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AngriBuddhist
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I agree with you. They are working together. I just don't think that "phone group" likes it or knows what the Center is really up to.
Really though, the way this "ARG" is going I doubt that what we think or do is really going to matter. Has there even been a puzzle?
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:51 am
rush
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I think, if it were to be taken literally, the sites are actual physical flood sites. The unpredictable seasons could be rainy seasons and hurricane seasons. However, I don't see how there could possibly be 3 or 4 thousand physical flood sites. We need to find out what the "few exceptions" are exceptions from.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:14 am
MariusDarkwolf
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Maybe they're sites that the Center handles personally. You know kinda like, a normal site would be "Okay we've checked it, its good, have at it" and an exception site may be "Um you guys don't want to handle this one, we've got it covered." Type of thing.
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:17 am
rush
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texrangr35 wrote:
shadeedge wrote:
First post here, so please be gentle....
I would say the most interesting thing is that they're selling this stuff. Which suggests....they don't need it anymore. They've found what they were looking for?
Good point. If FCC was a Men in Black type of organization (the obvious reason that theory arose is all of the skullduggery and info-hiding that appears to be going on in the recordings) then why would they be selling these things? Even if they had found what they were looking for and they no longer needed them, would they risk going public just to raise a little bit of cash?
I personally am hoping that FCC and SotA are adverse, and we have to pick a side, but this may be a sign that it's not going that way.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:28 am
AngriBuddhist
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rush wrote:
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However, I don't see how there could possibly be 3 or 4 thousand physical flood sites. We need to find out what the "few exceptions" are exceptions from.
If it's physical location or websites-
Quote:
"With a few exceptions: Sites 34, 4, 107, and 37. For some reason the center usually goes in before we do. By the time we have the site clean, they move on to more pressing needs. After all, we've had some extremely unpredictable seasons lately.
This statement gives us the names of 4 sites. I think the exception is that they are not being "cleaned" yet. "Clean" doesn't neccessarily mean "uncontaminated". It could mean "the evidence is gone". I'm thinking that whether they are physical sites or not, 4 is a good number of places to investigate.
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:07 am
SplinterCellMGS
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just to let you guys know, there is a new piece of the conversation added. this time it is part 1 from bill and a lady that is with him. call the number, you'll hear it there.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:47 am
BoonIsha
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Re: [PUZZLE] Bill Say what?
Quote:
Female British Voice: [/b]"Welcome to the Strema Conferencing Center. Please enter your pin followed by the [cut off, presumably "pound key]
{4 Touch Tones}
Password accepted. Now accessing archive number 16180. Participant One [in second call "Two"]."
Man 1: "isn't necessary, and neither is the doc download."
Man 2: "I agree. This isn't going to be a public resource. Uhh, pass on the document number so I can delete it."
Bill : So where does that put us in terms of the numbers then
Man 1: "There's no way to tell yet. Jim's looking into the records to see how many closed sites there are, but as for active clean-up, somewhere around 3-4,000.
Female 1: Roughly
Man 1: Here it is, uh, hold on, 402-K-07-002, and in terms of numbers, most of these are past the PPE Stage."
Female 1 : And out of that 4000 or so we are expecting to close shop on the bulk by the end of the month.
Man 2: "With a few exceptions: Sites 34..."
***Conversation break here***
Man 2: "Sites 4, 107, and 37. For some reason the center usually goes in before we do, that's been my experience.
Man 1: By the time we have the site clean, they move on to more pressing needs. After all, we've had some extremely unpredictable seasons lately.
Unknown Dialog : (05 sec)
Man 2: No need Their rep is available to us any time we need her
Unknown Dialog :(03 sec)
Man 1: On everything we still need to look into.
Unknown Dialog :(03 sec)
Man 2: We're working on it. For the moment we're simply hiding the data behind a false menu item
Man 1: Security will be updated before the next system approaches
Unknown Dialog : (14 sec)
Man 2: Okay, great. Bye Bill
Man 1: Thanks.
That's how I read this conversation. Anyone have a different take?
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:56 am
shadeedge
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Makes sense to me. It loooks like Female 1 is in the same position as the two Men.
I'd guess in fact that Female 1 is the "Participant 1" mentioned at the beginning. So the second conversation might involve someone else.
Now we know there may be more people involved, that 14 seconds at the end could be a whole little conversation. That's probably where the next big clue lies.
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:00 am
thebruce
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Man 1 and 2 are Participants 1 and 2. Bill and the female are participants 3 and 4. When the operator says "participant 3" you can hear 4 overlaid as well... So it's not necessarily Bill that's recording. I'm guessing somehow we're hearing auto-archived recordings from conference archive #16180.
AND, I think there are four overlaid PIN #'s, not one for each... if each participant has their own pin #, that makes sense. The new 4# PIN doesn't sound like the same pin overlaid twice. I think there are 4 pins, and really, knowing them won't help us at all, because we can't access the conferencing service anyway.
Perhaps the pins may be useful in the future, but right now, all we've got are 3 archived conference recordings, 2 parts to a conversation involving 4 people.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:32 am
rush
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eccramer wrote:
whitekeyes wrote:
He [Bill] seems to be the big cheese.
Bill....
Gates?
Hate to get OT, but Bill's voice does sound like that of a certain Microsoft billionaire.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:20 pm
LordC
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Thoughts on the conversations I am thinking the Center going in first reference points to the PPE stage. The Center usually goes in (to perform the PPE) before we do. Then they are typically both there, and the Center finishes first, then leaves.
I'm thinking the four exception sites would be the particularly pesky sites And may be refering to SOTA, HBO or others. These will be the sites that persist for a while longer.
Still trying to figure out this next system approaching as well as seasons.
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:50 pm
rush
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From what I can gather (summarizing from others and myself):
Man 1: Located where the servers or files are.
>He retrieves the EPA doc.
Man 2: Located where the central HQ is.
>He hides the data behind the menu item and doesn't seem to go out on site.
Bill: Perhaps on-site. Not much evidence.
Jen: Could be in the same location as Man 1.
>She is looking for the records.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:07 pm
thebruce
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Ok Rush, I'll give you Jennifer, but the guy's saying 2 syllablesfor the name, so while it might not be Jamie, I'm certain it's not Jen... but I'll give you 'Jenny' for now just because it's really not that important
If it is, we'll be getting the name elsewhere soon, I'm sure.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:27 pm
rush
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Take this how you want:
http://www.boyhowdypro.com/files/jen.mp3
and
http://www.boyhowdypro.com/files/streama.mp3
for that matter. I just used audacity to slow it down, normalize it, and bump it up an octave or two.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:34 pm
shadeedge
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In your second linky it sounds as if there's a bit before the "stream" - maybe "Estrema"? Astreama? Something like that.
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:39 pm
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