isn't to say that this is nessacarly the case, just saying that unless there's a virologist or bacterialogist in on this, theres gonna be a 'healthy' dose of a lack of knowlege

Still got the love though
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And thats why we have drug-resistant super-bacteria that will wipe us out. Which sucks, cuz I was really hoping for Zombies. I have my Zombie plan and everything.

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MConnalley
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i was reading up on ppe or ppd, w/e variant its supposed to be in the phone message but yeah i found this, much unrelated but just enough to make you think

"The tuberculosis skin test (also known as the tuberculin or PPD test) is a test used to determine if someone has developed an immune response to the bacterium that causes tuberculosis (TB)"

http://www.medicinenet.com/tuberculosis_skin_test_ppd_skin_test/article.htm

here the article

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Phoenix1337 wrote:
MariusDarkwolf wrote:
Come on, honestly, what does the average layperson know about the differences between viral and bacterial infections? Slightly less than nothing. Which isn't to say that this is nessacarly the case, just saying that unless there's a virologist or bacterialogist in on this, theres gonna be a 'healthy' dose of a lack of knowlege

Still got the love though
Razz


And thats why we have drug-resistant super-bacteria that will wipe us out. Which sucks, cuz I was really hoping for Zombies. I have my Zombie plan and everything.


Same here, I got my 6 moldy peanut butter sandwiches stapled to the back of my bookcase, and scrambled eggs under my bed...
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assman665 wrote:
Phoenix1337 wrote:
MariusDarkwolf wrote:
Come on, honestly, what does the average layperson know about the differences between viral and bacterial infections? Slightly less than nothing. Which isn't to say that this is nessacarly the case, just saying that unless there's a virologist or bacterialogist in on this, theres gonna be a 'healthy' dose of a lack of knowlege

Still got the love though
Razz


And thats why we have drug-resistant super-bacteria that will wipe us out. Which sucks, cuz I was really hoping for Zombies. I have my Zombie plan and everything.


Same here, I got my 6 moldy peanut butter sandwiches stapled to the back of my bookcase, and scrambled eggs under my bed...


Come on Ethan you know you're supposed to hide the eggs under Lucus's bed Laughing
I'm hoping for the Zombpocolypse too, I've got two weeks of food stored in my attic.

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MariusDarkwolf wrote:
assman665 wrote:
Phoenix1337 wrote:
MariusDarkwolf wrote:
Come on, honestly, what does the average layperson know about the differences between viral and bacterial infections? Slightly less than nothing. Which isn't to say that this is nessacarly the case, just saying that unless there's a virologist or bacterialogist in on this, theres gonna be a 'healthy' dose of a lack of knowlege

Still got the love though
Razz


And thats why we have drug-resistant super-bacteria that will wipe us out. Which sucks, cuz I was really hoping for Zombies. I have my Zombie plan and everything.


Same here, I got my 6 moldy peanut butter sandwiches stapled to the back of my bookcase, and scrambled eggs under my bed...


Come on Ethan you know you're supposed to hide the eggs under Lucus's bed Laughing
I'm hoping for the Zombpocolypse too, I've got two weeks of food stored in my attic.


Everytime I go to Wal-Mart, I try to find a new way to get to the roof (garden center=best route)... just in case. I wonder if there will be Wal-Marts in 2552....

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Yeah, this is very interesting. Sorry, new member here, long time member of High impact Halo, just liked a site where there were more professionals and the people at HIH seem a little slow on this ARG. I just thought I'd make a contribution, the way the Flood(yes, that's with a capital F) actually work.

The Flood Infection Form is a parasite and the most basic form of the Flood and uses neither bacteria nor viruses. When an Infection form first attacks a host it bores a needle-like appendage into one of the main neural pathways(i.e. the backbone/spinal cord or neck) and releases a flood of chemicals that block all cognitive control of the body and all functions of the hosts nerves(a.k.a. no pain), or it blocks the function of the cerebrum and not the cerebellum. It then moves itself into the chest cavity and begins the reconstruction of the body by using the hosts energy and calcium supplies to produce new and modify existing muscle cells into Flood supermassive muscle cells. Mind you the body still needs its basic functions to survive, so it still has to breath and pump blood, but not eat. It is still unknown what the Flood's energy source is. But, as long as the cerebrum has not decomposed or deoxygenated(the person died) the parasite has full access to the hosts memories and skills, so if the person was good at poetry or painting the Flood combat form could possibly be as well if the need for such skills may arise. Also, the Flood parasite, to put it simply only cares about survival and strength, that is why the skin has begun to decompose in the cases of most hosts.

As a side note, the Flood are capable of being independent but are much more effective under the control of a hive mind of sorts, which they create by dragging unused(uninfected) bodies together to join with one that is infected which meld into a single mass and inteligence. This is all incredibly similar to the description of the Planetmind/spores/fungus of the game Alpha Centauri if any of you have heard of it.

Anyway, hope this helps in some way or clears some things up, or makes you horribly confused Razz

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Right, however, the way it changes the host body may be with virii once it gets to a certain point, so as to rewrite the genes to reproduce the Flood way.

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nope, it's all biochemical. This is all from canon somewhere but for the life of me I can't remember where.

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rush wrote:
MariusDarkwolf wrote:
assman665 wrote:
Phoenix1337 wrote:
MariusDarkwolf wrote:
Come on, honestly, what does the average layperson know about the differences between viral and bacterial infections? Slightly less than nothing. Which isn't to say that this is nessacarly the case, just saying that unless there's a virologist or bacterialogist in on this, theres gonna be a 'healthy' dose of a lack of knowlege

Still got the love though
Razz


And thats why we have drug-resistant super-bacteria that will wipe us out. Which sucks, cuz I was really hoping for Zombies. I have my Zombie plan and everything.


Same here, I got my 6 moldy peanut butter sandwiches stapled to the back of my bookcase, and scrambled eggs under my bed...


Come on Ethan you know you're supposed to hide the eggs under Lucus's bed Laughing
I'm hoping for the Zombpocolypse too, I've got two weeks of food stored in my attic.


Everytime I go to Wal-Mart, I try to find a new way to get to the roof (garden center=best route)... just in case. I wonder if there will be Wal-Marts in 2552....



I think they're called Zombie-Marts, actually. Just aisles and aisles of braaaaaiiinnsssssss.

(this should really be moved into a humor thread, hahaha.)

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lol yeah

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lol wacky

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"343 GUILTY SPARK:

You can see how the body's been transformed by the genetic restructuring of the Flood infection. The small creatures carry spores that cause a host to mutate. The mutated host then produces spores that can pass the Flood to others. It is insidious and elegant. As long as any hosts remain, the Flood is virulent."

So, the mutation system is bacterial? but the flood aren't?

This is complicated. Why couldn't the forerunners use bombs like the rest of us?

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Phoenix1337 wrote:
"343 GUILTY SPARK:

You can see how the body's been transformed by the genetic restructuring of the Flood infection. The small creatures carry spores that cause a host to mutate. The mutated host then produces spores that can pass the Flood to others. It is insidious and elegant. As long as any hosts remain, the Flood is virulent."

So, the mutation system is bacterial? but the flood aren't?

This is complicated. Why couldn't the forerunners use bombs like the rest of us?


Phoenix where'd you find this? I'd like to cross ref it myself, see if there's anything else interesting.

BTW the way that we currently use to restructure something is with a virus as a carrier, so my theory may be correct.

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MariusDarkwolf wrote:
Phoenix1337 wrote:
"343 GUILTY SPARK:

You can see how the body's been transformed by the genetic restructuring of the Flood infection. The small creatures carry spores that cause a host to mutate. The mutated host then produces spores that can pass the Flood to others. It is insidious and elegant. As long as any hosts remain, the Flood is virulent."

So, the mutation system is bacterial? but the flood aren't?

This is complicated. Why couldn't the forerunners use bombs like the rest of us?


Phoenix where'd you find this? I'd like to cross ref it myself, see if there's anything else interesting.

BTW the way that we currently use to restructure something is with a virus as a carrier, so my theory may be correct.


http://halosm.bungie.org/story/level_transcripts/lv07_library.html

Unfortunately viral agents don't produce spores, so using a retro-virus to alter the hosts DNA doesn't seem to be what they're talking about. Mind you, I'm assuming they're talking about endospores, otherwise GS is saying the mutation system is fungal, which is a level of wierdness my alcohol addled mind is unable to deal with right now.

...Wow, look at that... it kinda looked like I knew what I was talking about there. Now will someone who understands biology and isn't drunk please explain to me what the hell I just said?

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possibly a fungal bacterium that decomposes matter at an incredible rate, causing a shock mutation in the genes and doesnt stop and continues when physical contact is made with another organism.

just like when your food or coffee when left out grows mold and fungus from the food spoiling, except and 100x the speed.

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